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commenting bugs

  1. motre
    Member

    @jennettemariepowell - suppose I wanted to impersonate you after finding out what your email address is. Without the requirement to prove who I am, I would be able to do just that. I could then make bad comments that misrepresent you, but do so in your name. I don't think you would like that. I certainly would not. The login requirement ... for emails known in the databases ... is a good idea to make sure no impersonations happen.

    Yes, having to login can be inconvenient. But that is how we prove who we are when we want to be ourselves online.

  2. thesacredpath
    Member

    The problems are:

    1. The entire thing is broken
    2. People who may have gotten an account a millennia ago that is tied to their main email they use, and have forgotten the username and password are toast. They cannot log in so they cannot comment.
    3. People with gravatar accounts (but without accounts here) are having no joy logging in to comment even though wordpress says they should be able to.
    4. When someone encounters the login requirement and logs in, their carefully crafted, thoughtful, but witty comment gets vaporized and they have to type it out again.

    It's broken.

    It will reduce the number of comments made on site, and on wordpress overall.

    Personally any site that requires me to sign up or log in to make comments gets none of my comments.

    Impersonation is an issue, but the problem is that any solution end up screwing the innocents instead of punishing the guilty. That sucks. Period.

  3. thesacredpath
    Member

    One other thing. This has been an issue since the first comment form appeared on the internet. This isn't new. Why now all of a sudden the "mission from God" to fix it? Because one of Google Big Wig Matt Cutts whined to AutoMATTic's Matt Mullenweg and time stopped in the entire universe to fix it for Cutts. If Cutts' hadn't whined, this might not have been implemented for years, if at all.

    The squeeky big wig gets the grease.

  4. listlessink
    Member

    @motre: In a sense, discouraging people from commenting fixes impersonation indeed, but I don't think that's a really good way. For many, in fact, this is akin to turning off comments as a fix for impersonation.

  5. jackscottbodrum
    Member

    I'm getting loads of negative feedback from regular readers about these commenting problems (on FB because they can no longer work out how to comment on my blog). Why can't WP simply reverse the recent update as it's clearly not working?

  6. thesacredpath
    Member

    WordPress nearly never rolls anything back and in my experience the more whining there is about it in the forums and such the more they dig in their heels. This is here to stay I'm afraid.

  7. anarkidiri
    Member

    Be patient while they're working on it.
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    I mean.... Be patient while they're working to post something like "We All Like to Log In" to make us sure that there will never an opt-out option for us except "take it or leave it". How sweet.

  8. shoreacres
    Member

    Jumping through hoops is one thing. Not knowing where the hoops are or which direction to jump is something else entirely.

    I just spent ten minutes trying to figure out how to leave a comment on another wordpress user's blog. I've commented there for years. I was logged in. No matter how many times or how many ways I tried to log in and leave that comment, I wasn't allowed to do so.

    I can't even explain to my readers how to leave a comment because I can't figure out how to do it myself.

    I never thought I'd say this, but the new WP comment "policy" makes Blogger look simple and intuitive.

    Comments are at the heart of my blog. I've spent years trying to develop a readership that is comfortable leaving comments. People come back to my posts to read the comments and discussion. If people can't comment, there's no reason to stay here.

    This is just sad.

  9. shambolicliving
    Member

    WP has obviously made unpopular changes in the past, however from what I can tell most of those changes impacted on us as administrators ie changing the placement of the stats etc and while we might have disagreed with them they made no difference to our readers. This change directly impacts on the success of our blog, and ultimately the success of wordpress.com itself. At the moment, from the comments in the forums, bloggers are dealing with reader complaints, what will be worse is when the complaints stop coming and the comments/page views start to drop. The majority of people won't complain they will simply stop reading our blogs.

  10. mathieu10
    Member

    It's a very frustrating change and I too have seen the impact on the amount of comments I now receive, which obviously has dropped. I run into issues myself as well as I'm always logged in when commenting on other sites, yet ran into the situation where it said I should log in after leaving my comment (and losing the comment). After going back the comment did appear on the page, very illogical.

    Really hope this will be rolled back as it has been very frustrating. As a blogger I get most of my joy out of the interaction with my readers. If they have a hard time leaving their thoughts it takes a lot of motivation away to keep writing. I always thought that the implementation of the commenting was way better than of Blogger and was one of the reasons to write on WordPress. Now I'm not so sure anymore.

  11. tandava108
    Member

    It's a very frustrating change and I too have seen the impact on the amount of comments I now receive, which obviously has dropped.

    I think that I am down to a fifth of the number of comments that I used to get. Also I had an email from someone who obviously thought that it was something that I had deliberately done to be unfriendly

  12. limecello
    Member

    Has anyone had the problem where people are already logged in and still can't leave comments on blogs?

    I tried to ask about it here as well: http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/certain-people-cant-comment-on-blog?replies=4#post-851362

    I'm not happy with the forcing people to log in, but even that issue aside - there are bugs? issues? with people trying to comment on my blog.

  13. ludusnaturae
    Member

    @alexsaja
    "We All Like to Log In" :lol:

  14. ludusnaturae
    Member

    I have registered an account in another platform, with a different email. But the problem is that this platform uses Polldaddy, a service powered by Automattic. Then, if I want to use this poll service there, will my email be registered forever in all Automattic services?

    Will "We All Like to Have Our Email Hijacked by Automattic Forever by Using Any of their Services"?

  15. acjhs
    Member

    Note for blog owners: you can uncheck the "Comment author must fill out name and e-mail" option on your Settings → Discussion page and that will allow anyone to leave a comment without needing to enter their email address. That option might be helpful to some of you in the short term.

    I did this and left a post at my blog suggesting that readers comment without their email address. However there are still bugs. My parents (who have never had any kind of wordpress, gravatar or other account) have left comments that have just been lost in the ether. They also have left comments that showed up as Anonymous. I have another regular reader whose comments sometimes show up as Anonymous and sometimes with her name. She is leaving her name each time without an email address.

    Add me to the list of bloggers who are frustrated by this change and really wish it could just go away.

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