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Still an issue - erroneous   inserted in .entry-title by visual editor

  1. this issue has been reported before, as far back as 2007. it is still a problematic issue when users/clients use the visual editor in wordpress.com (which is from the TinyMCE plug-in), no matter how much i warn them away from using the visual editor. basically, the TinyMCE/Visual Editor in the wp.com dashboard inserts erroneous, not asked for " " (non breaking space character) between the second to last and the last word in the title (css class ".entry-title").

    this has been reported as far back as 2007, in these posts here. it has never been properly fixed or resolved —

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/visual-editor-spaces-changing-to-nbsp?replies=8

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/coraline-theme-randomly-adds-ampnbsp?replies=4

    this causes problems in themes like we use for http://mindfulfitnessmovement.wordpress.com using the “sight” theme on the home page, as it causes the final words to be forced down below the featured pic on a post excerpt, creating an unnatural and not elegant looking break in the line.

    this issue doesn't happen if you compose in the html/text editor alone.

    i have tried getting rid of the " " several times. i have tried, several times, to type just a space in, update or save, and go look at the preview. same issue, the " " is still there. i have tried cutting and pasting a normal space into where the " " is and then saving/updating. still, the " " comes back in the .entry-title.

    this is really, really very annoying. also, in these previous posts, the recommendation was to turn off the visual editor in your user profile options. i have been to the user profile options, settings options, general & writing options — nowhere, any longer, is there any option to turn the visual editor/TinyMCE off. yet nowhere in the wordpress.com documentation does it say that the option to turn off the visual editor is no longer available.

    so there are two bugs that need fixing here —

    1. the option to completely turn off and remove the visual editor must be returned as a writing option.
    2. the visual editor/TinyMCE needs to be fixed so it does not erroneously insert " " where it was not ever requested and cause unwanted line breaks, especially in the title/css- ".entry-title."

    please advise, especially how i file a bug on this specifically for wordpress.com (not wordpress.org).

    best,

    — faddah wolf
    portland, oregon

    The blog I need help with is blog.mindfulfitnessmovement.com.

  2. This has nothing to do with Visual vs Text editor, and I'm sorry to say it's not a bug, it's intentional. See this recent reply of mine:
    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/how-do-i-edit-my-home-page-title-so-that-each-word-is-on-its-own-line?replies=3#post-1201929

  3. that's all supposed to say "nbsp;" with an amperstand in front, but this silly forum removes it or reads at actual html code. grrr...

  4. that makes no sense. if it's internationalization, why is it purposely sticking the "nbsp;" (with ampersand in front) between the second-to-last and the last word of each ".entry-title"? i can understand if wp has a problem with orphan words on the last line in the body of a document paragraphe, but putting it in ".entry-title" is just ridiculous.

    the bugs stand and need to be addressed. to reiterate —

    1. the option to completely turn off and remove the visual editor must be returned as a writing option.
    2. the visual editor/TinyMCE needs to be fixed so it does not erroneously insert " " where it was not ever requested and cause unwanted line breaks, especially in the title/css- ".entry-title."

    this should not be happening in the title/css - ".entry-title".

    — faddah wolf
    portland, oregon

  5. You don't have to reiterate, and I agree with you, but I'm telling you WP doesn't consider it an error. It's an idea of the founder of WP himself: I have him on video, saying how much he hates orphans and joking about his invention with (quote) "I'm that anal".

  6. i've met matt. had drinks with matt. i think matt is great. he's right about orphans at the end of body paragraphs. but not in the ".entry-title" or header titles. the tool should be refined as a scapel, not a bludgeon. this is an error, when it comes to titles/css - ".entry-title" and needs to be fixed.

  7. And I said I agree, so I don't see why you keep repeating the same thing.

  8. The next time you have drinks with Matt, tell him what you just told us.

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