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  1. timethief
    Member

    It's true, our instructions are for self-installed WordPress blogs only; it's not really practical to use FeedBurner and WordPress.com together at this time. You could use one of the existing sidebar widget to promote and display headlines from a FeedBurner feed, but providing an actual subscription link to your WordPress.com blog's feed (or a FeedBurner feed based on its content) is not yet an option. Our apologies for the confusion; our existing documentation does need to draw a sharper distinction between self-hosted and WordPress.com-hosted content.

    If you would still like us to delete your FeedBurner account, timethief, we can do so. Just let us know.

    Thank you for contacting FeedBurner,

    --
    Matt Shobe
    FeedBurner Support
    http://www.feedburner.com

  2. drmike
    Member

    Huh?

    I've got this one for my blog here:

    <p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/wordpress/ntte" title="Subscribe to my feed, Dr. Mike's Blog - WordPress.com" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml"><img src="http://www.feedburner.com/fb/images/pub/feed-icon16x16.png" alt="" style="border:0"/></a></p>

  3. timethief
    Member

    Huh, indeed. That's why I posted this. I didn't know if I was coming or going %( so I just asked to have my account deleted.
    This is no great loss to me as I have a bloglines account and a feedblitz account. If others want to get their own services that's cool. But I'm thinking I might eliminate all "tat" in my sidebars and go "sidebar naked".

  4. timethief
    Member

    *whistle*

    drmike I'm back with another update from feedburner.

    Your account has been deleted as you requested. Thanks again for sharing your concerns; as soon as we have a well-integrated solution for using FeedBurner and WordPress together we will be sure to publicize it.

    --
    Matt Shobe
    FeedBurner Support
    http://www.feedburner.com

    What to do I wondered and then I acted by sending Matt Shobe another email with your input above in it. I'll let the forum know aht happens next.

    Hi Matt,
    I'm contacting you again because I posted you email to me on the WordPress forum and the Moderator drmike responded to me. Please see his response below.

    Perhaps I acted to hastily when asking that you delete my account. Perhaps "a well-integrated solution for using FeedBurner and WordPress together" has already been devised and ought to be publicized.

    How do you suggest I proceed at this time, Matt?

  5. timethief
    Member

    I just got this from Matt at Feedburner.

    Sorry for the confusion I have caused. It is certainly possible to create a FeedBurner feed based on a WordPress.com blog (you did this before without incident). The problem comes in successfully promoting the FeedBurner feed address on your blog and in ensuring that 100% of the people who subscribe to your feed actually use your FeedBurner feed instead of the original feed that WordPress publishes for you automatically. FeedBurner can only track traffic stats for subscribers who use the FeedBurner feed -- those who may end up subscribed to your original feed are completely unknown to us. So, while you may be successful in placing a link to your FeedBurner feed in your blog's sidebar (as Dr. Mike has indicated, although I didn't actually see any evidence of FeedBurner link on his site, http://drmike.wordpress.com/), people will also be likely to see the links to the original WordPress.com feed down in the footer of the page (or wherever they may be listed, depending on your choice of Theme). You have no way of knowing/controlling which feed they actually subscribe to, and since both carry the same content, end users using your original feed will likely never notice any difference.

    Currently, there is no solution with WordPress.com like the one we have with TypePad: http://www.sixapart.com/typepad/news/2006/06/typepad_and_feedburner.html . This "connection" process we have created with TypePad solves exactly the problem I've outlined above for all TypePad publishers who want to use FeedBurner.

    So, you are of course free to create a properly functioning FeedBurner feed based on your WordPress content, but we have no recommended way to configure your WordPress-hosted site to guarantee that we track 100% of your feed traffic for you.

    Please let me know if this helps clarify the situation.

    --
    Matt Shobe
    FeedBurner Support
    http://www.feedburner.com

    drmike - I'm posting this for clarity.

  6. drmike
    Member

    Matt Shobe is pointing you to a feature of Typepad that takes over your blog's feed and makes your users use Feedburner to pull it or one of the services that they feed. If a user was to try to pull your feed from your site, they would be redirected to Feedburner. He does point out though that using either source (ie Feedburner or using the feed direct from your blog) is fine though as they both some from source. (ie Your blog)

    There's a plug in for WordPress that does this as well but, once again, it requires you to send all of your feed clients over to Feedburner or one of the services that they feed downstream to.

