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The new "comments I made" feature is horrible

  1. In 'activities',
    Why
    oh
    why
    would
    I
    want
    to
    see
    only
    my
    own
    disjointed
    out-of-conext
    comments
    rather than a threaded conversation showing what I and the other person have said
    ?

  2. Now the bLogs You May Like is in between every post in my reader? And the spam filter is no longer working. I got 4 spam comments in one day. Hey WordPress, how about bringing back comments I made and fix the glitches instead of ruining my blog?

  3. I was also unsubscribed from this forum for some reason. 3 glitches in one week. Nice.

  4. In 'activities',
    Why
    oh
    why
    would
    I
    want
    to
    see
    only
    my
    own
    disjointed
    out-of-conext
    comments
    rather than a threaded conversation showing what I and the other person have said
    ?

    An excellent question. I have to wonder how this change was considered a viable replacement for "comments I've made."

    Please, WP, bring back the "Comments I've made" on the dashboard, at least until you find a way to solve this problem. You will lose far fewer users if you do, and cut down on our frustration and anger at the changes you are making.

  5. I, too have stopped getting comment notification that I, in no way asked to have happen. (in the forum)

  6. It's been a long time so I thought I'd check to see if they had turned it back on for us, but they didn't. The "comments I've made" link is just a big white empty page now.

  7. I have only just noticed that there is a "Reader" on the .com WordPress. Which version did it come in with?

    I have other blogs self-hosted with .org WordPress. If I upgrade to the latest version of the software, will I get stuck with "Reader" there also?

  8. @artprop
    WordPress.COM and WordPress.ORG are completely separate.

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  10. @timethief

    WordPress.COM and WordPress.ORG are completely separate.

    Yes, I know that. But I was under the impression that the software available from wordpress.org tracks, perhaps with a delay, that made available on wordpress.com.

    Like, for example, the multi-blog upgrade that arrived at .org with version 3.0.0.

    Since Version 3.0, WordPress includes new multisite features, meaning that it can run many blogs, even with their own separate domains, on one WordPress ...

  11. @artpop
    Right. I actually forgot about that. Okay then I'll tag this thread for a definitive answer form Staff.

  12. Yes, I know that. But I was under the impression that the software available from wordpress.org tracks, perhaps with a delay, that made available on wordpress.com. Like, for example, the multi-blog upgrade that arrived at .org with version 3.0.0.

    No, you've got it the other way around.

    WordPress.org is the core software which we track frequently, update here, and add our own things on top of.

    WordPress.com was running a spin-off branch of WordPress.org called WordPress Multi-User (WPMU) long before WPMU was combined with the core WordPress.org branch in WordPress 3.0.

    When WordPress.org makes changes, they arrive here quite quickly. When WordPress.com makes changes, you will probably never see them on WordPress.org.

  13. "Comments I made" really is horrible. Not others, just the ones they say I made. What was I thinking? What was WordPress thinking? Please bury "Comments I made" I do not appreciate them nor do I want to go there.

  14. Can we please have an answer on this, is Comments I've Made coming back? Or at least a "yes it might come back" or "no chance it's coming back"? Aren't we at least owed that?

  15. Can we please have an answer on this, is Comments I've Made coming back? Or at least a "yes it might come back" or "no chance it's coming back"? Aren't we at least owed that?

    Yes, I left this reply 4 days ago: http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/the-new-comments-i-made-feature-is-horrible/page/2?replies=104#post-1176939

  16. @Macmanx thanks, I wasn't sure how to inerpret "little improvements". So I'll assume the Comments I Made might come back in its original form, presumably within the next week or so? Hopefully, so we won't continue to lose touch with our communities.........

  17. Typo. Sorry, using the iPad "keyboard".

  18. Comments I Made won't be back in its original form, but we will make improvements to My Activity based on your constructive feedback.

  19. @macmanx

    No, you've got it the other way around.

    Thanks for that.

    So if I were to upgrade my .org from 2.9.2 to the current 3.5.1, I wouldn't find a "Reader" feature in my admin?

  20. @ macmanx

    Your reply about your non reply smacks me as a very Aquarian thing to do to dodge answering what was asked. That is both funny and then not so much seeing as that I've been trying to get a response from one close to me for two days. sigh

    I understand being told like children who have not read the Secret and thusly do not comprehend how to pretend to make a complaint be a compliment. I find that bunk. If I call a plumber to fix a leak under my sink, and he removes all of the pipes, puts in a bunch of unwanted pipes that take up all of the space under my sink and now spews water from holes meant to be put there in the design, because my plumber felt like being creative. I do not pay the plumber, I do not thank the plumber for making a huge mess. If I have good control upon my tempter and management skills, I say to him exactly what is wrong and exactly what I want to have it made right.

