WordPress.com Forums » Topic: How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers? http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers WordPress.com Forums » Topic: How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers? en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:36:36 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.1-alpha-2539 countrycinderella on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-517613 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:16:12 +0000 countrycinderella 517613@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I have really enjoyed reading this off-topic thread. I was impressed with all the information that everyone has shared.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-517400 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:10:41 +0000 psychmatters 517400@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I've had about 100 new ideas since starting this thread thanks to this great community. We can speculate but do we really know how blogging will change the way things are done -- things like advertising.

If you read my recent post you'll see I've been researching the way the internet changes human behavior...fascinating stuff.

]]> sl1k on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-513103 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:33:37 +0000 sl1k 513103@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @sawvell

Please re-frame from posting link signatures in the WP.com forums...

]]> raincoaster on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-512715 Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:44:31 +0000 raincoaster 512715@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Perhaps it's best not to leave a link signature in a forum that is completely free of them. It looks particularly spammy.

]]> sawvell on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511569 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:58:31 +0000 sawvell 511569@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ It's a great way to promote/share ideas. I'm reading all day long, whether it be blogs, books, newspapers, etc. I love to read and share my ideas. I like to review other bloggers posts and leave my own 2 cents!

See a few examples!

link sig removed by Slik

]]> lettershometoyou on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511563 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:46:02 +0000 lettershometoyou 511563@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Wow, an off-topic thread that's really worth reading! Is there a way to make this a sticky? There is some really good info here.

]]> pornstarbabylon on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511397 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:17:20 +0000 pornstarbabylon 511397@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ The future of blogging? It's what you yourself make of it. The core of blogging will always be a person, their blog, and whatever nonsense they write. There will always be the newest themes I always find something wrong with. Or the newest invention they claim will make blogging easier. Though it usually screws up everything when most people want it back to the way it was. Think Myspace four years ago. That's how it should have stayed instead of version THREE being forced on us by the end of the year! I still have version ONE!!!!

*cough*

But blogging is blogging and will stay the same. I recently read an article though saying how blogging has gone down due to Twitter and Facebook. People are idiots if they gave up blogging for Twitter considering the 140 character limit. That's not blogging. That's instant messaging. Unless you only started a blog to waste time and were never serious with it. And Facebook will burn in the pit of hell where it belongs!!! can you tell I'm still bitter that they took my account away??

]]> maidiebike on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511305 Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:58:50 +0000 maidiebike 511305@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Too late --my typos, etc.

]]> maidiebike on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511304 Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:57:23 +0000 maidiebike 511304@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Canadian copyright law also is similar to U.S. --as soon as a person creates their own words for anyone to read, it's their own. And particularily with your name as the author attached directly to the article for the world to see. The author owns it. I believe in Canadian law, there maybe a 50 yrs. initial limit in terms of that ownership. I haven't read the latest changes to law.

I merely interpret poppy's comments as simply a warning that blogging just simply makes an author's work more prone to plagarism since it's out on the open Internet.

Brad- Perhaps in the simplest, basic way that blogging can assist professional journalists and writers who seriously write outside of their blogs to earn money, is at the very least, blogging showcases the capabilities of the writer and range of topics that they can /do write on.

However it is a serious challenge for those formally trained and working as journalists and writers since there is turmoil and restructuring in the publishing industry on revenue generating formats and how writers are paid or the rates that publisher is willing to pay.

Thx for your compliments, Brad. I consider my writing as secondary skill (that always needs honing0 which has been parlayed within my jobs where like other folks in private and public sectors, a person engages in business and technical writing (not as exciting. Management reports, technical manuals, etc.), as well as writing for marketing and adult training.

]]> poppy8sd on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-511098 Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:24:27 +0000 poppy8sd 511098@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ ~psychmatters
Intellectual property rights:
if you read GOOGLE's TOS, all of it including 'fine' print,
then read GOOGLE--not WP--Google's AdSense TOS --all of it, and
then look at the lawsuits Google's gotten, followed by legal EXPERTS,
I might not look so "deranged"--name-calling SO, uh, helpful
especially without any Facts CONTRARY to LEGAL community's cites,
one may come to DIFFERENT conclusion about Rights.