    Me personally, I would rather use my original feed (ie http: //drmike.wordpress.com/feed/) and give that to the services. That way all services can use it, not just the ones Feedburner uses.

    I have my blogs feeding their feeds to Feedburner, I've just never have gotten around to make links for them. It's on my todo list though. (It stands at 300+ items currently now. *sigh*)

    I love this bit though:

    FeedBurner can only track traffic stats for subscribers who use the FeedBurner feed -- those who may end up subscribed to your original feed are completely unknown to us.

    I would think that that would be the main reason why one would want to feed via Feedburner would be the stats. Of course, we have the feed stat page on our Dashboard as well.

  7. timethief
    Member

    drmike- yep! I guess both you and I got the message lol -
    I would think that that would be the main reason why one would want to feed via Feedburner would be the stats.

    Of course, we have the feed stat page on our Dashboard as well.

    And we already have WP feeds so I don't think I'll add any more "tat" to my sidebar. lol

  8. cornell
    Member

    Hey TT - this is off-topic, but you need to look at the URL that you have defined for your main user profile. It points to both blogs at once at the moment and doesn't allow the user to click to your blog. It's one or the other I'm afraid. :(

  9. timethief
    Member

    :o XO Tx for the head up c [Sheesh - she said shaking the sparks off her tail, again. Political or coyote blog hmmmmm what to choose? I know I'll rotate them on a weekly basis.]

  10. nosysnoop
    Member

    Is it important to have all these things like Feedburner and others? I don't have any of those on my sidebar. Just the ones that came with my blog the first day.

  11. timethief
    Member

    Honey look at your stats and tell me how it could matter? [rotflmao]

    I have bloglines which I have a button for in my sidebar. I also have feedblitz but do not advertise by having a button. And of course we all have WP feeds. There's also rojo, etc. etc. I mean take your choice. One button is my limit and bloglines has some nice features, not to mention a blog.

    nosy I'm still laughing about you and your stats - you slay me girlfriend!

  12. nosysnoop
    Member

    I post alot of useless crap. lol A while back on this forum someone asked how to get technorati hits. So I said post useless crap like how I do. :) But if WordPress allowed javascript ads, I know sooooooo many of the HIGH TRAFFIC Blogger blogs that have said they would move here. My traffic pales in comparison to theirs. And people here would say "Hey, where did Scoble go, he's not on the list anymore".

  13. timethief
    Member

    Did you find the post on Adsense that wank posted earlier today? Matt responded to it and closed it. They are working on it nosy and I wouldn't begrudge you a single dollar or dime. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and some believe what I post is "tat" too.

    My photographer can't decide if he wants layout 1, 2 or 3 so we're doing all three. (1) is bare bones on stones [full length undraped nude and fetal ball shots on sandstone beach formations and in undercut sandstone caves at low tide]. (2) is bare ass in the grass [flowing semi draped movement poses and stills in sunlit meadows and pastures]. (3) birds and bees in the trees [forest and underbrush peek-a-boo nude shots in shafts of light between trees]. As long as I get to wear both sunscreen and DEET bug spray I can handle all of them and lol all the way to the bank.:D

  14. nosysnoop
    Member

    Yeah I saw it. If I make any money, it will mostly go back into my site. My next investment will be paying to host my pictures like Photobucket. Other sites use them and pay. But it's a monthly bandwidth thing and I'm afraid all my pictures will vanish if it goes over the limit. I already pay for pictures from WireImage. I also want to pay for story feeds so I don't have to link to the stories all the time. But that's even more money. * crosses fingers *

  15. secondchancetolive
    Member

    Dr. Mike
    From reading the threads in this post, I am a little confused. Would it be prudent to sign up with Feedburner, install the plugin from Steve and have my feeds be picked up by Feedburner. What is the added value of having Feedburner as compared to being content with WordPress Feed Stats? Anyone else got ideas, I am interested in learning. Thanks.

  16. judyb12
    Member

    Craig,

    you can't install the plug-in here; it's only for wordpress.org users. The situation is still as it stands when TT received the following:

    FeedBurner can only track traffic stats for subscribers who use the FeedBurner feed -- those who may end up subscribed to your original feed are completely unknown to us. So, while you may be successful in placing a link to your FeedBurner feed in your blog's sidebar... people will also be likely to see the links to the original WordPress.com feed down in the footer of the page (or wherever they may be listed, depending on your choice of Theme). You have no way of knowing/controlling which feed they actually subscribe to

    Stick with your WP stats for now, and at least they will reflect all of your subscribers.