    That being said, there is NOTHING about the shift that remains that functions in the manner that it has. The reader and this new function, visually and neurologically are the same. I get a seizure looking migraine trying to scroll through it. The images and the titles, like in the reader do not follow logical reading paths and separations between posts. (one can't simply tell which image goes with which post nor can I skim along clicking on the titles to straight away get to a blog to over-ride a lack of seeing others' comments by visiting the blog.

    The page lacks function and doesn't allow the right click drop down open in a new tab ability so that I can follow conversations, while also working on other aspects of my blog. There is no way to click directly to view my own blog without having to go to my main blog dashboard and then waiting for the the main page of the blog I wish to visit to load before I can get the drop down right click ability to work and to move within my blogs. Shifting screens all over also makes me very sick and I can't find my way back to what I was doing. I have tried continuing to visit the comments I've made button hoping to visually note some pattern that if a new comment has been made, that blog will move to the top of my list, this has not happened, though the order does shift, which isn't consistent at all. I may have misunderstood the pattern, if I have, please educate me.

    I also have a neurological difference that affects my memory. I cannot remember today what blogs I visited yesterday. I can retain what I said and what those around me said, so that I can be looking forward to a response or a reply.

    The plumber from above smiling and telling me that there will be improvements under my sink, hasn't really told me how he intends to restore my sink to at a minimum, prior functionality, as though it leaked had less leaks and more space.

    Please what is the method so that I can bypass what you choose to call improvements, that I call getting in my way of doing anything besides posting a blog. I will NOT do this by mail, the shifting between screens alone also is like a strobe signal to my brain and I like being able to walk and to talk.

    Another example, let us pretend that Olive Garden, which is to follow standard everything, decides one day to do improvements. They remove the tables, they serve the food from bins straight onto the floor and then hand you empty plates. They smile brightly. I get annoyed and ask to see the manager. He smiles brightly and says, oh well, we will be working on improvements. (uhm how could he not see that not having tables and having food on the floor and wanting everyone to smile and nod over it, thus putting it back IS the improvement?)

    Also, the orange comments button on my page is inconsistent with notifying me of likes of my things and comments made in direct response to something that I said or when someone comments on my blog. I didn't do a thread on it, because it is so inconsistent, hard to catch it being 'wrong'.

    OOO brainstorm, If nothing else changes, I think it would be more beneficial if instead of my own comments--I know what I said, I want to see the answers or responses of others, why not show only the latest or last comment per post? That's mostly what I and it seems others were using to tell if they ought to click a blog open again or not. Also, a see more button at the bottom or something to extend helps. The likes I make take up the number of posts showing so I can't see places where there has been a new comment from something that may have been 'dead' a while.

    It would probably help us to pretend to be starting from scratch in offering suggestions if we knew why it is now being done the new way.

  21. gaudetetheology
    Member

    Chiming in here that the *primary functionality* of the "Comments I've Made" was the ability to monitor activity and read comments left by others in all wordpress.com blogs in which I had commented. It was very easy to skim through, look for comments of interest, and be reminded of conversations that had been quiet for a while and were now re-active.

    My *normal workflow* on the Comments I've Made page was as follows:
    - click on the page
    - skim quickly to see if anything new has been said that I'm interested in.
    - if yes, click on the link back to the blog and re-join the conversation.

    The problem with combining "Posts I Liked" with "Comments I've Made" is that I "like" posts a LOT more often than I make comments. So it's almost impossible to find the comments I made in amongst all those liked posts.

    If the combination into "My Activity" is irrevocable, it would be a good idea to add a button or tab that would allow us to filter "likes" and "comments" to show only one at a time. The Goodreads site does something similar on its discussion feed, where we can select "books", "groups", or "both".

    (I'd attach a screenshot but I don't seem to be able to do that. I uploaded it to my media library instead: http://gaudetetheology.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=2145)

    I'll also note that the notification that lights up to tell me there's a reply, which you might think would adequately satisfy the requirement to be able to monitor conversations I've joined, is insufficent for two reasons:
    - it only lights up for actual replies to my comments. This doesn't let me know about other activity in the comment thread that I might want to know about, and it fails completely for blogs that have non-threaded comments (*which is a very valuable feature to many users* so please don't turn it off).
    - as other commenters have noted, it is not sufficiently reliable. It just doesn't always work, for whatever reason. But even if you got all the bugs out, the first issue would still stand.

