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Who blogs in both wordpress.com & wordpress.org?

  1. Anyway have different blogs and use .com & .org? Of course one would have had more than 1 blog to do this.

    How have you found your experiences where you concentrate your effort?

    The blog I need help with is cyclewriteblog.wordpress.com.

  2. I do. I'm not sure what you mean by the second question. I prefer WordPress.com for ease of use, and until very recently it had vastly more SEO.

  3. @maidiebike
    Like raincoaster I'm not clear about what you are asking. I just moved a blog back from a wordpress.org install to wordpress.com. The blog did very well wordpress.com but it never ever recovered the traffic it lost when I moved it to self hosting. I decided to move it back here rather than paying for web hosting as the traffic was so low.

  4. Just a general info. on people's experiences for both.

    I totally agree in terms of ease of use .com is better and actually offers alot of convenient features.

    I'm only using using .org for one of my blogs because:
    a) Because the blog I created will have corporate sponsorship.
    b) Learning purposes -- quite secondary reason. There is some learning and certainly anyone should not try .org until they use .com

  5. I don't require advertising, plugins, or themes I can tweak. That's why I moved my blog back. Aside from that, when one is blogging on wordpress.COM there are no wordpress upgates, plugin updates, theme updates, and backups to cope with. If and when things go wrong at wordpress.COM Staff fix them. Id and when one has a wordpress.ORG blog and things go wrong they are the "fixer" or they have to pay someone else to do the work required. Then we come back in full circle to the fact that wordpress.COM has a "community" and there is a traffic flow from the global tagging pages that's lost when one moves a blog to wordpress.ORG. When you have a wordpress.ORG blog your blog is a like lonely little island.

  6. I find .org frustrating. The forums are a morass in which it's near-impossible to find anything, and if you find a theme you like, 9 times out of 10 it's built by some malevolent porn hacker trying to sneak links onto your site. My current theme is broken and I don't know how to fix it, nor do I have the time to learn theme hacking.

    TT, the "traffic flow from the global tag pages" at WP.com is negligible in my experience; the greatest benefit to the global tag pages used to be the SEO boost from the links back to the blog from each of those pages, but a few months ago staff made all those links NoFollow.

  7. Wait on the NoFollow, really? That sucks.
    I also am using both and for all of those reasons stated above is why my main blog here stays here.
    .ORG is a major learning experience in its own. I've never been able to get any help from the forums over there and I've spent more hours than I care to find out why a plugin is screwed than I have putting content on any blog I have over there. .COM I've always been able to get any help very quickly whether it's been the wonderful volunteers here or contacting staff and it's help that isn't snarky. heehee
    As far as traffic, don't get me started on that load of crud. I recommend .COM over .org in a heartbeat.

  8. I agree with what raincoaster posted above. One could grow old and maybe even pass away while searching for answers at wordpress.ORG. One can wait a very long time before one gets an answer to what they ask on the support forums - not hours or days but ever weeks or months. I never post to that forum at all.

    Moving to wordpress.org blogging is not a waltz in the park that will bring in significant advertising revenue quickly, if at all and if you don't know what you are doing then don't do it!

    WordPress.org blogging requires $. Yes that's right. Like every business person if you expect to earn you must spend first.

    WordPress.org blogging requires increased skill sets as you must manage your site on your own and also requires an increased capacity for dealing with an increase in stress levels related to site management..

    On one hand, if you have the money to purchase a theme there are plenty of professional ones that will give your blog the appearance and functionality you want and will be compatible with the most recent version of wordpress. on the other, many of the free themes are old and have not been updated so they may not work with current wordpress software versions and provide the features and functionality you expect.

    Acquiring a free clean and compatible wordpress.org theme can be like walking through a mine field. Many free themes have hidden links in the theme and/or links to hidden or visible spammy sponsored links in the footers. Other black hat tricks have been integrated in many of them. So if you aren't a coder and most of us aren't, then the theme could be creating backlinks to websites that you wouldn't go near with a 10 foot pole, and you can be totally unaware that this is happening. The result can be your site being de-indexed altogether by Google, Yahoo!, Bing and other search engines.

    Some free themes are actually knock-offs that have been stolen from web designers who have copyrighted their templates and themes. By downloading and using what you think is a free theme from it's original creator when it has actually been thieved by some sleazebag passing it off as his or her own creation you are committing a copyright violation.

    Some plugins are malevolent too (just ask TSP) and can infect and/or bring your whole site down as well as infecting and otherwise affecting your visitors. What's more is that you have to be aware that there are leagues of hackers trying to hack into your site every day. They aim to turn your site unbeknownst to you into a trojan download site or whatever else malicious purpose they come up with.

    Re: wordpress.com global tag page traffic flow being low even negligible, I observe the same thing. I just didn't want to get into another lengthy extended yammer on the SEO advantage of having our posts displayed on wordpress.com global tag pages that have high page ranks and rank so high in the SERPs so I avoided going there. lol :)

  9. I've created my own themes for .org with Artiseer. I run my own website with the .org stuff because it's make life easier with mobile browsing and decent plug-ins.

    I don't use the site as a blog though.

    I also run another site which a gallery of posters and use the .org stuff because unfortunately .com doesn't offer me a theme that shows all the posters as a thumbnail in a grid. It doesn't get the traffic I'd like it to get.

  10. Very interesting, this discussion.
    I appreciate all this insight. It's useful stuff! I'm pretty basic on .org , I use Twenty Ten version there.

    Focus there, remains to be still content. All the bells and whistles cannot cover up thin/lousy content or splog content. The blog itself is a marketing tool to inform people about an upcoming major conference. It will be the first time this particular European organization will have a blog.

    Click throughs don't generate revenue. I doubt our corporate sponsors (who are established and legally registered organizations.... not questionable, virtual/vapour organizations that exist for only 1 thing, pirate other people's stuff/content) would have been naive enough to fall for some marketing shtik from us, on promises of greater product sales based on third party blog click-throughs.

    Blog simply remains a living (meaning content is added) online newsletter with some minor interactivity.

  11. I had until just this week one wordpress. com and one .org blog. Now I have two self-hosted sites with premium themes. Without a doubt wordpress.com was easier, more fun, and less expensive. I was completely dependent on others to help me transfer and set up the new templates and the self-hosting, though I can maintain the sites without outside help.

    I use one site as a website with a blog for my social media consulting business, Content First. The second site is a "personal" blog about Chicago, but I started it to showcase my blogwriting skills for clients, so in effect they are both business sites. I don't seek advertising for my sites, so that wasn't a reason I went to self-hosting. Down the road I may consider moving the Chicago blog back to wordpress, once my business is firmly established and I don't rely on it as much as a promotional tool.

  12. Why do people start blogs on .org? I'm curious. Unless you're a gamer, web designer, or someone who uses Flash a lot, it seems counterproductive.

    For professional clients and businesses I generally recommend .com with the following upgrades:

    No Ads
    Custom Domain + Mapping
    Custom CSS only if they're already working with someone who understands both CSS and WordPress.com

    The SEO benefits, plus ease of use, plus technical support add up to a killer package.

    I only have .org blogs because those are in the celebrity industry, and ad-supported.

  13. I can now officially advise my head is spinning.

    I'm staying right here. Where all the backend stuff is taken care off. I do enough backend stuff in my day job!

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