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matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:22:15 +0000

@ Matt, Re- print please contact me if you are still interested. Your 'deputy' doesn't seem to understand what I need to know. I have asked twice. I need to communicate with YOU. Wouldn't like you to think I was ignoring your request...but if you have changed your mind, that is fine too. Julia

timethief on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

timethief — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:39:06 +0000

Go to the sidebar in this thread and locate "Unsubscribe from Topic" when you click it you will be unsubscribed.

aardvarkart on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

aardvarkart — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:33:33 +0000

To unsubscribe to this thread it says log in and click on unsubscribe at the top of the page, err except there is no 'unsubscribe' at the top of the page!!
So how do I stop this barrage of emails regarding this topic?
It's beginning to drive me nuts!!

sbourdin on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

sbourdin — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:50:25 +0000

This all makes me think that Facebook's carousel is not that bad after all:
white background and there is the description area just underneath where you can add links, and it includes all the social media links to share, like, comment, etc. And it also gives a count of the photo, i.e. 9/10. A good idea for large photo galleries. I never thought about it before, but so far I prefer it to the WP version. However, I understand WP will be making improvements.

Like many have stated, I too prefer the white background. The problem with the FB version though is not being able to enlarge the photo. But I like that it has the photo description while viewing photos in the carousel. This is what I regret the most with the new WP version. I hope that this is a priority when they tweak the carousel.

aardvarkart on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

aardvarkart — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 20:20:33 +0000

How do I get out of this thread?
Do I just uncheck?
OK I'll try.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:05:38 +0000

(Replied in my blog.)

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:51:07 +0000

Well, done that...checked it myself...alive though it is, it takes one to the gravatar page and not to the blog! Aaaargh. Not sure how to open a new subject on your blog so just added it to the first subject I came across...hope that is easy to recover for you.
Mind you, I didn't check myself how to get back to it...typical!

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:42:31 +0000

Yes...just checked...there is a slash after com it seemed to add that also when I re-entered it first time...but it seems to be automatic. Ok I'll post a comment.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:12:39 +0000

That's the right dashboard page, but we fellow bloggers cannot access it - only staff can. Are you sure you're seeing http://juliamatcham.wordpress.com in the Website field (near the bottom), not just the Primary Blog pulldown? If so, try posting a comment in my blog so we can check: the forum sometimes plays tricks with the username link.

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:57:47 +0000

http://juliamatcham.wordpress.com/wp-admin/users.php?page=grofiles-user-settings
Can't see anything I have missed. J

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:53:13 +0000

Thanks Panos, the url was already there! I did paste it in again and save changes but doesn't seem to have changed anything. Maybe it takes time.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 02:37:47 +0000

@Julia: To make your username link to your blog, you go to Users > Personal Settings, scroll down to Account Details, paste blog URL in the Website field, click Save Changes.

Re "reading" arguments: As I said to Jen, I wasn't talking about readability in general, I was only talking about exposing your eyes to unnecessary brightness. Readability and eye fatigue depend on lots of other things as well: contrast between text and bg, font size and style, alternating between very different types of documents, amount and direction of surrounding light, type of monitor...

@jwane: First, selecting full-width template applies to static pages only, but people put galleries in posts as well. Second, the disadvantage you're describing happens in some themes only: other themes don't display the sidebar on attachment pages even if you haven't selected the full-width template.

PS (to all): Since Matt said they'll keep improving the carousel, then I can only repeat what I suggested they could have said from the start: be patient guys!

jwane on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

jwane — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:16:03 +0000

I think the carousel is a step in the right direction but obviously needs a little tweaking.

The problem with the attachment page format is that many theme authors don't include the selection of full width without sidebar, This means the photo will open in the main content area (500-700px wide) and will need to be clicked a second time to get the full size file page. Clumsy and outdated. The premium Traction theme is like this. Enterprise theme allows a photo to open in a full width (960px) attachment page with full navigation, sharing, and commenting which is as it should be.

Without the carousel, navigating through a gallery in Traction and many other themes is a three click dance per photo. Once to open the photo on a 620px wide attachment page, twice to open the photo full size on the file page, and the third click is to backtrack to the attachment page so you can then move forward in the gallery.
Again, clumsy and outdated.

