WordPress.com Forums » Topic: Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical) http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical WordPress.com Forums » Topic: Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical) en Wed, 22 May 2013 15:01:40 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.1-alpha-2539 raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-441178 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:13:01 +0000 raincoaster 441178@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Will do and report back.

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-440624 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:35:44 +0000 devblog 440624@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/

the exact same size, with a slightly different name and POOF! they work suddenly.

What name did your images have? I mean, what did you originally named them and what is the slightly changed name? Maybe there's something in the name that the software doesn't like? Maybe you can test this by uploading an image with a "bad" name and then, without deleting it, upload one with a "good" name to see if you get the same results.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-440549 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:47:36 +0000 raincoaster 440549@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Very odd: on some old photos, they're busting out on the right-hand side and I delete them, upload the exact same image, the exact same size, with a slightly different name and POOF! they work suddenly. It's very peculiar.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429605 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:31:08 +0000 raincoaster 429605@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Okay, I will pass it along.

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429598 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:22:45 +0000 devblog 429598@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/

I'm using Monotone on that blog

Okay. My suggestion still stands, though, because he may be able to shed some light and tell if this is actually a bug or a server thing. For instance, if you upload your Kermit picture to your wp.com hosted blog, and add the qs to the end of the image, for instance ?w=400, the width of the image will get resized to 400px even though its actual width is 650, whereas if you do this on a self-hosted blog, the qs won't affect the image whatsoever....

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429570 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:52:09 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429570@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Ok thanks!

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429565 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:41:12 +0000 raincoaster 429565@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ You mean the same image? I inserted it into my old post and it centered and has borders on each side.

The new post is identical:
http://lolebrity.net/2001/02/05/test-post/

[caption id="" align="alignnone" width="500" caption="Hugh Jackman roller man"]<img alt="Hugh Jackman roller man" src="http://wpbtips.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/hugh-jackman-rolls-wit-it-ds.jpg" title="Hugh Jackman roller man" width="500" height="958" />[/caption]

Interesting: the other post, the real one, has stripped out caption code and width and height codes, but there is no difference at all in what's displayed.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429563 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:35:27 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429563@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ "Is your test blog hosted at Wp.com? Because that version of Lolebrity is not." Yes, mine is a wp.com one, and that explains it, I guess...

There may be yet another quirk, so could you please do me a favor: publish a new post with the copy I gave you and see if the result will be the same.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429559 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:26:12 +0000 raincoaster 429559@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Works beautifully, thanks! So I'll try resizing via picnik again for tomorrow.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429558 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:24:31 +0000 raincoaster 429558@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Is your test blog hosted at Wp.com? Because that version of Lolebrity is not. I never had that issue when the blog was hosted here.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429556 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:20:38 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429556@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ No, don't remove or add any part of the code and don't drag: in Monotone and Duotone no size option has any effect. Grab this (500px wide):

http://wpbtips.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/hugh-jackman-rolls-wit-it-ds.jpg

By the way, this busting out is something I haven't ever been able to reproduce in my tests blog.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429532 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:38:41 +0000 raincoaster 429532@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Ugh, I can't seem to get this image to resize at ALL.

http://lolebrity.net/2010/02/05/liquid-link-love/

I took out all the class code from the image (since it was "full size") and added the ?w=550 and nada, nothing happened. And then I just went to the visual editor and dragged the corners and nada.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429498 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:59:01 +0000 raincoaster 429498@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Please don't post the same question THREE TIMES.

]]> 0nstore on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429487 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:22:17 +0000 0nstore 429487@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Hi all.
Please Help me...

http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/why-i-dont-have-wp-contenthemes-directory-t_t?replies=1

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429381 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:16:22 +0000 raincoaster 429381@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I'm using Monotone on that blog, because if I use Duotone, the entire thing goes haywire and none of the images display. The Duotone theme is essentially unusable on external blogs without major, major overhaul.

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429379 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:11:15 +0000 devblog 429379@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I think it's a bug in the downloaded version of duotone. The width passed in the querystring tells the theme to resize the image to 560px (that's why the use of GD).

I uploaded a photo, which is 683px wide, to one of my wp.com hosted blogs and duotone resized it to 560... so yeah, the logic the programmer used was that if an image's height was greater than its width, use 560, else use 840... and if that's not working on your blog, it's possible because of a bug.

You might want to email the creator and bring this to his attention, he might have a better idea of why that's happening and help you as he did the OP.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429373 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:58:21 +0000 raincoaster 429373@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I got a new one up. Didn't resize it at all, it's been 500 px all the way through. I'll use picnik to resize another one later tonight and test.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429369 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:42:03 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429369@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @rain: That's the whole point of the forum, isn't it?

(And once you publish some new posts, please let me know if my suggestion is confirmed.)

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429368 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:33:22 +0000 raincoaster 429368@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ AHA! Now I don't feel so guilty about diverting this into a discussion of an independently-hosted blog. That is useful to EVERYONE.

