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If you don’t want to Die , what do you know about Perpetual life ?

  1. xbardulce
    Member

    If you don’t want to Die , what do you know about Perpetual life ?

    Regardless of how hard you try to avoid thinking about death there are moments when it hits you in all its eternal finality . Hence the middle-age blues realising the futility of life and the arrival in full blast of the gilt of having children and dragging them through the same non-sense . BTW , that’s how the average sad expression gets to sculpture the faces of elders .

    But look over there , in the Cell Biology manual , and see the human germ and cancer cells demonstrated as immortal or having Perpetual life !
    Really ?? And They didn’t tell us !
    I mean , just as They should have told us that eating according to your blood type is the foundation of proper nutrition , They should have disclose as well that nature already mixed chemicals in our bodies that created perpetually lived cells .
    It’s only Fair to know it and to disclose its meanings to the entire population – taking a chance here of being condescending in terms that the Cell Biology text is/was available to students and scientists for decades … ( that shakes to dust the scientists as ‘pillars’ of our society , leaving no one to hold the roof ) .

    So , would we ask too much from our governments and scientists to initiate Immediately (!) a research program into adjusting our DNA to give us perpetual life ? Because of Not to do it would imply They don’t give a damn about your life !
    Well , They didn’t , so eat it ! they don’t care about your life , obviously .
    I mean They have no problem using a fiat currency and are not able to legislate simple and commonsense acts like mandatory Organic food , so how can you expect from them complicated things like a perpetual life programme ?
    So , What are you going to do about it ??
    Are you going to take it and die ? Would you do it for the sake of your children ?

    Would you sign a Petition ? List and discuss issues , than Show me !

    ( Overpopulation , food issues and the whole programme can be judged by you at RecipeForaNation.Wordpress.com )

    Issues :

    - overpopulation
    - food
    - land
    - politics
    - the unification of the human specie , one nation ( under good leaders , Duh ! )
    - the Nano revolution
    - exiting Milky Way
    - gardening the Universe with the fruit of Love and Peace

    Warning : this is an " Off Topic " post !

    The blog I need help with is recipeforanation.wordpress.com.

  2. xbardulce
    Member

    Ponder , the greatest enemy , death , is not # 1 in science and politics priorities !
    After you ponder enough , ponder if you should take action ...

    BTW , it was just announced : we are now 7 billion on this lil island in the cruel Universe ...

  3. lettershometoyou
    Member

    I've received spam email that makes more sense.

  4. timethief
    Member

    @lettershometoyou
    Me too. :(

  5. xbardulce
    Member

    To ' lettershometoyou ' and ' timethief ' : neither of you need to feel bad for not understanding the message ( as you both addmit ) after all , to digg Perpetual life and its implications requires a deep understanding of life it self ...

    However , feel free to ask questions , I'll even answer SPAM comments .
    But be careful , one can be judged by the questions or comments left ...

  6. wingstruck
    Member

    in an elemental break down of the entire human body right down to the smallest of cells,dont we all live on perpetually?i mean our bodies,are just flesh bone blood,the core of our being it our brain stem,its what the human body is made to protect,in order for us to have this human life form,which again scientifically,can be broken down into its very basic components.I think we all have kinetic energy,and science has proven that kinetic energy is a cycle and it never really goes away,it just disperses into its basic elements,back into the universe.im not saying there is no life after death,or a god heaven etc......im just saying how we precieve that afterlife to be might be more a biological breakdown,of body and mind,rather then an actual place we go too,we dont do anywhere,we are either cremated or buried,we simply begin another life cycle and go back into the earth,the planet,the universe,to substain further life......personally i find that more comforting,then being told about angels and devils.......feel free to question,agree or disagree with me

  7. xbardulce
    Member

    Wingstruck , first of all , thank you for providing a reply that it is a discussion and not SPAM comments .

    I share with you the idea of disintegrating upon death and going back to ‘basic’ materials and in the process not maintaining a coherent ‘self’ , hence not encountering any ‘life-after-death’ or gods .

    What I wanted to see about other’s thinking are the ‘side effects’ of Perpetual life . Some of them are described in the Recipe for a Nation , but I feel I missed a few .
    What would you change in this society if everyone would suddenly have perpetual life ?
    Think about it and surprise yourself by the way your society guidelines would also change ( dramatically – and that’s what I am driving at ).
    Please Wigstruck , and all , tell about those changes .