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:24:11 +0000

OK I do TRY to help myself.
So go to my gravatar and it says link to ... and then faded blue ... JSON · XML · PHP · VCF · QR which I haven't the faintest idea about and then I click about and find something that might as well be a foreign language ...once again meaningless to an amateur. There seemed no way of doing anything positive.
http://en.gravatar.com/matcham1 ...is that meaningful? There doesn't seem to be a link address.
http://juliamatcham.wordpress.com

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:01:08 +0000

Panos, to answer your last question first...I always assumed it DID link. I had never tried my own, it didn't occur to me! I guess I will have to find out HOW. I daren't ask! It is obviously to my disadvantage that it doesn't link. Oh dear.
If I were being hypothetical about 'reading' arguments etc...I would suggest that as we humans are not nocturnal beasts...we were born to pick out dark things against lighter backgrounds (mostly) and our eyes are built for that process of selection. Cats etc are different. Apart from movement awareness they see very well in the dark.
I DO, a great deal of the time work on the computer in Photoshop in which the 'canvas' is surrounded by white and that seems natural to me. The idea of working against a black background apalls me. And I certainly think 'art' is best seen against a white background. I don't find myself suffering from more than shoulder ache from too long on the computer.
But I haven't read Wikipedia yet...tomorrow.
If I have got you confused (c) it is no doubt because (capital) I am!
I will try to absorb the issues tomorrow. Thanks anyway.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:30:24 +0000

@Jen:
I was careful to write "light" text, but I wasn't careful enough to write "write" instead of "right"! And sorry, I shouldn't have written "glare": I found it refers to reflected light while I was thinking of emitted light.

@Julia:
a) "does this come from a scientific source?" Does it have to? What hurts your eyes more, staring at bright sources of light or at dark sources? Why do you wear sun glasses?
Check the graph here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminosity_function
Then try working 10 hours a day with predominantly white files or webpages and 10 hours a day with predominantly black files or webpages and tell me if you'll feel a difference.
b) Of course you can "move on from one attachment page to the next". All themes have previous/next navigation links or thumbnails (you might be interested in that) on att. pages, and some of them (including the one you're using) jump to the next att. page when you click on the image itself. See here:
http://wpbtips.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/gallery-attachment-pages-nav-links-image-links/
c) You got me totally confused re image size, image quality, and att. page vs carousel view. Are you looking for best quality or not? Do you mean att. pages give you larger images than the carousel does or not? I checked one gallery page of yours, and the files are 450px wide so first they're not detailed enough, second carousel and att. page should give you exactly the same size and quality. Do you have other gallery pages with larger files? If so, link to such a page please. Also, what's your screen resolution?
By the way, why don't you link your username to your blog?

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:15:03 +0000

Just done that (wasn't sure if you had some magic way of contacting me there! nothing would surprise me) however clicked around a bit to see what is happening. And I am wrong about card sizes...they are shown smaller on the Caroussel.. And the display looks better because they are more surrounded by black. And, you

can move on from one attachment page to the next with untitled photos because they at least have numbers. Just the possibility is almost too small for people to notice.
I don't like the way the Caroussel lets the preceding and following foto/images impinge on the individual view, and the thumbnails glow through. I think it looks untidy...not 'clean'. Also in my own case my 'welcome' device interferes with the view; just bad luck I guess. But I can see that moving images on is speedier...which is of course a good thing. I just would prefer everything on a white background. However I will just have to follow the plot! Cheers.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:44:36 +0000

@Julia: Link to your blog please and I'll explain size and quality in more concrete terms. As for "the opportunity to present appropriate details", Matt finally said they'll do it once they've "figured out an elegant way to incorporate elements like comments, captions, and descriptions into the carousel experience".

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:29:25 +0000

@Jen: I was careful to right light text; the page you linked to is annoying because the text is pure white. Moreover, I was referring to the much reduced glare you get when the bg is dark; readability depends on other factors as well (for instance font family, font weight and letter spacing).