Much, much appreciated, guys.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429362 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:13:18 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429362@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I thought I'd better run a few more tests before sending the ticket, and it turns out I hadn'd pinned it down after all... So here's what happens (in both Monotone and Duotone): 840 is the limit for landscape-shaped images only; for square or portrait-shaped ones it's 560!

So, for a decent border along the sides, my suggestion is resize images (before uploading) to no wider than 800px if landscape-shaped, to no wider than 520px if square or portrait-shaped.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429134 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:05:57 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429134@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ PS I'll send a ticket re this.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical/page/2#post-429133 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:04:57 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429133@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @rain: I think I pinned it down (and Picnik is probably innocent).

Like Monotone, selecting size option, changing width, etc., have no effect. The theme bg is confined to 840px wide, so above that you get downsizing and no color along the sides. If the image is less than but close to 840, you only get two very narrow strips of course, so my original 800px suggestion is a good limit. So what's the problem? Some smart guy set it so that you don't get the sides if the width or the height of the uploadeed file is above 840!

For the sake of others who might read this, I'm also reminding that for a centered image you need to set the alignment to None before inserting.

]]> nickjyc on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-429024 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:18:43 +0000 nickjyc 429024@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Ok, I just got word from Noel (the designer of Duotone) - apparently my issue was that it was a bug in private blogs, so Noel kindly fixed the bug for me. Now I'm curious as to see what the maximum width for an image would be without triggering the horizontal layout. I'm going to experiment.

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-429012 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:41:05 +0000 devblog 429012@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/

The latest complication is that a width qs now shows up in the source code even when you delete it in the html editor

Yeah, that's why I suggested to "force" the width to 650 in the qs... I don't know if she tried that, though.

I too thought that probably the photo would contain some info that it would be taken by the software, but when I downloaded the image the basic info reflected its correct width: 650px. So I don't understand what's the deal.

Deleting the image gave rain those nasty warnings, that means the theme coudln't parse the image - which is kind of weird too - to get its dimensions...

Strange theme this is...

When I finish the project I'm working on, I'll download it and check under the hood to see what's going on... Now, I'm curious.

]]> panaghiotisadam on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-429008 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:22:58 +0000 panaghiotisadam 429008@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @rain: I resized an image in Picnik, uploaded and inserted it to my test blog (with Duotone on), no complication whatsoever. But then again, the image was from my scanner/computer; maybe the ones you've used include some info that isn't wiped out by Picnik like it would be if edited in Photoshop. Could you give me the link to where you got the Kermit pic from?

Another thing: I noticed in the source code of your pages that the insertion option wasn't always the same - one of the images was "large", another one "fullsize" and so on. In Monotone these have no effect; maybe it's not the same with Duotone, so I'll have to experiment and see if these make any difference.

@devblog: see here for the background to the story (with which I suppose you're familiar). The latest complication is that a width qs now shows up in the source code even when you delete it in the html editor (except in flexible-width themes). What's worse, the number isn't the actual width of the inserted image but the supposedly maximum for the theme you're using (which again is often wrong, as I've shown in this post).

I sent a ticket re this two weeks ago, and got this reply:

"This is intentional. If there is a problem with image quality, please send us a copy of the original images as an attachment and also send us the URL where you are using the image on your site."

I sent them a link to a demonstration post I prepared, sent them the image, gave them extra details too, - and I'm still waiting for a reply. Starsquid also sent a ticket a on this couple of days after me, asked about it in the forum yesterday, and was told by staff that this query is on queue...

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-428949 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:40:36 +0000 raincoaster 428949@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Thanks. I found the best guide to fixing it, and want to take a shot at it myself. Let me run my tweaks by you before you go to that work.

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/346122
http://www.stilemosso.it/2010/01/duotone-theme-for-wordpress-on-self-hosted-instances/

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-428932 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:25:59 +0000 devblog 428932@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Sure thing. Also, as soon as I finish this project I'm working on, I'll download your theme and look under the hood to see if it's something I can fix, or find a way around the problem without you having to do anything to the .php files.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-428914 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:25:23 +0000 raincoaster 428914@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Thanks. I'm going to take next weekend and learn to hack the Duotone theme, which I like better, so it works on an external blog. Apparently it takes SOME doing! If I kill the blog, rest assured I have your email and will come screaming for help.

]]> devblog on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-428912 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:22:03 +0000 devblog 428912@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ boy, there's some stuff going on with that theme... I wonder why it's using GD, it seems it's creating images on request... just a guess.

I went through your blog and those pages were the images overflow, have the same "?w=560" qs... again, it might be a bug in the theme.

To me, it seems like a bug... you might want to contact the author and let him know about this.

Sorry I couldn't be of much help.

]]> raincoaster on "Duotone - prevent activation of "horizontal" layout (always default to vertical)" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/duotone-prevent-activation-of-horizontal-layout-always-default-to-vertical#post-428894 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:57:02 +0000 raincoaster 428894@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Isn't it usually me who lectures people about hijacking threads? Oh well. Crankiness has its privileges, I guess.

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