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Edit and View are different -- why?

  1. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    We are very new to blogs, so forgive me if the answer is obvious.
    When I go to All Posts and click on the blog name or 'Edit' under the blog name, I see the blog in small format, but can then go to fullscreen for a better representation. If, however, I click on 'View' [just to the right of 'Edit'], the fullscreen view that I get is different -- some caption fonts are different, image placement is different and word wrap is different. Why aren't the 2 views identical?

    The blog I need help with is pennygblog.wordpress.com.

  2. I see that this is a very high-volume forum, so maybe my question above just slipped through. Or is there more information that I need to provide to get some assistance? Would really appreciate some help -- please?

  3. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    I see lots and lots of other questions being answered, but not this one. To me, as a very new WordPress user, it is a fundamental issue. So, am I not explaining the issue properly? Or what? I just cannot believe that other users would find the differences I've described as acceptable, so I suspect I must be doing something wrong? But what?
    Please help, because this is becoming so frustrating that we are on the point of deciding not to persevere with WordPress and to find something that is user-friendly.

  4. I don't have any idea how to answer this, because I'm not sure whether there's a question here other than "Why is WordPress.com built this way?" As the volunteers in the forum didn't design the software, we can't answer that.

  5. Mmmm ... not sure how I respond to that, either. If I'm in the Edit screen, then I can edit what I see there. But if I'm in the View screen, I can't edit. The 2 screens are often different, and it is the View screen that will be seen by others. So ... if I edit the Edit screen to make it how I want others to see it, how do I make sure the View screen (which is what others will see) is the same? Or, put another way, how do I edit the non-editable View screen to make it the same as the Edit screen, which is how I want the blog to be seen by others?
    I really can't believe that WordPress is built that way, so am I doing something wrong?
    I really appreciate all your help, raincoaster -- thanks!!

  6. You use the Preview and go back and forth tweaking it till it's right or, if you do what I do, you center all your images, make sure they're as wide as they can possibly be in the theme, and just don't worry about formatting.

    Recently the Edit page started taking into account the width of your blog's content column, which is a big improvement. If you require more granular control at the time of writing rather than using the Preview, you might want to use an offline blog editor like Windows Live Writer.

  7. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    You use the Preview and go back and forth tweaking it till it's right

    As far as I can see, View and Preview are both the same, ie, what's on the View/Preview screen is exactly what others will see when they look at the published blog. To tweak it, I need to go back to the Edit screen but therein is the problem -- the Edit screen looks different from the Preview screen, so how can I tweak it the former to get them both the same?
    If you look at our blog (password "firstblog"), you'll see that three paras about 3/4 of the way down are larger font size than other paras. In the Edit screen, those 3 paras have a smaller font size than the other paras. Why is the Preview screen different from the Edit screen, and how do I fix the problem?

  8. I looked at your blog. It is still empty. http://pennygblog.wordpress.com/

    There is no public password-protected post or page on that blog.

    The Edit and the View screens are different. They always have been different. This is how WordPress.com works. There is no setting you can adjust to change this.

  9. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    if you do what I do, you center all your images, make sure they're as wide as they can possibly be in the theme, and just don't worry about formatting

    The problem with that is that my wife (who is the author of the blog), does a lot of design work with, eg, Microsoft Publisher, and therefore likes to place images where she wants them and ensure the blog is visually attractive with appropriate formatting. I guess we thought WordPress would be more flexible than it appears to be. We also didn't know about WordPress.com and WordPress.org, and have just been reading up on the differences. Maybe we should switch to WordPress.org? Is WordPress.org more user friendly and more WYSIWYG?

  10. @lindsaydgraham

    …So, am I not explaining the issue properly?…

    We cannot tell what you are asking about because you have failed to provide links to where you are having the problem. Please type in a link to the site you have asked about in several threads here. LIke so:
    http://URL_OF_THE_POST_WITH_THE_PROBLEM_HERE

    A guess as vague as your question, without seeing your actual link, for this thread, I'd guess that you might need to investigate using an offline editor. That guess of mine means an assumption that you are more familiar and comfortable with using a program / software more like a word processor (Word, for example).
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/xml-rpc/
    Windows Live Writer is free and has been recommended many times on these forums.

  11. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    There is no public password-protected post or page on that blog.

    Really sorry. Should be OK now, as I don't think we'd published it properly.

    The Edit and the View screens are different. They always have been different. This is how WordPress.com works. There is no setting you can adjust to change this.

    Words fail me! How is it possible to get the View screen looking the way you want it to, if all editing has to be done in a screen (the Edit screen) that looks different from the View screen? What am I missing?
    What is the purpose of having an Edit screen and a View screen if they cannot be made to look the same?

  12. No, WordPress.ORG would not be a good move for folks who have no experience with coding, online problems, and dealing with what happens when something goes wrong and your site crashes.

    Yes you can advertise, and use plugins and all sorts of things, but it (wp.org) is in no way easier to use the wp.com and is not a what-you-see-is-what-you-get format.

  13. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    We cannot tell what you are asking about because you have failed to provide links to where you are having the problem. Please type in a link to the site you have asked about in several threads here. LIke so:
    http://URL_OF_THE_POST_WITH_THE_PROBLEM_HERE

    Sorry we didn't do that properly -- I think it's OK now with password "firstblog".
    For the rest of your reply (for which I thank you), see my most recent post responding to raincoaster. Yes, we are familiar with word processing and publishing software -- why is WordPress so very different?

  14. WordPress, in any of its varieties is an online medium. It is not the same as print media where one can set up how a printed page will look. Yes you can design a business card, a poster or flyer, a billboard, and you have control over how everything goes together.

    Online, things are different. People use various browsers: when I make a post that looks great on Firefox, it will look different (sometimes only a few pixels off) on Safari. And then there is poor poor IE in any version. Online people don't have a published greeting card they hold in hand. They may view your site on a smart phone, tablet, laptop, or gigantic desktop monitor. All of this will affect how your carefully designed site looks.

    So it is no wonder that the generic editor you use on wp.com (or other web editor) will look different. It depends who is looking and how they are looking.

  15. lindsaydgraham
    Member

    Once again, thank you to raincoaster and 1tess for spending time to help us. We are now exploring the use of WLW et al to see whether that will make life easier for us.

  16. It is confusing and getting more so. Many of the newer themes here are responsive so they are designed to display your content on various screen sizes. That was one reason rain and I were / are so keen to know the link to your real and actual live site.

    …my wife (who is the author of the blog), does a lot of design work with, eg, Microsoft Publisher, and therefore likes to place images where she wants them and ensure the blog is visually attractive with appropriate formatting.…

    Without being able to see the site, it is impossible to advise you. I hope that one of the offline editors will work. I'm particular about how my posts look, so I spent time learning some html code. My personal blogs have suffered because I've been doing work for other people, but everyone wants their sites to look good.

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