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Google Adsense should be alloud.

  1. dougary2112
    Member

    Yes, i know this may be asked alot but this is my FIRST time actually on the forums.
    Even if Google Ads well never be on wordpress WHY NOT?
    i am just a newbie blogger but i get over 15k veiws a month now and google ads would be awsome, i would atleast make $50 a month. And im still a teenager so it may not be alto to you or me, but its still something!

    (please dont be any trolls as i know they are pretty useless & i know this will be an annoying post.)

    The blog I need help with is dougary2112.wordpress.com.

  2. t3ck
    Member

    The reason Google adsense is NOT allowed is because staff already runs Google adsense ads on our blogs to pay the bills if you would like for the ads NOT to show up you can purchase the upgrade to remove the ads. http://en.support.wordpress.com/no-ads/

  3. 1tess
    Moderator

    Is this you: http://dougary2112.wordpress.com/
    Please post a link to the blog you are asking about every time you have a ?
    http:// ???

    I'd ask you how much you are paying to get your "15k veiws a month" with your blog?
    nada

    nada for you?

  4. 1tess
    Moderator

    So who is hosting your site and how much do your pay?

    You could self-host…

  5. bats0711
    Member

    With 15k views a month I would think you would have more comments than you do, of course if that link is the blog that is yours.

  6. raincoaster
    Member

    If you're confident of making that much, it'd pay you to move to WordPress.ORG.

  7. tellyworth
    Staff

    I have a web site that gets 20k page views a month according to Analytics. Last time I tried Adsense on it, I made $0.14.

  8. timethief
    Member

    Frankly I'm glad it's NOT allowed because I spent the last year and a half on another forum listening to blogspot (Blogger) bloggers cry the blues about either not getting a check from Adsense until they earn $100. 00, or having their Google Adsense accounts banned. The $100.00 limit is stated outright in the Google Adsense policies. The reason their accounts were banned was due to their participation in click fraud schemes, which is also dealt with up front in the Google Adsense policies. http://onecoolsite.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/adsense-click-fraud-is-a-fools-game/

    I visited all of the blogs of those who were seeking a shoulder to cry on and I did some research on their blog contents as well. Not surprisingly, in almost all cases their blogs were filled with plagiarized and/or stolen content. From my viewpoint the fact that wordpress.com runs Adsense and we can't means that wordpress.com is not a haven for blog scrapers, sploggers, and spammers like blogspot (Blogger) is.

    Anyone in business knows they must spend a little money to make more. If you think you have content worth monetizing and your blog currently gets 1000 - 1500 unique visitors every day then my advice to you is to hire a web host and self host a free software install from http://wordpress.ORG

  9. thesacredpath
    Member

    @tellyworth, I try to explain that to web clients all the time and there is little chance of it getting through. They all have $$$ in their eyes and see themselves having places on the French Riviera and in the Caribbean and their own jets (slight exaggeration).

    Some people make a little money, but the vast majority get a $100 check every 12-24 months if they are lucky.

    There is no free lunch.

  10. 1tess
    Moderator

    On the other hand:
    how does WordPress.Com make money for hosting so many blogs for free?

    (just really wondering because when I try to explain it to someone…
    well, it makes little sense.)

  11. bookguy4
    Member

    Likewise, adding money would kinda ruin it. :)

  12. thesacredpath
    Member

    They have 2.5 million blogs or so to put ads on, and if you take into consideration the "no-ads" upgrade is only $30 per year, what does that say about how much they average?

    And they have blogs hosted here that get hundreds of thousands of hits each month, so even at a small percentage of click though's that is still quite a good number.

  13. tellyworth
    Staff

    Adsense is only one part of WordPress.com's income. Most of the ad revenue comes from a relatively small percentage of blogs.

  14. bookguy4
    Member

    "Adsense is only one part of WordPress.com's income. Most of the ad revenue comes from a relatively small percentage of blogs."

    He's talking about my blog of course. *twiddles thumbs*

  15. feartheseeds
    Member

    If you're getting 15,000 hits per week on http://dougary2112.wordpress.com/ you should definitely self-host.

    1tess: I don't believe WordPress.com or Automattic are turning a profit yet, feel free to correct me but I think they're still in the venture capital stage...

    "...Automattic had raised a whopping $29.5 million in a Series B Round of funding, including a strategic investment from The New York Times Co. Previous investors True Ventures, Polaris Ventures, and Radar Ventures also invested in this round."

    http://gigaom.com/2008/01/22/wordpresscom-creator-raises-29m/

  16. thesacredpath
    Member

    As I understand it, wordpress.COM is a commercial thing separate from .ORG and Automattic. In other words, .COM has to stand on its own.