I have several blogs on Google, each with AdSense --which I
removed from each after reading some transcripts and LEGAL
opinion on the cases.

You can just go with Opinion of someone who used to reply to
newbie questions late at night with cryptic answers, borderline
snark, that helped no one, but did get her Google juice --boosted
her presence on Google/to improve her ranking. No matter to me which.

WordPress believes
they don't compromise intellectual rights using: AdSense on blogs.
I have come to Different conclusion, from my homework. They,
raincoaster, you can believe --characterization --name-calling,
their opinion, whatever.

Entitled to own opinion, NOT entitled to their own FACTS.

You asked smart wise questions I thought worth answering.
No benefit to me whether Ignore/believe the 'heads up'
I was trying to give you. Believe whom, whatever you want.

Or could do your own homework.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-509981 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:58:19 +0000 psychmatters 509981@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Well, I'm formulating that plan. I'm trying to find out what new tools are available out in internet land. I've been busy the past decade creating a psychotherpy practice and helping people out of the pit of despair. Now I want a bigger web presence. I'm certainly not blogging competition.

]]> hewsut on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-509590 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:07:19 +0000 hewsut 509590@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Moving to off topic as this is not directly WordPress.com related.

]]> raincoaster on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-509493 Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:41:39 +0000 raincoaster 509493@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Also: ignore Poppy and pay very, very close attention to Bradthrasher. Read everything he posts at least twice, because that stuff is golden.

]]> raincoaster on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers/page/2#post-509492 Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:40:40 +0000 raincoaster 509492@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ 1) not and still have it attached to the blog it's attached to now. Change it under URL on your Profile page
2) uh...pretty much most of ours do. Check out http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com for a really optimized WP.com blog
3) I'm not answering that for less than $200 an hour, but I'm sure you'll find someone here nicer than me. The short answer is: longer forms rather than short ones.

I wouldn't worry about the future of blogging. If I were you I'd look at what I want out of it and strategize a plan to accomplish it. You don't need to CARE about the future of blogging unless you wish to become a professional blogger or software developer.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-509447 Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:04:50 +0000 psychmatters 509447@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I'm learning so much even though the technical part is a struggle for my right brained personality. Like, I still haven't managed to link my "practice" cite located at howtomakelemonade.wordpress to my psychmatters icon. Heck, I don't even know the termonology. But, thanks in part to raincoaster, I can see that every business owner should have a blog rather than a flat traditional website.

In terms of writing, it occurs to me that my former writing experience was in playwriting. Like bradthrasher, the versitility of blogging. I love the back and forth dialogue. I do know about psychology and that is an interesting topic for many folks so I'm giving it a go. I haven't learned any of the widgets and gizmoes but I'm trying.

I have three questions:

1) Can I attach another wordpress address to my psychmatters icon?
2) Does anyone know a good blog that utilizes many of the available features?
3) What do you see as the future of blogging.

Sorry if I'm breaking the rules and should put these in different threads. Let me know.

]]> bradthrasher on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508991 Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:19:38 +0000 bradthrasher 508991@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Yes and no maidiebike. Mainstream approval and branding is not the answer for all bloggers. Blogging works in part, because it is not a one size fits all platform.

You're probably way ahead of me on the learning curve. I'm still focused on the craft of blog writing and learning the software to be concerned about publishing opportunities or networking my stuff.

For example, my blog grew out of my posting on a mainstream media website. Over the course of a year -18 months, my alter ego, "backcheck" outgrew the confines of responding to the articles posted by the experienced professional journalists.

For the moment, independent blogging is right for me. At some future point, after I've honed my skills and found my voice, partnering or even employment in corporate media or an Alt News site might make sense.

Took a peak at your site, Third Wave Cycling. Wow. You are definitely ready for Architectural Digest and/or becoming a go to source for agencies like Urban Land Institute and urban planners. Congratulations.