  8. lettershometoyou
    Member

    One can also be judged by the OPs one makes and yours is one of the largest piles of bunk I've seen in ages. Oh, I guess that really makes me unable to have any insights into the deeper meanings of life. As if you have a clue. What arrogance you show.

  9. xbardulce
    Member

    " ... As if you have a clue. What arrogance you show. " . and " I've received spam email that makes more sense. " .

    I said that My clues are displayed in the Recipe and you admitted they don't make sense to you . Do you call this ‘ arrogance ‘ on my part ?? Did you even finish reading the Recipe ?

    But most importantly – in two posts – you provided absolutely no Argument against anything in particular about the Recipe . All you said is that you don’t understand it .
    OK , please name something that you don’t understand in the story so I can clarify it for you , my pleasure ! Go ahead … or let the SPAM rest in peace .

  10. xbardulce
    Member

    ... anyways , aside from spam , here is the carrot in front of your willpower to demand perpetual life :

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-germ-cells.htm

    " ... However, research has shown that although germ cells are technically immortal, they are prone to errors in the duplication process as they age, which explains why children born to older people are more prone to genetic defects caused by problems with replication. " .

    Now , how about the changes in our mentality , habits , laws etc. that would occur as the result of realizing perpetual life ? That’s the main topic .

    I am positive that we may be very shocked after completing the list …

  11. xbardulce
    Member

    Sorry , here is the entire paragraph :

    …. Germ cells have another interesting trick up their sleeves, in addition to being haploid. They are also technically immortal, capable of replicating themselves infinitely, unlike somatic cells, which can only duplicate themselves a limited number of times before they start to mutate or division simply fails. However, research has shown that although germ cells are technically immortal, they are prone to errors in the duplication process as they age, which explains why children born to older people are more prone to genetic defects caused by problems with replication...

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-germ-cells.htm

    Recipe for a Nation , future shocking !
    http://RecipeForaNation.Wordpress.com
    An universal survival manual for any intelligent specie , in any galaxy , and it starts with a peaceful Revolution .

  12. wingstruck
    Member

    ok forgive me of this,but there is a lot on your page and ive read over an hours worth of content so heres how i see there are minor flaws in your logic,some insights youve not taken into consideration,your quoting,understanding it yourself in your mind,but your not breaking it down and putting you own twist to what your saying,not contributing to your beliefs in a way. youve gathered all this information,and yes i have read and am familiar with the works you quote,because ive taken the time to sit down and read them cover to cover,but the average person who stumbles upon you page is not going to get it,your not voicing it or laying down simple your arguments and what you believe in,if you want others to respond to you,you have to ask us questions,get us engaged,make us think,give examples,adapt them,analogies,metaphors,something to relate too,and make the reader pause and really think do you honestly think that every single person who likes to read,likes sitting down to streams and streams of scientific fact,of course they dont,and there within is issue. im in 100% agreement with your collective view,and i too have my own take which may slightly differ from your own,but in my mind ive adapted it too real life situations,events,common occurences,and that is really the only way to get people involved,vocal,about there own beliefs and how they view the world.You have to adapt all that you know and that ive read,so that people will quite easily understand it,again you may be overestimating the average persons attention span,you need to grab them,have you arguments for XYZ and then expand on them,quote,give your personal views,and adapt the context to something the reader can relate too anyway thats just my opionion feel free to question or ignore it,and if you want to know more about how ive adapted and my version,personal view on the matter,feel free to contact me,or leave a comment

  13. wingstruck
    Member

    again this is just on observation,of books,films,concepts you quote,the facts behind your arguments,thats all.It just seems to be going from one concept,and then back into sci fi,surrealism,when you write,and then back to fact,then back to surrealism,and its disjointed slightly,your going from storey telling......about daniel,getting us to relate to him as a character,see him as a real person and then you make the assumption that people will follow scientific language......example
    when daniel was directly speaking......it was just an abrupt heres the facts out of nowhere,end conversation...back into daniels plane journey........back into scientific conversation.....back into what daniels doing......
    its unique,how your voicing science through a character......but its coming off sounding fictional,and not an argument,or show of beliefs,more of a storey about a trip a guy took,and hours of dialogue he had

    so which are you doing? are you story telling,or are you legitametly trying to get your belief in how life lives on in a scientific way across?i can see what your trying to do,theres just a littel bit of work,fine tuning to make it flow better,easier to follow,let the reader know what happening before they read,know what they are in for.
    you have a message,this just may not be the best form of writing style to get it across

  14. xbardulce
    Member

    Wingstruck , you said it wonderfully , after all this is what ( intelligent ) life is about :
    “ … ,but in my mind ive adapted it too real life situations,events,common occurences,and that is really the only way to get people involved,vocal,about there own beliefs and how they view the world… “ .