    When I first started my blog, I particularly liked this community-building feature of WordPress.com. It made me understand why anybody might want a WordPress account even if they didn't have a blog: because it made it easier to talk to people in the community. I hope you will seriously consider restoring this functionality in some form.

  22. @gaudetetheology
    Well said. Thanks you so much for expressing my own experience and why it's a clumsy one that needs to be addressed by Staff.

    The problem with combining "Posts I Liked" with "Comments I've Made" is that I "like" posts a LOT more often than I make comments. So it's almost impossible to find the comments I made in amongst all those liked posts.

    If the combination into "My Activity" is irrevocable, it would be a good idea to add a button or tab that would allow us to filter "likes" and "comments" to show only one at a time.

    I want the two Posts I Liked" and "Comments I've Made" streams to be separated. I don't want a time wasting mashup to crawl through. I want the ability to view one stream or the other.

  23. So today, I received a comment on my blog, thanking me for my visit and comment. A small problem developed at this point.

    I couldn't find the comment I left, and thus I have no idea what she's talking about.

    At the very least, someone posting on this thread could remove the term "happiness" in connection with the term "engineer" in their handle. It smacks of insult to see that.

    The way I see it, WordPress offers a wonderful blogging platform that they can't stop tweaking with. In this manner, they create something new for the platform, then gather the staff together for a briefing:

    "Okay guys, we're getting ready to dump another change onto our users. Let's all brace for the shit-storm. Someone get that vent thread going so the whole thing can blow over."

    Truth is, WordPress produces bittersweet memories in that, I am able to do things I haven't done before, connect with new people; then these memories become tainted with streams of frustrating-nonsense-platform-behavior of which, most changes I have been able to deal with.

    "Ah, another WordPress shenanigan," I say to myself. It's like some game I have to play with my blog provider, like I'm dealing with a child who keeps playing tricks on me.

    This latest one, though, has me livid. It reduces me to the lowest form of lack of control. I am being told I am a nobody through this behavior, and I have no way of dealing with it, other than to accept it, and to go through the stressful process of trying to adapt.

    It's like something from The Matrix. I "think" I have a say in the forces which control me, but a deeper form of control exists, the reality that I am not in control.

  24. Additionally, thanks to elisasspot and timethief and everyone else who helps me feel like I'm not the only one who thinks about these things.

  25. The moment My activity came to the picture my "Posts I like" are a complete mess.
    Only a small portion of likes appear, then as I scroll down, I see old "comments I made" stuck in the same position for the last 10 days and after that I see "posts I liked" dated 1 1/2 months ago and not in chronological order. Am I the only one here with this problem?
    It's a nightmare...

  26. @gaudetetheology

    When I first started my blog, I particularly liked this community-building feature of WordPress.com. It made me understand why anybody might want a WordPress account even if they didn't have a blog: because it made it easier to talk to people in the community.

    Fascinating. I think they are trying to build WordPress into a competitor to Twitter/Facebook. Good luck with that. Personally, I just use the 2 WordPresses to publish.

  27. Fascinating. I think they are trying to build WordPress into a competitor to Twitter/Facebook. Good luck with that. Personally, I just use the 2 WordPresses to publish.

    In my view the inability to see if any of your comments have been answered removes some of the social element. Now if I leave a comment on another blog, I might check back in a day or so (often not even this, I will forget about it) but I will not see any further responses that often raised an interesting dialogue, sometimes leading to a blog post

  28. Apparently from the 'answer' the unhappiness engineer gave we've made our discontent with the changes not very clear. Let me rephrase my earlier comment so it's harder to misinterpret mr. Macmanx:

    The changes made SUCK. Big time. They are not an improvement, they are a hopeless unredeemable mess.

    The My Activity thingie is useless, and as commenter Elissaspot eloquently put it: "I get a seizure looking migraine trying to scroll through it."

    It's dizzying, it's confusing, it's a mess. Nothing can ever save this. Dump it and start with a clean slate.

    And put Comment's i've made back exactly as it was. It was perfect.

  29. I agree, well said by everyone. The only thing I'd add is I'd like a timeline too. Please? These are my friend's interactions I'm missing out on.

  30. Yes, it's awful. I posted about it Saturday on my blog. WordPress has listened to us before, but a lot of us have to be very loud. Get your blog buddies to comment here in the forums. Post about how awful and useless the "My Activity" feature is. Point out how the changes lead us to do less with WP and blogging, not more.

    Maybe we'll get through to them.

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