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:25:26 +0000

@ panos You know what an ignorant novice I am at all this...I thought as I wrote the last post that my images are probably NOT high enough resolution...I must have tried all sorts of different ways of uploading images ...from Picassa, from Photoshop, from emails sent to myself and the images saved as attachments! ... in the learning process, and that I produced something that didn't look obviously HAM was a matter of some satisfaction. (Thank you Matt!) But I thought when people talk about high resolution it was in the attachment pages that one could achieve that. I was never sure that I wasn't creating pages that would be too high resolution to load (something I had read about) so probably erred to much on the safe side. I am truly grateful for any education re all of this!
But now I read that WordPress automatically reduces file sizes? So does it not matter what sizes I upload?
Re 'reading'...I am too old to tell you about it, but I can only say that personally I dread white on black, or on colour. It looks smart but in any quantity I tend to give up.
Panos, you say 'a) Actually light text on dark bg is less tiresome for the eyes.' does this come from a scientific source?
As I see it, the attachment pages give you the opportunity of presenting work in appropriate sizes; a Xmas card design is not the same as a large print.
And gives the opportunity to present appropriate details above and below.
I hope that possibility will remain.

justjennifer on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

justjennifer — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:15:36 +0000

a) Actually light text on dark bg is less tiresome for the eyes.

http://vip.wordpress.com/blog/ I find reading this very hard on my eyes (and I'm in that near 60 age group talked about in the Codex), but as far as the Carousel, of course it's up to the UI/UX people.

matt on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matt — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:54:05 +0000

Oh gotcha .:)

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:12:52 +0000

Yes I know Matt, and that's what I tried to explain to Julia above: you get bigger images in the carousel view - except if you have a low resolution screen (in that case your attachment pages may fill the whole screen while the carousel images won't). But besides that, in my opinion the carousel looks a lot more professional anyway.

matt on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matt — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:57:06 +0000

panaghiotisadam: that's what I mean by high definition -- you get bigger images in the carousel view. Most photos uploaded to WP are megapixels big, but we show them usually at .7-.9 megapixels, at most, often smaller.

Also planned is iPad swipe support, which will be so fun to show people things on tablets.

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:49:45 +0000

@Julia:
a) Actually light text on dark bg is less tiresome for the eyes.
b) What exactly do attachment pages have to do with "high definition" images? In most themes attachment pages are fixed-width and close to or narrower than average screen resolution, while the carousel view is almost full screen no matter what the theme or the screen resolution. The higher your screen resolution, the narrower your attachment pages and the wider the carousel view.

matcham1 on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matcham1 — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:55:51 +0000

Matt, I am not sure if you are saying that you intend to replace the details that one can currently write in black on white on the attachment pages with something on the Caroussel which I guess would be white on black, which personally I detest as a way of reading anything important. The attachment pages work fine, particularly if you were to incorporate my suggestion above and made the fact that you can move on more obvious. It would provide a viable alternative to the Caroussel. This facility doesn't work with anything untitled, it seems to be a word-seeking arrow. I guess any of us putting NEXT on any unlabeled image might do the trick .
I can see from what you said earlier that you see speed of viewing as a priority. For a lot of us it isn't. We would rather people saw high definition images and reflected on items. If they are not interested at all they can see that from the thumbnails.
Please keep the attachment pages!

panaghiotisadam on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

panaghiotisadam — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:37:06 +0000

And it's not something we can do until we've figured out an elegant way to incorporate elements like comments, captions, and descriptions into the carousel experience.

Matt, couldn't you have said that from the start instead of belittling those who complain, pretending their requests aren't reasonable, and offering poor excuses "for effect"? Wouldn't it have been nicer if you or anyone from staff had simply said something like "thank you all for your input, be patient, this is a new feature, of course we'll keep improving it till becomes everything you had ever wished for and more"?

matt on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matt — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 05:21:39 +0000

I don't know, haven't thought of that yet. It's a bit of a bug that they work at all right now -- lots of things break on those pages like permalinks and next/prev links.

thesacredpath on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

thesacredpath — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 05:18:10 +0000

thesacredpath, of course they won't 404.

Matt, one has to ask these things since users here don't get an option.

I will assume (there's that word :)) this will also apply to the attachment pages for single images @justjennifer mentions above, since as we understand it attachment pages are entirely passé.

What will happen to the single images in sites that are now linked to attachment pages? Where will they go to when attachment pages go extinct?

matt on "How do I switch gallery out of carosel view"

matt — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:41:40 +0000

thesacredpath, of course they won't 404. We obviously care a lot about permanent links (née permalinks :)) and about making things friendly for search engines as well as people, as the uptick in image search referrals is indicative of. And it's not something we can do until we've figured out an elegant way to incorporate elements like comments, captions, and descriptions into the carousel experience. (I've seen the mockups for this, it looks really good, but will be a fair amount of work to make as fast as the carousel currently is.)