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Paragraph breaks?

  1. I'm so new to this and I have two questions, the first is how do I break paragraphs apart, no matter what I do it seems that everything appears clumped together, rather than having a few spaces between paragraphs, secondly if I link this for example,

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/tags.php?tag=links&page=2

    how can I make it so that when it's on the blog, it will only say wordpress or whatever I want to say, rather then all that messy code?

    Any help would be so much appreciated

    thanks,

    max

  2. Here's the answer to your second question:
    http://faq.wordpress.com/2007/07/01/how-to-write-links/

    And as to the first one, recognize that WordPress.com has limitations on formatting which we just have to work around. Spacing between paragraphs is set in your Theme, which you cannot adapt without the paid CSS upgrade and a solid knowledge of CSS. You can switch between themes for free, though.

    If you want a double space, just hit Enter. If you want single space, hold the Shift key down when you hit Enter. If you want more than double spaces, you'll have to get really creative, and it's usually not worth the trouble.

  3. Are you using Safari or Opera? The TinyMCE editor that wordpress uses for writing pages and posts is not fully compatible with Safari and Opera and you will find problems in other areas as well.

    I would suggest downloading the Firefox or Camino browsers to use with wordpress as they are the most compatible with wordpress.

    Firefox: http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/
    Camino: http://caminobrowser.org/

    Alternately, you can go to "my profile" in the upper right of your dashboard and uncheck "use visual rich text editor," click "update profile and then you will be doing all your writing in code view. Some, including myself, find this a little confusing since in addition to the text of your post, you will see all the html code for your formatting.

    Another alternative is to use an offline blog editor. Timethief has rounded up all the most popular editors and listed them on her wordpress resources blog at: http://wpbloggingtips.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/offline-blog-editors-reviews/

  4. LOL, I'm doing it like this....

    Despana

    and it's not working any idea as to what I'm doing wrong?

  5. @mhuesler
    Please post the url for your wordpress.com blog

  6. And if you are not refferring to a blog being free hosted by wordpress.com then do note that this forum is only for those with wordpress.com free hosted blogs. We run on different software that wordpress.org does.

    The forum for self hosting bloggers who have down loaded software from wordpress.org is here -> http://wordpress.org/support/

  7. I am also experiencing a problem with paragraph breaks, but it might be a bit different. My blog URL is http://transbay.wordpress.com

    I just noticed today while writing a post that if I try to start a new paragraph directly after a bit of "involved HTML" (like a table or a list of bullet points), the paragraph break disappears. I tried inserting a break in the post editor, and also tried adding tags in the code editor. The paragraph break appears correctly in the post editor, but completely disappears in the actual published post.

    I've noticed this issue has also extended to older posts and pages. For one example, the paragraph break disappeared after the table on this page:

    http://transbay.wordpress.com/transit-projects/

    This morning, the editor refused to allow a paragraph break after a list of bullet points. I was able to duplicate this effect on two different machines, using both IE7 and the latest version of Firefox.

    Has anyone else experienced this issue? Given that the problem extended to different computers and browsers, it seems like it might be a glitch on WP's end. Thanks for your help!

  8. I have installed WordPress today and started my first post ever, yay!

    I got quickly annoyed by the fact that I cannot specify the number of new lines I want -- even if I follow the instructions that says to do a new line with two spaces -- it just does not work!

    I took 5 minutes of my day to peek in the code and I have made a tweak in it which allows me to have real spacings between each paragraph (but not more). Since I think this is a bug, I guess it will be fixed on a future version so I'm not wasting any more time on this problem.

    At line 71 in file wp-includes/formatting.php (version 2.3.2), replace this line...
    $pee = preg_replace('/\n?(.+?)(?:\n\s*\n|\z)/s', "<p>$1</p>\n", $pee); // make paragraphs, including one at the end
    ... with this new line!
    $pee = preg_replace('/\n/s', '
    ', $pee);

    Make sure you backup your files before attempting this modification!

    NB: In order to have a double-line spacing, you must use shift+enter, using only enter will not work.

    Happy new year folks!
    Frank

  9. Opps!
    In the line to add, I used a BR tag which did a new line.
    In fact, instead of a new line, the character has to be <br /?gt; (I hope HTML entities will work ;-))

  10. It's me again... I did a typo in my last message.
    I'll recopy the line to change instead:
    $pee = preg_replace('/\n?(.+?)(?:\n\s*\n|\z)/s', "<p>$1</p>\n", $pee); // make paragraphs, including one at the end

    Instead use this line:
    $pee = preg_replace('/\n/s', '
    ', $pee);

  11. mynameisfrank, if you installed WordPress you've got a different version than we're using here at WordPress.com. There's a separate forum for independent WP like you're using over at http://www.wordpress.org/support I believe.

  12. I tried break and paragraph tags as well, but no additional line was added in the published post or page. This is still an outstanding issue, but so far it doesn't seem like any other people are experiencing the problem?

  13. @transbay
    Try this on the line below the html (put it in in code view).

    <p> </p>

  14. Thanks, the sacredpath. I actually did try that, but the HTML was eaten up.

    It seems like this problem is specific to my theme (Ocean Mist). I previewed a couple other themes, and didn't notice the problem. I also noted that other blogs using Ocean Mist seemed to have spacing issues with bullet points as well.

  15. Bullet points are typically single-spaced in my experience. That could be changed in with the paid CSS upgrade, but unless you have experience it can be a little daunting. Typically though it will effect all bulleted lists including the sidebars.

