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Hello,
My blog http://givingupcontrol.wordpress.com/ is being mirrored at http://givingupcontrol.wordprexy.com. Wordprexy is running adds off my blog content. In some cases the Wordprexy entry actually beats out my real blog entry in Google.
Does anyone know what Wordprexy is? Is this a pirate site?
Yea,
Officially complain to Wordpress.com your post above may be enough. And also contact http://givingupcontrol.wordprexy.com and ask them to stop or tell them about your copyrighted material.
Actually the copyright thing is a pretty serious offence in the USA and the punishment is pretty severe if caught.
J
Wordprexy appears to be a wordpress.org install that is exactly mirroring the other wordpress.com. Google and Technorati spiders recognize duplicate content in a negative light. If this is a blogscraper then assert your copyright. Contact the blogger and object to content theft.
There are many threads on blogscrapers in the forum searchbox. Many people are experiencing the same problem but it is not a wordpress.com problem due to rss feeds sploggers are having a rip-off field day. For reference: Here's the link to Lorelle's post on what to do if you do discover someone has been stealing your blog content http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/04/10/what-do-you-do-when-someone-steals-your-content/
"Officially complain to Wordpress.com"
We cannot do anything.
Find their webhost and swamp them with emails / DMCA's.
Thanks Mark,
Noted for future!
J
I have found a thread http://talkingtails.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/what-is-wordprexy/ that implies that Wordprexy is authorized by WordPress. Can this really be true?
I think it means Wordpress.org is the software while a host like Yahoo or whoever is the one hosting it.
mark, I'm unclear what your message (DMCA) means, even after reading the above-mentioned thread. Can you elaborate please?
My blog, with its pre-domain mapping upgrade-url, is mirrored there and up to the minute.
Go here to find more info on wordprexy.com
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=wordprexy.com
They're in Istanbul, Turkey although their domain is registered through Yahoo.
Good luck.
@ellaella
You will find this covered in Lorelle's post I put up the link to above.
The DMCA Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) creates a safe harbor for online service providers (OSPs, including ISPs) against copyright liability if they promptly block access if they receive a notification from a copyright holder or their agent.
DMCA links
http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html
http://www.google.com/dmca.html
http://search.msn.com/docs/siteowner.aspx?t=SEARCH_WEBMASTER_CONC_AboutDMCA.htm
how to do DMCA notifications http://www.seologic.com/faq/dmca-notifications.php
Wordpress.com is not in a position to do anything about this. The onus is on the bloggers to take the steps that Lorelle lays out very clearly in her post(s).
@Julienne: Whilst it is always nice to thank Mark, you need to recognise that the bulk of the heavy lifting in the forum is done by volunteers. I very much doubt if any of your technical requirements are so sophisticated that they couldn't manage. But your card has been marked.
Since they're based in Istanbul, I wonder whether they're mirroring wordpress.com in order to circumvent the Turkish block on the domain. Anyone know whether that block is still in effect?
You are right on wank. Not sure if they are still blocked (think so), but most blogs are being replicated. Examples:
http://raincoaster.wordprexy.com/
http://wank.wordprexy.com/
Just replicating the domains that wordpress.com puts out.
Trent
Thanks all for the info and links. Istanbul puts a whole different slant on it for me. Will do nothing for now.
o/ timethief
@ellaella
thumbs up :)
Here's wordprexy's explanation on the subject.
http://greatfirewallofturkey.com/blog/
- Biyang Hansen
Oops - here is the permalink for their statement
http://www.greatfirewallofturkey.com/blog/bilgi/what-we-are-and-what-we-are-not/
- Biyang
@niyse
Thanks for posting the links. I've been too busy to locate them ...lol :D
I'm posting the disclaimer here for others who read this thread.
Disclaimer: WordPrexy is a WordPress-specific proxy server. It only mirrors the content; it does neither copy nor host any of the actual content found on WordPress.com. WordPrexy.com is not responsible from the material and content found in it’s sites and cannot be held liable for them.
Mark, you could block the access to the wordprexy servers just banning their IPs. It's so hard to do that?
Is anyone making money from that Wordprexy site?
Money? They must be coining it in. :)
they are running ads on the dupe blogs, so they will get come money don't know it could be enough to paid their server....
Can´t we do something through Google AdSense? As much as they would like to think they're not stealing content, well , yes they are. And not only that, they're making a profit out of it (a profit we're not allowed to make in our ORIGINAL sites).
At least Google should do something about it. That's just wrong.
Of course, Wordpress.com is running Adsense on our blogs as well, so I find it hard to get all up in arms about this. It's just another iteration of the same thing...but this one gets around the Great Firewall of Turkey (and, presumably, China).
Google really sucks, they never will move their **** ass. You can send thousands of clicks and send mails and still you will see the ads, thats what i've done with other scrappers and nothing happens.
The best you can do is send a note, asking the close of your dupe blog.. that what I did, and now my blog is done:
Easy. At least wordprexy does what wordpress.com should do.....
My blog's been stolen as well. I found Google to be really good at getting a Chinese blogger to remove the Adsense ads. I can't get them to remove the material though. What do you do - fly to China and ask them nicely?
Thanks for the tip about these wordprexy slimeballs.
jaroche. Thanks for your information, what amout of time you have to wait for the wordprexy.com to remove your site ?
But aren't they doing this to help the Turkish people who can't log in and/or view Wordpress.com blogs? I don't think they're stealing but more so duplicating to help the people there. And if they do run ads, it's more likely to pay for the bandwidth.
I wouldn't go as far as calling wordprexy "slimeballs". Working to make information freely available on the internet is not a bad thing, in my opinion. And they clearly state that they're doing it as a workaround of the turkish blockade. And as long as they're not directly hosting our copyrighted material or claiming it to be in their ownership, there is no direct infringement that way (I think ?).
However! They're making money off of copyrighted material, and that IS illegal, and highly deplorable. They state that it is merely a way to finance the project, but it doesn't change the fact that they're making money from what you and I have created.
This is a clear case of copyright infringement and a violation of intellectual rights. If all (or many) wordpress bloggers joined forces, there might be a case that could be taken to court.
Let's keep this discussion alive, and see if a common opinion on the matter will emerge.
- Biyang Hansen
I have kind of mixed feelings about wordprexy. I understand they wanted to get around the Turkish ban of wp.com, just have to wonder if it was done in the best way possible. I know, kind of vague, but then so are my feelings.
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