Need help? Check out our Support site, then


Finding out the WHOIS and IP of an impostor who used WordPress.com

  1. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @raincoaster

    DMCA is free? I thought their service costs $99.95? Because I would immediately use their service if it was free.

    I'm going to look into this. Thank you.

    I want to know how I can get his identity though. I have an idea of who it is because my friends and I have narrowed it down but we just need that one piece of incriminating evidence that connects the suspicion with the reality.

    If I choose to pursue a case for this, will WordPress be willing to help? It was, after all, this person using their service wrongly, going against their terms of service.

  2. No, you just type out the letter yourself. You don't need to do anything else. I've killed a ton of spammers with that simple template. Some hosts, like Google, demand it on paper, but you don't need a lawyer or anything.

    WordPress.com is not a detective agency. They do not out their bloggers, except to law enforcement agencies with the correct papers (like warrants and court orders). What they WILL do, if you can prove you own the copyright to stuff he's posted on his blog, is suspend the blog. It MAY return once the copyrighted stuff has been deleted, however; that is at staff discretion.

  3. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @raincoaster

    I hope the staff won't think that's the right thing to do though because that would mean his blog would be empty since he stole my name and photo too, not just what I wrote.

    I know they're not a detective agency but won't they be compelled to help right illegal acts? If a court order is needed, I am ready to serve one except I'm not sure whether WordPress is going to honor that because I'm from the Philippines. They might feel that Philippine court orders don't have jurisdiction over them since they're in the States.

    Kind of sad though because this is a crime. It's not just impersonation to deceive but it's also libel.

  4. Just use the DMCA takedown notice and they'll take it down. Isn't that what you want?

    It's not libelous to pretend to be someone else; it is criminal. They are completely different.

    If what you want is to prosecute this person, then get a lawyer or contact the courts yourself and lay charges. Since WP.com is under US law, you can do this either in your country or in the US. If you want to know if staff will honour an order from a Filipino court, ask them directly.

    If what you really want is to find out who is doing this, your best bet is to use social engineering OR get professionals on the case, either private detectives or police and/or lawyers.

  5. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    But it is libelous to say false and bad things that can ruin a person's reputation and that's what he's doing. I've asked lawyers here and they said it can fall under libel.

    Thanks for the other tips. I'll be sure to do those because as much as I want the blog taken down, I'm also worried that this person will just do this over and over again and so the best bet is to really just stop him by finding him and making a case against him.

  6. That's libel; impersonating someone isn't. The distinction is important, because you'll want a different kind of lawyer for a civil action eg libel suit.

  7. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @raincoaster

    Thanks for the tip. That's good to know.

    ---

    To everyone, please help me get the Admin's attention on this. Last night I found a site (http://pinoychan.org/boards/b/res/13020.html) where this poser is gathering friends and other anonymous trolls to help ruin my name. They want to appear as the #1 result in search engines for my name.

    I have already sent in photo evidence with my work ID and myself holding the work ID to both abuse-[email removed] and [email removed please don't feed the spam bots]
    TOSreports replied saying that they can't help me until I send them the correct DMCA format for complaints but I already did that, based on http://labnol.blogspot.com/2007/09/dmca-notice-of-copyright-infringement.html.

    Abuse-report has not replied since Friday last week.

    I really don't understand. So please, help me. This person is already gathering forces and I don't know why he's so adamant at ruining me. I am not a famous person nor am I the bad person that they all think I am.

  8. "To everyone, please help me get the Admin's attention on this."

    You already have the attention of the abuse team.

    Either they have enough information to act, in which case they will. Or they don't, in which case they won't. That's it.

    "I'm also worried that this person will just do this over and over again and so the best bet is to really just stop him by finding him and making a case against him."

    This may be the best advice you'll find in this thread. The WordPress.com abuse team deals with blog posts. They don't have the power to remove someone from the face of the earth.

  9. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @tellyworth

    I know that but that's why I'm asking them what I can present to them so they'll help me find who this is. I already have the local authorities working on it here but this person thrives on being anonymous but I know that he used his own email for his fake WordPress blog because he said so in that pinoychan.org site. He said that he started receiving notifications when I found his WordPress and commented.

    They are already trying to hack into my email. Isn't that a security concern already? I don't understand why it's hard for people to understand. I wouldn't care if I didn't think my security was being compromised. I have since taken down photos and other information about myself but have kept the one on my Tumblr account so WordPress can have that as another piece of evidence that my content was stolen and that this person created a fake blog with it.

    I have also sent in more evidence than I can think of, short of sending them my birth certificate. Do I have to do that as well? Isn't that a bit too extreme?

    I know people are trying to help out but the WordPress abuse team isn't replying, at all. I know they're busy and maybe it's because I'm from the Philippines, making me less important than the other people here. If that's not the case, it sure feels that way.

    I am just really worried. This person is really determined to make my life hell. Here are excerpts from his post on pinoychan.org just to make things even clearer, for people who don't want to click on the link:

    "
    /b/rothers...

    [redacted] ----> THAT'S HIM

    trolled : http://lorraelena.tumblr.com/ -----> THIS IS ME

    http://lorraelenaangbuete.wordpress.com/ -----> THIS IS ALSO ME

    ---

    Some noob (gf ng thesis teacher sa ateneo) decided to shit on all of the ateneans' thesis nung thesis exhibit. She posted it (look at the troll blog for the original post) on her blog and told a handful of people how shitty they were, then removed it after one of the students saw it and nag link sa blog niya. Luckily Mr Google caches shit. Now she's butthurt cause I reposted it, and I am taking first spot for "lorra angbuete" on google so everyone can see her 1337 post.