    You said further , very astutely and extrordinary Observant :
    “ … so which are you doing? are you story telling,or are you legitametly trying to get your belief in how life lives on in a scientific way across? … “ .

    That’s one of the problems , how do you describe regular , ordinary life that is within reach in our life time ( see internet links provided in the Recipe ) when that life style is mind blowing for us today ! It’s like seating at the bottom of the Hoover Dam trying to contemplate how you’ll feel when in an instant – life time - they’ll fully open the gates …
    The Last thing I wanted to paint is a sci-fi scenario , the life portrayed in the Recipe is as real as it can get somewhere in the Universe … Somewhere Guaranteed . I just want to bring it to Earth now …

    You further revealed one of my concerns :
    “ … theres just a littel bit of work,fine tuning to make it flow better,easier to follow,let the reader know what happening before they read,know what they are in for. you have a message,this just may not be the best form of writing style to get it across .” .

    Indeed , my native tongue is not English so I hope someone may pick up the Recipe and , like you said , fine tune it .

    Thanks a lot Wingstruck and keep it coming !

  15. wingstruck
    Member

    Your more than welcome,if you want me to spend some time going over everything you have written,send me a draft if you have that available,i can go over it and leave some notes and specifics for you
    Congrats though,for a second language youve expressed yourself very well
    again it is a very small and very fixable minor details.
    transitioning from streams direct speech and instead incorporating it into the overall story,again nothing wrong with it grammatically its just a structure issue your having
    You are assuming also that everyone who is going to read it will have a general knowledge of biology or some degree of scientific vocabulary
    This is a very simple fix though,its just when more than half of the story is direct speech you have to be aware that at point of "Block paragraphs"you lose the interest of the reader,not too many people can sit and read an entire 2 person written conversation easily,without it being broken up,again a very slight structural issue
    personally it was a very good read,an interesting one,now you just need to make it have mass appeal
    feel free to contact me on my page ok
    peace out
    https://wingstruck.wordpress.com/

  16. xbardulce
    Member

    Wow Wingstruck !
    I left this message on your blog , and post it here for all to see :
    Very fluent writing , cleaver choice of words , I floated through reading it ,,, have a brew and enjoy travels described by words .

    I strongly recommend reading Windstruck ,,, cozy up and enjoy mental relaxation by excitment of sparkling worlds .
    Great work Windstruck , keep it up !
    P.S. I can see short videos with the reading Voice in the background ... U - Tube ? Why not , try it , you are a writer !

  17. wingstruck
    Member

    Just put you up and recommended you on my site.
    also check your comments and email,ive just finished drafting for you
    thank you so much for the comments,and the thread feed,means a lot
    to me that someone would take the time to read my writings.
    I have considered it,again maybe when i get more professional,then i currently am
    I am a life student and i know there are improvements i can make
    to better myself and improve my writing style
    One way i love to do this is by reading other voices,such as yours,and picking
    up on my own insights,or thoughts,and simply putting pen to paper
    in a manner of speaking,believe it or not even i get bored with hearing the
    words in my own head,and having them all layed out for me personally
    expresses and reaffirms my lifes beliefs,thoughts and revelations
    Thank you so much for the suggestion,im more into watching them
    voicing personally,and my blog is simply an endeavor i undertake for myself
    Im so glad you shared your work with us,i loved reading it,and hearing new
    perspectives,very refreshing,pause for thought words.
    Talk soon
    wingstruck
    https://wingstruck.wordpress.com/
    PS,xbardulce i just added you to the blogging friends list,check out what i wrote
    https://wingstruck.wordpress.com/blogging-friends/

  18. xbardulce
    Member

    Wingstruck , many thanks and best wishes dear !

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