]]> maidiebike on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508690 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:27:37 +0000 maidiebike 508690@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ brad thrasher: "Blogs can serve as an info filter like traditional journalism. Blogs can serve as an unfiltered deliverer of the same info"

I think for experienced journalists and writers, is to get published with bigger name online publications that also have a parallel/similar hard copy version plus also e-version that allows readers to post comments.

It's important to understand that established newspapers also sell their article access to information aggregators/database publishers who charge money for people to search and access their extensive research content databases.

]]> bradthrasher on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508653 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:35:20 +0000 bradthrasher 508653@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Just wanted to add 2 cents to the writing aspect of the numerous topics psychmatters has raised.

As someone who has written for print and broadcast media as well as technical papers to an audience of 3-4 people, I am finding blogging very different than other media.

Blogs offer the immediate interactivity of broadcast in a print format. This new media brings all other formats into one. Try showing a video in a hard copy newspaper.

Blogging, because all media formats can be incorporated, is very different from different every other writing.

I'm just a couple-3 weeks into my first blog and it feels as though an entire new world has opened. Links have replace footnotes in formal essays, one can be erudite, conventional or colloquial all in the same sentence.

Blogs can serve as an info filter like traditional journalism. Blogs can serve as an unfiltered deliverer of the same info.

It's all up to the blogger. Isn't that a liberating idea. Oh man I'm having fun. Hope you are too.

I don't know if blogs offer us the best of all worlds or not. It's obvious blogs offer us some of all communication formats.

The basic rules of good writing apply. Write for your audience and advance the story with every line.

In terms of interactivity, the vast majority of your audience will never post on your blog. Just like the vast majority of readers never a write a letter to the editor. The vast majority of listeners never call in to a radio show.

What the vast majority of your audience will do is enjoy how you respond to those who interact.

I'm definitely at the beginning of the learning curve. Oh man, it sure is fun.

]]> thesacredpath on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508601 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:50:33 +0000 thesacredpath 508601@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @rebekah, you're welcome, and take a look at what two members of staff said in this other thread.

http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/if-you-dont-pay-wordpress-to-remove-adverts-then-do-you-lose-all-legal-rights?replies=6

]]> rebekahstudio on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508600 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:42:30 +0000 rebekahstudio 508600@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ @the sacred path - so glad you clarified the rights issue. ;-)
Enjoying reading this informative thread.

]]> thesacredpath on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508593 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:03:52 +0000 thesacredpath 508593@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ B. Your intelectual property is yours, always and forever. WordPress get the rights to display it (otherwise they could not put it out on the web for you) but you are and forever will be the owner of your content, that is unless you were to put it into the public domain.

Copyright starts from the first word you put onto paper, automatically, even if you never publish it. That is US copyright law.

]]> raincoaster on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508588 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:46:00 +0000 raincoaster 508588@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Poppy, please don't spew harmful misinformation around the forums. You look deranged.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-508251 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:48:11 +0000 psychmatters 508251@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ What a great community here. I take away two really important concepts.

A) I've now got a new vision of a blog as a professional internet tool. I did need to recognize that! Great reframe -- psych term :)

B) I should be careful not to lose the right's to my written work. So if ads are on my blog then I've essentially sold the written materal to the advertisers or the host site? Something like that. Is that true?

Also, I believe in focus and will definately get the book suggested. I do some career counseling and I'm still referring to "What color is your parachute" I'm feeling outdated.

I'm focused on two things: writng and counseling. That's my life. Blogging interests me as a way of integrating those two worlds. With all this good feedback I'm beginning to see how this might happen. All ideas are welcomed and appreciated.

]]> poppy8sd on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507825 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:09:07 +0000 poppy8sd 507825@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ My $.05
1. "blogging" is no different from writing in a journal, at core, except one needs "tech" gizmos/know how in place of the pen
2. Learning to blog (--'reading WP for dummies') --sounds like
isn't the issue, for you, Focus is
3. this & the following are interchangeable --which to do first:
Read up on advertising (pull up from e.g., Google) before you
go much farther.

You NEED to know: if you choose to make money from writing by, for example, putting Google ads on SELF-hosted blog, or DON'T Pay WP to keep ads OFF
the dot COM blog:
Author looses intellectual property rights to their OWN
material --and Forever.