    If you want to /b/lackup, link to troll blog for more lulz as I hit #1.

    I honestly forgot all about it until she flooded my email with butthurt comments.

    ---

    Not my thesis. Some girl na linait niya who cried and shit. I don't really remember too lazy to google the rest, and I'm not even atenean. I just wanna troll her cause of the butthurt emails I've received.
    "

    They have also started using my name for rudely commenting on people's websites such as http://jronaldlee.com/2010/02/love-letter/#comment-2463 just to get people to think I'm a bad person who just wants to criticize everybody.

  10. pornstarbabylon
    Member

    It's not because you're from the Philippines or less important. I believe WordPress is just protecting themselves from being sued. Because unless there's a court document or some sort of a violation report, they can't pull blogs. Because what if they pull the wrong blog because the real imposter convinced them the other is the imposter.

    Make a page on your blog specifically addressing the matter and keep it on your blog. I recently made a blog post about my imposters and will soon make it a new page too. I've tried telling as many people as i can about the imposters also. But there really isn't much else that I can do. They also want the reaction from you which they crave and feed off of. I've learned very painfully to start backing away from many things and walking away. They will eventually get bored and move on to something else.

  11. pornstarbabylon
    Member

    Make Google alerts for your name & website url & website name. The names without spaces. And your name the normal way but with quotes " " around them to keep the search words together:

    >> MyName
    >> "My Name"

    This way to keep a track of some of the things being said about you.

    Where it says Type, I keep it at Comprehensive. http://www.google.com/alerts

  12. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @pornstarbabylon

    I'm sorry about my comment on being less important. I guess it just feels that way because I'm panicking and scared.

    Also, I have contacted James Lee of http://jronaldlee.com and notified him of the fake poster. He believes me and has taken down the comment from the fake poster. It's a small piece of the silver lining but I really do believe that because I am telling the truth, sooner or later, people will believe me. And maybe WordPress will believe me too.

    I will take your advice about making a page on my blog to advertise my real blogs but I'm not going to talk about or link to the fake blog anymore because that's what this crazy person wants. To be more popular in the search engines and to get a reaction out of me. So I've decided not to converse with him anymore and will just focus on promoting my own work as an artist without mentioning about this situation.

    I'm wondering though if I can already take out the original content in my Tumblr from where this person stole the information for his About Page in his fake blog because I have personal information there such as where I study and where I work and since this is already a security issue, I just want to lessen the possibilities of attracting more trouble. I'm just worried that WordPress won't believe me if I remove the original content.

  13. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @pornstarbabylon

    Thank you so much for all your help. Believe me when I say that this is making me feel a whole lot better, knowing what to do because I just felt so defenseless because I didn't know what my options were.

    I've started on Google Alerts and will add some more keywords based on your tip.

    Thank you so much, again and again.

  14. pornstarbabylon
    Member

    You're welcome. Just take a deep breath and try not getting paranoid over things. I speak from experience. The only thing keeping me sane is they don't know who I really am in the real world.

  15. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @pornstarbabylon

    Sadly, I can't say the same for myself. They know what I look like, my name, where I work, where I study. I have learned my lesson about being so visible on the Internet the hard way and now I have to learn how to back away and let go.

    I wish I won't have to feel paranoid or feel that I have to hide from people forever. It's just scary that when I go out, this person who's trying to ruin me or the people they've convinced will recognize me and hurt me for real. Or worse, they go after my loved ones. I really want to spare them from all that more than anything.

    And I'm sorry if I'm just letting this out here. Talking to you has made me feel better and I've learned a lot of ways to try and fix this problem. If I find this person, then great. If I don't, I can just work on getting his fake blog deleted. But if even that doesn't work in my favor then I guess I'll just have to make sure his fake blog gets buried so deep in search engines that no one will find it.

  16. @lorra
    IMHO posting here at all was a bad move that fed the troll and continuing to post to it now is feeding the troll.

    You do know that this is a public forum, right? And you do know the troll is getting what it wants because you posted here and it's watching you, right?

    If I were you I would be asking worpress.com Staff support to delete all the links in this thread and then lock it. Then the troll could not see what I was doing and would not be getting off on my discomfort.

    Starve the troll!

  17. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    @timethief

    I think I just didn't know where else to turn to. I guess I was just digging my own grave to begin with.

    But also, how can I ask the WordPress staff to delete links and lock this thread? They won't reply to me.

  18. Ask them here and now to remove all the links so the troll blog does not get hits, and to close the thread because you believe continuing to post to it is not in your best interest, nor in wordpress's best interest. They may say "yes". They may say "no" but you won't know until you ask.

  19. Snap! I forgot to say - failure to engage is a powerful tool. You could stop dwelling on this topic in your blog here or elsewhere. You didn't really want the blog here at wordpress.com so making it "private" is no big deal. Chanfe the visibility and ignore, ignore , ignore the ignorant troll.

  20. lorraelenaangbuete
    Member

    I guess this is going to be the last post for this thread because I'm following timethief's advice and I'm asking, pleading for the WordPress staff to just delete all the links in this thread especially the ones for the fake blog and to lock this thread off.

    I feel that posting here was a bad idea because it potentially gives the troll more power against me and thus compromising my security even more.

    Thank you to everyone who gave me advice and tips and I hope that the WordPress staff decides to grant me my plea.

  21. I've edited the links and removed the modlook tag, as you've gotten in touch with TOS.

Topic Closed

This topic has been closed to new replies.

About this Topic