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  1. I've noticed that the spam filter creates too many "false positives". But I haven't checked for a while, so some old messages marked as spam seem to have been deleted before I reviewed them. Is there any way to get them back?
    Blog url: http://aplantage.wordpress.com/

  2. "No" there is no way to get the spam comments back.

    Frankly I'm amazed you think there are too many false positives because that's not what my over 6 years of experience indicate at all. Your blog is new and you don't seem to be aware that people are hired to submit spam because I found the following spam comments which you approved and posted:

    http://aplantage.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/147/#comment-8
    http://aplantage.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/147/#comment-10
    http://aplantage.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/a-note-on-little-sweetheart-1989/#comment-11
    /2012/04/02/a-note-on-the-magnet-1950/#comment-12

  3. You can change your other comments settings if you wish but I don't recommend doing that.

    Automatically close comments on articles older than __ days – This setting can be used to have comments closed on articles that are X days old. As an example, if you only want articles to accept comments for 30 days you would check the box and type 30 into the text field. http://en.support.wordpress.com/settings/discussion-settings/#other-comment-settings

    The vast and overwhelming majority of all so-called information on the internet is spam. Over 80% of all comments submitted to .wordpress.com blogs every day are spam. The worst of all spam containing malware and viruses is not sent to us. It's removed as it could bring down many blogs if opened.

    If Akismet has sequestered spam comments simply click "empty spam" button. If you get spam that slips by Akismet then mark it as spam (do not delete it) and over time Akismet will learn it's spam.

    On the spam that Akismet catches it takes only seconds to click "empty spam" and you don't even have to click "empty spam" if you don't want to. Akismet will maintain comments it has caught for 15 days from the time they were received, and then it will delete the comment automatically.

    For more information please take the time to read "5 things every blogger should know about spam" on this page Akismet: How it works http://akismet.com/how/

  4. Thanks for your reply.

    Well, then I'm less intelligent than Akismet, because I didn't recognize those comments as spam (and frankly, I still don't). But the comment by "Mark" on JULES ET JIM was categorized as spam as well, and you seem to agree that that IS a genuine comment?

    I've read about Akismet, and I'm aware of all of the other things you wrote. I just had a question about the one point that I asked about. And my blog isn't new (just not visited much, as it seems).

  5. But the comment by "Mark" on JULES ET JIM was categorized as spam as well, and you seem to agree that that IS a genuine comment?

    This comment is spam. http://aplantage.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/147/#comment-8

  6. They are certainly spam comments and if you allow loads of spam comments on your blog Google will soon drop you down the bottomless well as it will see your blog as spam. And if you approve spam comments that Akismet has marked as spam you will get a warning from WordPress. Genuine people very rarely comment. Spammers comment constantly with the same comments. The email address is usually a clue to a spammer too, as is the username.

  7. Attracting followers that comment takes lots of time an effort. It takes months of posting frequently to attract viewers who will actually submit comments. Reciprocity is alive and well in the blogosphere; social networking is strictly give to get. The best way to get comments on your own posts is to leave meaningful comments on blogs with similar content to what's in your own blog. Set a goal of commenting on "X" number of blogs weekly and carry through. Best wishes with your blog.

  8. "Genuine people very rarely comment"

    That's surprising, and rather disappointing. On other sites, such as YouTube, many genuine people comment. Not much point in publishing anything interactively, if there is no interest in discussion.

  9. Wow! you experience of youtube and mine aren't the same. Youtube is full of some of the most vile troll comments I have ever read. Some people I know have closed comments on their videos there to stop the trolls who post obscene and asinine off-topic comments.

  10. If you don't mind me saying so, relying on the field of dreams notion ie. "build a blog and they will come" is bound to result in disappointment. The minute after you publish a post you need to actively promote it throughout social networks. Even after you do that for about every 700 - 800 page views you will get only 1 comment.

  11. "Wow! you experience of youtube and mine aren't the same."

    Seems so. I've had trolls, but they have been very few, in contrast to literally hundreds of very nice comments (every few days), and some even quite intelligent and interesting. :-)

  12. "The minute after you publish a post you need to actively promote it throughout social networks."

