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Hatch Theme Bonk

  1. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    The Hatch Theme recently changed the screen width at which it jumps to an iPhone menu. It now does it on 14 inch monitors, which is not desirable. Anyone have any idea how to change the CSS for that in The Hatch theme?

    The blog I need help with is claudiamcdonough.com.

  2. Hi there, the menu now goes to the minified version at 1024px, because on sites with more than one submenu item, the 2nd, 3rd and later were not accessible on a number of tablets.

    Sorry, this is not something that can be changed via CSS, as it is set in the theme files.

  3. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Why wouldn't you just build in a fork that could be set by the user or contingent on the number of menu items? Or create a new theme for submenu wonks ? -- instead of bumming out what I'm sure is a substantial installed user base from way back.

    Given especially that Lynda hawked it.

    My clients are screaming and I'm scrounging around all over the place looking for a replacement but no -- they want The Old Hatch Theme. It's bad business to pull the chair out from under us like that.

  4. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Also, with all due respect (thank you very much I LOVE WordPress) - surely it would be The WordPress Way to give us the option to edit a comment after we've posted it.

    . . .

    Is there a way to do that?

    The Hatch Theme, by the way, is even more broken on the dot org install. I don't just get the Tablet version, on my 14 inch monitor, I get the iPhone version. Teeny tiny. I kid you not.

  5. Why wouldn't you just build in a fork that could be set by the user or contingent on the number of menu items? Or create a new theme for submenu wonks ? -- instead of bumming out what I'm sure is a substantial installed user base from way back.

    We thought about this, but our goal is to keep moving forward without having to manage multiple versions of themes. However, I understand you are frustrated and I am researching the change a bit more and will discuss it with the Theme Team and get back to you.

    We don't take changes to themes likely at all, and this change was a result of complaints received about longer submenus not being accessible on smaller screens (tablets and smaller desktop monitors).

    Also, with all due respect (thank you very much I LOVE WordPress) - surely it would be The WordPress Way to give us the option to edit a comment after we've posted it.

    We've actually found that a lot of forum users abused an option like that, so we removed it and we prefer to leave comments as is in most cases.

    The Hatch Theme, by the way, is even more broken on the dot org install. I don't just get the Tablet version, on my 14 inch monitor, I get the iPhone version. Teeny tiny.

    I'll test the self-hosted version and discuss this with the Theme Team also. Both versions should be substantially identical as far as design and the way they work.

  6. May I ask one more thing? What is the resolution set at on your 14" monitor?

  7. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Wow. Super responsive! A bzillion points for you guys, thanks.

    Resolution of my monitor is set to 1024 x 768 (recommended). It's a Sony, flat panel, I've had it over a decade - not as long as I've had my altec lansing speakers - and the color fidelity rocks.

    I can ask the artist in question for their screen size and res, if you like, they have also been getting the tablet version on their desktop (at work (a Non-Profit (still on IE 9!))).

    It does indeed look fine on a 17 inch -- eSPECially with that Le Monde Sans font!

    Here is a test dot org install of hatch for comparison (so you can see the bonks):

    http://evolve.visibleorder.com/

    I'll send you a print screen.

    Note also that I have jetpack installed (yay!) and both the gallery and cool mosaic features are installed (yay squared) - BUT: both pages in the notebooks submenu are set to cool mosaic. . . to no effect.

    Again, the dot com install is claudiamcdonough.com

    Big thanks, sincerely,
    :-)

  8. alisonmcdonough
    Member

  9. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    I should perhaps mention also that we had some difficulties earlier, with lining the home page titles with the titles on the rest of the site, and added the following to the css (only on the dot com install):

    .pho-gallery img {
    margin: 2px;
    display: block;
    float: left;
    }

    .home.page #masthead hgroup {
    margin: 0;
    }

    #masthead {
    margin: 20px 0 0;
    }

  10. Many thanks for your follow-up information and I'll add it to the mix. Yes, if you can get the monitor resolution and size from your client, that would be great!

    I've installed Hatch on my .org test setup and will be checking it out against what you have given above and report my findings to our Theme Team, and also back here to you.

    Hang in there.

  11. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    I will, of course, hang in there. My client, otoh, is looking at a looming 30-day money back guarantee that expires on Saturday (the 23rd). Any chance of getting them an extension under the circumstances?

    Either way, I'm a content strategist/IA, not a coder/sys admin -- so my goal is to be able to go with the Premium WordPress.com solution as the one with the least amount of headaches for my clients.

    If I could get our biggest hurdle to be understanding the difference between a post and a page, that would be super fab. :-)

  12. @alisonmcdonough, we are discussing this now and hopefully I'll have something to report back shortly.

  13. @alisonmcdonough, I'm going to work on a CSS solution for you which will turn the small mobile menu into the full menu between 769px and 1024px. After our discussion it was decided that due to the ever increasing use of tablets to consume the web the recent change to the menus will stay. We are always looking for better solutions and hopefully sometime in the (hopefully near) future, there will be better options for accommodating both mobile and desktop.

    Hang in there (again) while I work on the CSS solution for you.

  14. @alisonmcdonough, the CSS classes for the menu change from full menu to small menu and that is causing some issues in trying to get the submenus to work properly. I'm still working on this. I just wanted to let you know.

  15. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Great. Thank you.

  16. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Someone just explained to me about the resolutions on smartphones rivaling the resolutions on older monitors -- so that explains why the choice of responsive design is so problematic for web design curating lower budget enterprises.

    Let's put the fish dinner aside and think about the fishing trip instead, what do you think?

    I'd still like to standardize on Responsive Design. Is this issue something I can deal with using a child theme on a dot org install? There must have been some sort of universal code deployed, it seems like everyone in the High Tech industry has migrated their UIs.

    All that being said, can you point out where the Hatch Theme edit bonked my dot org install, and maybe give me some suggestions so that I can address the issue without crowding your to do list?

  17. With a self-hosted site, you have a lot more options and can actually create a child theme and modify the PHP script files if you wish.

    On your .org test site, I see you have the menu issue straightened out so that it doesn't shift to the small menu until 768px.

  18. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Good heavens sir, I thought you'd left us in the dust!

    Please forgive me for failing to update you.

    If by .org test site you mean evolve.claudiamcdonough.com, we are currently leveraging Spacious Pro (not available on the .com) -- pushing it to the limit - and apparently looking at a Big Green Light (so far so good).

    Thank you so much for all your help and tenacity.

  19. You are welcome and sorry we couldn't come up with a solution that would work for you. Best of luck.

  20. alisonmcdonough
    Member

    Of all the Solutions that are working for me these days - WordPress is at The Very Top!

    The Dot Com has its uses, of this you can be sure. Everybody says so, and so do I.
    :-)

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