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Facebook publicize aggregating into a single box, not appearing individually

  1. trackofalljades
    Member

    This may sound like an entirely Facebook issue, and if it is I apologize, but I'm not entirely sure that's the case so bear with me...

    I recently decided to start using publicize with Facebook to get my WordPress posts shared in an automated fashion to my Facebook friends. I was already doing this with Twitter, and liked how it was working out (and I'd much rather write through Twitter and WordPress than directly post to Facebook anyway).

    I have noticed that while tweets always appear in my Timeline and on the News Feed of any of my friends as individual, visually separate Facebook "posts," all of my WordPress activity gets summarized/aggregated into a little box that hides way down on my Timeline (and doesn't seem to appear in anyone's News Feed at all). This is unfortunate, and pretty much makes my Facebook publicizing useless because nobody sees the content.

    I could understand this sort of visual compartmentalization if I spammed my WordPress blog a lot, but I make a very conscious effort to never post more than once a day or so (and by comparison I often tweet a couple times within the same day, which makes this all the more puzzling).

    Over on the Facebook side of things, I can see that my Twitter application settings and WordPress application settings are identical with regard to their permissions, and neither one appears to have any settings on the Facebook side to say "do or don't squash this content into a little box."

    So I'm wondering, is it possible something on the WordPress side of things is responsible for this? Is there a setting I need to change somewhere? I'm new to this aspect of WordPress, thanks very much for any guidance.

    The blog I need help with is trackofalljades.wordpress.com.

  2. trackofalljades
    Member

    Thank you Julia, I did see that...in fact it prompted me to go check my follower stat on WordPress, which is indeed correct (over 100 folks).

    However unless I'm missing the connection, I'm not sure the follower metric effects the user experience issue I'm describing? If I'm being dense please enlighten me...I don't fully grok the manner by which Facebook "decides" the display method for app content.

  3. Also: if your primary concern is how many people see the posts, you should do them manually. Autoposted material is downgraded on FB and shown in fewer news feeds than hand-posted material.

  4. trackofalljades
    Member

    I understand that, but what I'm confused by is that my tweets, which are autoposted, are seen by every one of my friends. So it feels like my desired user experience is possible.

    If this is impossible with WordPress, I wonder if that's why some people use intermediaries like Networked Blogs? I've always wondered about that, like why someone would need a middleman.

    I was manually posting my blog to Facebook before, I'm trying to get away from having to worry about doing that. I would just abandon Facebook honestly, if it were up to me, but that's where "everyone else" is all day.

  5. I'm with raincoaster. We are drowning is a sea of auto-posted snippets that are duplicated across multiple social networks. That's not effective blog promotion; it's the indiscriminate and impersonal shotgun approach.

    If all you want is to auto-post then you can use RSS graffiti. http://www.facebook.com/RSS.Graffiti RSS Graffiti periodically checks the RSS/Atom feeds that you specify and posts any new entries it finds to the Facebook Walls that you specify. You can get any feed written on any wall (Facebook Profiles, Fan Pages, Groups, Events and Application Profile Pages). In fact, multiple feeds to multiple walls. You choose the combination.

  6. trackofalljades
    Member

    timethief, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I respect that...but in my specific case I never blog more than once per day and I make no other Facebook posts, so I don't see it as abusing my friends. In fact, I personally would unfriend anyone who did otherwise.

    I only have a very small number of Facebook friends (not hundreds of people I don't really know or read, even though that's normative). The problem is that most of the older and less savvy people I know can't do something like follow an RSS feed or remember a blog URL, it's beyond their typical computer use.

    I will look into RSS.Graffiti or Networked Blogs or something similar as a last resort. I was hoping to get my desired use case out of the official WordPress app but maybe I'm chasing a wild goose there.

  7. Posting your links to too many places is not a good idea. The bots there can consider your blog to be spam or scam. Which is terrible. Posting the links to your profile is the best thing.

  8. trackofalljades
    Member

    I agree with that, I mean, I'm writing a blog and trying to share links to it in one other place. Not lots of places, one place (and that place is a tightly controlled, friends-only place, not a search engine or something).

    I'm interested in making it easier for a small number of people whom I already know to follow my blog, that's all....I guess what I'm confused by is why Facebook would downplay my infrequent traffic through one app (WordPress) versus my more frequent traffic from another (Twitter).

    I wonder if Twitter and Facebook have a special relationship which results in a different display algorithm being applied to their content versus other apps?

  9. @trackofalljades
    I'm just posting again to let your know I flagged this thread for a Staff response.

  10. This is how Facebook chooses to organize items posted via an app, and we unfortunately have no way around that.

  11. trackofalljades
    Member

    This is how Facebook chooses to organize content posted via the WordPress app, but not others (including Twitter and Networked Blogs). That's unfortunate, but thanks for the answer...now I know I'll have to use something other than the WordPress app.

  12. Twitter is not Facebook and does not downgrade autoposted material.

  13. trackofalljades
    Member

    raincoaster, you're misunderstanding me. I was referring to the Facebook apps "Twitter" and "Networked Blogs" (not the web sites by the same name). Facebook visually presents their content, and the content of other apps, differently than it visually presents the content of the official WordPress app for Facebook.

    It's unfortunate, but apparently WordPress has no control over this decision, made by Facebook...so that's my answer.

  14. Please keep in mind that items from Twitter are posted to Facebook as Status updates, and items posted from WordPress are Links.

    I should have clarified that this is how Facebook organizes Links posted from apps.

  15. trackofalljades
    Member

    THANKS that fully explains what I've been confused about. Facebook isn't being arbitrary, it just treats content categorized as a "status" differently than a "link" (which is a bit non-intuitive, since a status can contain a URL to something, as many tweets do).

    Perhaps in a future release, the WordPress app could be updated to allow users to choose whether to have it post to Facebook as a "link" or a "status." I don't know how, exactly, that the Twitter app manages to include images and web sites without being a "link" but apparently it's possible.

  16. You're welcome!

    I've added this as something to consider for future updates.

  17. Hi trackofalljades and macmanx- thank you for shedding some light on this issue.
    I too *loved* publicize as a way that really increased my views to my blog, helping me raise my weekly blog posts to 40 or so views instead of 10 or 15. Since the switch happened I noticed my views drop again...This is really disappointing as I am sure this is a way alot of wordpressers depend on publicity...

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