WP: either Doesn't FULLY GET THAT, or Does and doesn't care/wants
to avoid, evade topic DETAILS --NOT spelled out in TOS. You MUST KNOW.
You way DON'T want THAT to happen. --(Simplified) Among other
things:
You would lose important edge/claim for 'Cease & Desist' for anyone
who swiped your work --without giving proper credit (it Will happen).
Courts are Starting to 'catch up' --but you don't want to loose future
before you even begin.

4. May seem whacko advice, to give a therapist, sorry, but you
have numerous ideas -goals, unclear which to pursue, so I suggest
the FINEST book (--maybe: ever written on the subject) I know of
to sort out:
"Zen and the Art of Making a Living"
you want: 1993 version
paperback only
--find 2nd-hand book stores; Amazon
Use tissue paper over each page to answer the questions
(--so you can use it again, some day)
Superb book (I met the author, he's a genius, spent
years in his field)

When you've finished the book: You will know more about you than
you thought possible; you will know EXACTLY what you want to do
Next-- with your life, among other things, How to pursue.

The "blogging" stuff is distant second to Focus.

For all the unfamiliar: just Bookmark an on-line tech dictionary
or two -or put the term in a search window -or look up in Wikipedia
(You should probably Bookmark this whole thread, to look up
things easily, as you get farther along)

]]> auxclass on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507824 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:06:36 +0000 auxclass 507824@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ OK - get rid of the labels!! Don't use the term "blog"

What we are talking about here is the software to drive a web site. My main site (not on WordPress.COM) uses WordPress software to drive a site on boating safety. The Posts are a series articles related to boating safety, there is the question of the "look and feel." WordPress software drives many business sites - called Content Management Systems (CMS) and they would probably punch you in the nose if you called their company site a "blog"

The part you want to think about is what do you want to do with a site and how do you want it to look.

WordPress software and especially WordPress.COM makes it very easy to update and add content to your site. Traditional "regular websites" done in html are a lot of work. I don't think you want to be a html guru nor spend a ton of money getting them designed.

My guess is that you want to have a nice looking site, easy to maintain, easy to add new content to, so you can spend your time on your practice, the articles are a way to help your practice and maybe make a few bucks, WordPress.COM can do that without breaking a sweat. The best think I did with my main site was to junk the html site and make the whole site WordPress driven.

Think "what do I really want to do with a web site" then will WordPress.COM help me reach my goals easiest.

Remember WordPress.COM is just a TOOL to do something, not an end in itself.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507803 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:21:23 +0000 psychmatters 507803@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Does it sound like a blog is what I need rather than a forum or a regular website?

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507801 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:20:14 +0000 psychmatters 507801@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ good point!

]]> thesacredpath on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507738 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:30:50 +0000 thesacredpath 507738@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ With a blog, considering some might put some personal information into comments, it would probably be best to have comment moderation turned on so that you can review them before they go live on the site.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507737 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:27:41 +0000 psychmatters 507737@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ Also thanks to auxclass for this:

Think about the blog also as a way to build traffic to your practice. Public speaking?, workshops for companies? Maybe get the others in the office to contribute a few short articles in the area they specialize in.

That is part of what I want to do and my collegues are very interested.

]]> psychmatters on "How are blogs financially helpful to creative writers?" http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-are-blogs-financially-helpful-to-creative-writers#post-507735 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:16:11 +0000 psychmatters 507735@http://en.forums.wordpress.com/ I'm not sure. Can I be stupid enough to ask the difference between a blog and a forum? I'm just formulating this idea and you've been very helpful. I don't want an "on the record" back and forth with clients. There would be privacy and liability issues. I wouldn't mind if they responded to the daily (or weekly) material. But I would want an option for sessions from a licensed provider.

Maybe I would direct them to my counseling website. I've had it for 10years and it has a great google rating. I feel like all the pieces of the puzzle are out there and I don't know how to put them together. I'm reading "wordpress for dummies" as fast as I can.

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