  17. secondchancetolive
    Member

    Thanks again Judy. Will not get involved with Feed Reader for feeds. Happy with WP on this front.

    Hey by the way, I followed disembedded suggestions and the code he gave me seemed to work...or it appeared to at the time. I have a shortcut on my blog's front page/cover. Looked like I was good to go. I then clicked on the shortcut, was taken to get clicky and logged in. Strange thing is that get clicky does not show any stats for my blog. I do not know if there is a conflict having stile meter also and if so I do not know how to uninstall stile meter-- in my newbiness I do not know where I installed stile meters code. Can you help on this front? By the way, if you want to get a clearer picture on my journey /background read my post...My Journey thus Far on my blog.

  18. isadora
    Member

    This is a very interesting issue for me, too.

    Feedburner offers many services other than stats, such as the possibility for the reader to get the feed by e-mail, to "enrich" the feeds and personalize them, or the awereness API.

    This last one ist the most important for me, since it is used, for example, by http://it.blogbabel.com/, a sort of registry for italian-speaking-blogs only (which of course is quite important only if you aim to be visible to the italian-speaking-readers). As far as I know, there are similar projects also for other languages (I know for sure of spanish).

    I solved this issue in the only way possible: I offer a link to the feedburner-feed on the sidebar, but still, after many months, 60 to 70% of my readers use the wordpress-feed instead of the one from feedburner and the data on blogbabel are falsed.

    I still think wordpress.com is a very confortable platform, which I don't want to miss anymore, nevertheless, the lack of possibility to use properly such services is a major drawback.

  19. raincoaster
    Member

    Some would say giving a third party a monopoly on your blog feeds is itself a drawback. In my experience, trying to force your readers to use a particular technology or service always costs you more readers than it's worth.

  20. isadora
    Member

    raincoaster, actually, feedburner does allow your readers to use the reader they like, they don't even know (or better: most of the time they don't realize it) that they are reading a feed provided by feedburner. If a redirect was possible as it is for the hosted wordpress installations, you would use the standard feed link [blogURL]/feed and only get the benefits. No monopoly, anyway, since a redirect is not made out of concrete :-)
    Any serious answer?

  21. timethief
    Member

    This is an old post. In case someone comes upon it now: we can use feedburner at wordpress.com for offering email updates to our subscribers http://faq.wordpress.com/2006/10/11/how-can-i-offer-email-updates/

  22. almostgotit
    Member

    Wow, what a winding thread this is. What were we talking about, again?

    Feedburner is great, esp with email feature, and if interested in feedburner, I recommend you go directly to their site to learn about it if you don't want to wade through any more of these wordpress threads to find it. But it will only track stats on its own feed (though yes, feedburner feed can be read by many readers.) As stated at the top of this thread, The problem is that Feedburner won't track feed stats for anyone subscribing to wordpress.com feeds, as a large portion of readers do. For instance, yesterday WordPress.com feed stats said I had 45 subscribers. Today, Feedburner claims I have only 2. In another thread, moderator Dr. Mike recommends sitemeter.com, with the caveat that you must find and select the wordpress.com option, as default sitemeter uses java script not supported by wordpress.

    Here's a question which just may start another "look it up in the forums!" thing, but yes or no, somebody: does sitemeter.com measure ALL subscribers (including wordpress feeds?)

    We need a quick, easy, solution ASAP. Otherwise, I volunteer to drive the bus over to typepad...

  23. timethief
    Member

    @almostgotit
    You have repeatedly posted to old threads presumably for the purpose of criticizing the volunteers answering questions on the forum. I have entirely lost patience with your uppity attitude and your snide remarks. From here on out, be prepared to choke on double servings of every nasty remark you make to any volunteers on this forum because I'll be dishing them out faster than you can swallow.

    Oh and here's an appetizer just for you. I dumped all my sitemeter accounts because they have a business arrangement with advertisers with whom they share the data they collect on our blogs. And their cookies have no expiry dates. You'll find this information and more corroboration in the forum searchbox yourself, because, due to your attitude, I won't be doing that for you.

  24. drmike
    Member

    does sitemeter.com measure ALL subscribers

    No, it does not. Just the visits to the website, not the feed counts.

    You really need to learn some manners.

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