    I have no wish to advertise myself. I thought that people would find the posts if they were interested in a certain topic and searched for it (eg a film that is discussed). That's how it works on YouTube.

  13. I'm averaging one comment per 700 views across all my blogs, and the same on YouTube. YT gets a lot of comments because you're looking at popular videos.

  14. My YouTube channel is at 1,100 views and no comments. My main site has one comment for ever 3,000 to 4,000 page views maybe. I have a history site that has a higher number of comments per page views but it has a lot on a small town and some people that were born there liked the pictures - my main site - people just come for the info -

  15. notawoodpecker
    Member

    Of close to 900 comments, 5 were legitimate and I deleted 2 of those as unresponsive and argumentative, leaving a total of 3 Approved.

  16. Interesting.

  17. notawoodpecker
    Member

    Akismet has protected your site from 891 spam comments already.
    There are 7 comments in your spam queue right now.

    Most of them (by far) were from the spammer [lista de emails] that has been noted several times on this board that WP states they can't block.

  18. Akismet has protected your site from 291,630 spam comments already. There are 4 comments in your spam queue right now.

    Content
    768 Posts
    14 Pages
    21 Categories
    1,210 Tags

    Discussion
    15,631 Comments
    15,626 Approved
    1 Pending
    4 Spam

    Akismet stats:
    47,651 total spam
    2,178 total ham
    123 missed spam
    18 false positives
    99.72% accuracy rate

  19. notawoodpecker
    Member

    aplantage, anything that is a generic attaboy, like 'Great Site, I've bookmarked it and will return often' without making a specific reference to content within the post, is most likely Spam.

    You'll also learn to recognize them based on the type of email address they're from. They become very obvious after a short time.

  20. "YT gets a lot of comments because you're looking at popular videos."

    I don't doubt that more people prefer to watch vids than read. But the content is the same, so the difference shouldn't be quite as extreme as it is in my case. I think the problem is that if one searches for a topic, the blog entries appear in search engines far down on the list (if at all, even though I have made them searchable).

  21. That's not what I'm saying. I have a video with over a million views, and it has lots of comments. My videos with fewer views have fewer comments. The ratio is in line with that 700/1 ratio.

  22. "That's not what I'm saying."

    I think we mean the same thing. But the ratio is not like that in my case. I not only get fewer views here, but also fewer comments per view. So there are two separate aspects: one is the number of views (which one might be able to influence), and the second is the likelihood of comments (which one probably can't influence).

  23. You can influence the number of comments by increasing the number of views.

  24. "You can influence the number of comments by increasing the number of views."

    I think we all already understood and agreed to that. :-)

    But like I said, I don't want to advertise, or want just people that I know to comment; I wish people would find it when the are interested in something, but the entries don't show up in search engines well enough. I suspect that people go to YouTube and then search there; it seems that they don't do that as much on blogsites.

  25. Youtube is the second biggest search engine in the world.

  26. "Youtube is the second biggest search engine in the world."

    YouTube isn't a search engine, because the search function only searches YouTube itself, not other sites.

  27. @aplantage when i said "Genuine people very rarely comment" i meant that the average person finding a blog through search engines (not on WP) will rarely, if ever, comment, whereas spammers do it constantly through search engines.

  28. "when i said 'Genuine people very rarely comment' i meant that ..."

    I understood that, and I agree. It's nice of you all to comment on this so much :-), but the point seems to be getting lost somehow:

    There seem to be two reasons for few comments:

    1) People who might be interested in the topic don't find the posts.
    2) Few people who find them comment.

    These two reasons are additive (they don't exclude each other). Again, one might be able to influence 1) to some extent, but probably not 2).

  29. Have you tagged the posts with key words that people may use in search in search engines? Or have you got key words in your posts that people may use in search engines? Google don't just bring up tags they also bring up posts that includes the words someone has used in search. You just can't make people comment if they don't want to, it's that simple. I have seen many posts over the years that i have really liked, but i still haven't commented on them. Google index comments, and that puts some people off.

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