  16. The bullet points are themselves single-spaced, but prior to this, there have always been paragraph breaks *after* the bullet points. That is, once you wrap up a list of bullets, there is a paragraph space in the next sentence not in the list. Those paragraph breaks have disappeared, and I have no way of inserting them, because the HTML gets eaten up.

  17. im having a problem like that too. I try to put everything in paragraph format and click save. And after checking out the preview, its still the same. All the pictures and words are either sticking together or theres a big gap between the words. As if like it won change. zzz any one know how to solve my problems?

  18. I'm having the same problem too, paragraph breaks disappear no matter what html I use, it just seems to delete them when I hit "save and keep editing." My old posts are OK, but until this is fixed or someone comes up with a solution, it's preventing me from posting any new posts. Very annoying

  19. In a sort of similar problem I've noticed weird spacing issues in some of my posts if I insert a picture. As an illustration of what happens: Look at how I've typed this sentence. This is what they come out looking like.

    I've played around and usually the culprit is an extra space or lack there of somehwere else in the body of my post that when corrected has the cumulative effect of correcting the erroneous spacing everywhere in the post. Still, sometimes I just can't get it to come out right and give up. I'm not complaining at all - I love wordpress and am very thankful for all that is freely made available to us.

    I've also noticed that if I insert a picture to the left of some text, that if for some reason I remove that picture while editing, the text associated with the picture becomes "center aligned" and I can't get it to "left align" even by clicking on the appropriate button. I've no example to show as I end up deleting such posts. I'm sure it's "user error" (these things always are with me).

  20. Blast - I see it auto-corrected the spacing-between-words example I was trying to illustrate.

  21. kstafford - the theme you chose is using what's known as full justification, meaning that the text is spaced out evenly from left to right margins.

    As for the alignment - in looking at your blog, your pictures are always aligned to the center. Perhaps what is happening is that the centering code is still there, even though the picture has been removed. Take a look at the code editor - you should see that there.

  22. Just for reference in case any of you are using Safari:

    The TinyMCE editor that wordpress uses for writing pages and posts is not fully compatible with Safari and you will find problems in other areas as well.

    I would suggest downloading the Firefox or Camino or Flock browser to use with wordpress as they are the most compatible with wordpress.

    Firefox: http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/
    Camino: http://caminobrowser.org/
    Flock: http://www.flock.com/

    Alternately, you can go to "my profile" in the upper right of your dashboard and uncheck "use visual rich text editor," click "update profile and then you will be doing all your writing in code view. Some, including myself, find this a little confusing since in addition to the text of your post, you will see all the html code for your formatting.

    Another alternative is to use an offline blog editor. Timethief has rounded up all the most popular editors and listed them on her wordpress resources blog at: http://wpbloggingtips.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/offline-blog-editors-reviews/

  23. Unitedcats, that's interesting your old posts are still fine. I only noticed this problem when writing a new post, but it seems that all my older posts (and pages) have also been affected.

    Thesacredpath: thanks for your suggestions. I have actually tried all of the above (except the offline editor) before posting to this forum, and I am still experiencing this difficulty. I use Firefox all the time anyway, but in this case, the behavior of IE7 and Firefox is identical. In addition, code view doesn't present the advantage over the visual rich text editor because the HTML tags are getting eaten up. Once I save the post, it is as if I'm not actually typing in the HTML at all.

    In any case, it doesn't seem like an offline editor should be necessary when I'm all trying to do is insert a paragraph break. This is really basic stuff here. The default used to be to insert such a break after a [/UL] tag anyway, and now those spaces have disappeared all at once. It seems like the issue might be interaction between WP.com and the Ocean Mist theme (possibly a couple other themes, since some other folks have posted on this thread). If that's the case, then I will just have to continue waiting until I hear back from support, who I assume has been taking time off for the holidays.

  24. Thanks Vivianpaige - by the way, that's the name I have saved up for if I ever get blessed with a daughter. I've always loved the name Vivian. :-)

    I think you're right.....I actually went to center-alignment for my pictures due to the problem I was having. Thanks as always for everyone looking into this. We seriously have world-class support on this forum thanks to all of the volunteers. I only wish it was the same when I have to call other companies.

  25. I'm using the Ocean Mist theme, and have also started having the same problems with paragraph spacing in the last week or so (older posts are fine), particularly with no spaces coming after bullet list or pictures. I still need to write posts though, so I'm having to make huge gaps between either and the next paragraph, and it looks very very sloppy. I'd appreciate it if this got fixed ASAP.

  26. Yes, it does look sloppy. I am still experiencing this problem as well -- pictures seem OK, but bullet lists and tables have paragraph breaks disappeared. I just tried to edit this again, but once again, any changes to HTML I make are eaten up, and the paragraph break doesn't register.

    I tried sending an email to the theme creator, and I also sent an email to support several days ago, and I haven't heard back yet, even though we are now well out of the holidays. Does anyone from support have any idea what's going on with this?

  27. i was having a problem making paragraph breaks as well in safari. i switched to firefox and now it's working fine. i couldn't even post this reply in safari. i'll be sticking to firefox from now on for my wordpress blog.

  28. @reflectionlj
    What version of Safari and Mac OS are you using? I now cannot get paragraph breaks to work in Firefox 2.0.0.11, but they now work in Safari 3.0.4 for me (OS X 10.4.11).

    I've tried here and also on my self-hosted blog, and Firefox will not hold the paragraph breaks for me with the visual editor.

  29. Everything seems to be working fine for me now. A big thanks to whomever solved the problem!

  30. For me, I just discovered that the paragraph breaks in Firefox are not showing in the visual editor once you hit save or save and continue, but they do show up when you publish the post. Something is weird.

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