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  1. cogitoergocogitosum
    Member

    Why do my pingbacks go through to people (and myself, my other posts)... but my trackbacks dont? My trackbacks (even to myself) never make it up to my comment screen for accept/reject. My trackbacks are never accepted by other people (for all I know they never get them). But my pingbacks do go through and often are accepted by others?

    The trackback option seems ineffective.

    I use trackbacks only when I dont embed a link within the body of my post.

    Any link I embed when I post my article automatically becomes a pingback. When and if I edit my post later to include a link, the pingback wont work (I think because the article has already been posted).

    As for trackbacks... neither the ones I list during initial posting of the article, nor the ones I add to updates, ever go through.

    The blog I need help with is cogitoergocogitosum.wordpress.com.

  2. thesacredpath
    Staff

    Trackbacks are for legacy systems that do not support pingbacks.

    http://support.wordpress.com/posts/post-trackbacks/
    http://support.wordpress.com/comments/pings/

  3. cogitoergocogitosum
    Member

    Then why do I even have a trackback option on my posting page?

    How do I pingback to people without embedding a link to them in the body of my post?

    How do I pingback to people, in general, when I edit a post that has already been posted?

  4. thesacredpath
    Staff

    For legacy (very old systems) that do not recognize pingbacks. With pingbacks, you need to link to the blog in the post somewhere.

    There is also the possibility that the other system you are trying to pingback/trackback to have their system not to show pingbacks/trackbacks, or not to accept them. Even here at wordpress.COM under setting > discussion you can set your blog to not accept them. Since they come in as comments, the blog owner also has the possibility of moderating them and deciding which they want to approve and which they do not.

    And some people do not want them cluttering up their comments. I don't show them on any of my blogs.

  5. cogitoergocogitosum
    Member

    That seems so cheap. A pingback, as I understand it, IS a comment. Its a comment that takes the form of a link to an entire article response. Thats how I understood its purpose and how Ive been using them.

    You didnt respond to all the questions I had, only whatever bits you felt like. So I shall ask again...

    "How do I pingback to people, in general, when I edit a post that has already been posted?" Is wordpress set up to re-ping every time a post is updated? What do I have to do to get a new ping sent that wasnt sent already?

  6. panaghiotisadam
    Member

    @Volunteers - reminder on this OP's attitude:

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/posting-scheduled-posts-now?replies=8#post-360276

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/pingback-redo-1?replies=4#post-356037

  7. cogitoergocogitosum
    Member

    You want attitude Panag... thanks for the unsolicited attack in this post... douche bag

  8. thesacredpath
    Staff

    WordPress does not re-ping on edits of published posts - at least not in the time I've been here.

    I tried the only thing I could think of (setting a published post, with a link in it, back to draft and then republishing) and was unable to get a re-ping - even with edits to the post.

    Contact staff directly and see what they say is all I can offer.

  9. raincoaster
    Member

    Oh, right, THAT GUY. I remember him.

  10. karafarrah
    Member

    Kind of surprising anyone still replies to cogito's questions, actually.

  11. raincoaster
    Member

    tsp is a notoriously nice guy. Far more courteous than cogito deserves.

  12. tellyworth
    Staff

    How do I pingback to people without embedding a link to them in the body of my post?

    You can't. Pingbacks are only for links present within a post. The spec requires it; see error 0×0011.

    How do I pingback to people, in general, when I edit a post that has already been posted?

    If your edit adds a new link or changes an old one, WordPress will send a new pingback. It won't re-send pingbacks for links that were already present when the post was first published.

    As for the reason, well, you answered that yourself: " A pingback, as I understand it, IS a comment". Sending a comment (pingback) to a bunch of people every time you edit a post would be discourteous at best, so WordPress is designed not to do it.

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