  17. tellyworth
    Staff

    "I don't believe WordPress.com or Automattic are turning a profit yet"

    We make enough to pay the bills.

  18. 1tess
    Moderator

    @feartheseeds

    1tess: I don't believe WordPress.com or Automattic are turning a profit yet, feel free to correct me but I think they're still in the venture capital stage...

    I do not know who is, or is not, making money. But the OP seems to be demanding money or profit for himself for nothing. This service we enjoy is costing us nothing (plus we get this amazing forum with volunteer experts)!! Free!!!

    The OP wants "Google Adsense should be alloud." Spelling errors aside, he or she is asking for a free lunch or a free ride or something free, and also wants a profit?

  19. 1tess
    Moderator

    Also 15k or 20k per month won't generate much income. No matter what great things my dear husband thinks about my blog…

    not with adsense…

  20. hillelstoler
    Member

    @1tess: It doesn't have to be a 'free lunch' (not that I have anything against free lunches!) - WP.com could make this a paid upgrade.

    That said, I don't think it's a good idea for many reasons:

    1. It's cruel - many people will be tempted, and very few will even cover the upgrade cost.

    2. It will attract all kinds of spammers (and we have enough of those already, thanks!)

    3. It will funnel money and clients to Google (and that's a free lunch I don't like!)

    4. It will be a subsystem based on the technology of another company (I think Automattic are trying to gradually get rid of 3rd party WordPress components – but maybe I'm wrong)

    5. People will start blogging for the wrong reasons – imagined profits instead of fun (resulting in frustration instead of fun!).

  21. phoxis
    Member

    Advertisement is needed in free blogs so that the hosting organization can pay the bills, but if there is no such needs then i personally do not like ads in the blog for some extra money, even it will give me money directly. This simply spoils the webpage. I support a separate add page, as they have separate add channels in TV. And for Google AdSense, how many people clicks on the adds, if you do not appoint people to click them.

  22. 1tess
    Moderator

    @hillelstoler
    I agree with you completely. Well said.

    @phoxis
    "how many people click on the ad?"
    Don't know, but how many people click on spam email?
    Must be some, or they wouldn't keep doing it…

    For I can raise no money by vile means. —Julius Caesar > Act IV, scene III

  23. raincoaster
    Member

    hillelstoler, you nailed it.

  24. dougary2112
    Member

    Really guys. that is MY BLOG. i also moved it to Blogspot.
    http://boredumbuster.blogspot.com/
    And really the only reason i dont get much comments is because its pictures and stuff, most people that search them are from other search engines without a wordpress account AND i dont think they would be willing to creat an account to comment on a picture they want saved etc..

    So please dont try say that i'm lying.

  25. raincoaster
    Member

    If you moved it, that's fine. What are you doing HERE, where we're talking about WordPress.COM?

    We're not saying you're lying. We're saying you're wrong.

    I make about $600 a month of ads on my blog network, and of that, I'd say that about 1/20th is Adsense. Besides, Adsense makes you look...cheap and stupid. It does. Adsense is just goddam tacky and makes you look like a two-bit loser.</stong>

  26. dougary2112
    Member

    Well im only 15.. so i think thats all i can do at this moment.

  27. raincoaster
    Member

    Even 15 year olds don't have to look cheap and loserish.

  28. raincoaster
    Member

    By the way, unless I'm mistaken, 15 is not old enough to get an authorized Adsense account. So you're out of luck anyway.

  29. vikasjnu
    Member

    Very interesting discussion! I laughed more than once reading the posts.

    My blog gets about 16k hits per month and I shifted to wordpress.org only yesterday http://vikas-gupta.in . Will soon try AdSense on it but that is not the primary reason I shifted. I wanted more themes and flexibility apart from experimenting with ads. I have no big desire for earning from ads.

    Dougary 2112, your assertion in the header of your new blog "I made this blog originally on WordPress but it didnt allow me to put a google Ad on it so i shifted all my posts onto this! enjoy." is in bad taste. You will make a bad entrepreneur! It is a WP policy, nothing less nothing more! You speak like you are some financial whizzkid LOL! You haven't even put up redirection notice on your WP blog!

    BTW, if anybody wants to see how the AdSense ads by by WP look on our blogs, then click this link http://vikas-gupta.in/2009/11/09/not-many-know-that-the-free-wordpress-com-blogs-have-ads-on-them/

  30. bats0711
    Member

    Yes you did move it and now you have ads by dodge on it, oh and slot machines.

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