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  1. @martinremy

    The No Ads upgrade currently has no effect on this feature.

    Will you please point me to the clause in the ToS that states that WordPress.com does not honor contracts such as this one?

    To eliminate ads on your blog entirely, you can purchase the No-Ads Upgrade. The upgrade is especially attractive and useful to business blogs in order to eliminate any possibility of competitors’ ads displaying on their domains. http://en.support.wordpress.com/no-ads/

  2. @traceyupchurch

    WordPress.com provides a 30-day refund on all of our upgrades except Domain Registrations, Domain Renewals, and Guided Transfers.

    Provided you are logged in under the same username account that purchased the upgrades, you can request a refund yourself directly from the Store section of your Dashboard
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/upgrades/#refunds
    If applicable see also http://en.support.wordpress.com/bundles/#canceling-a-bundle

  3. To me, an ad is paid content from a commercial venture not directly associated with WP.

    This is nothing more than suggesting other free wp.com sites. People are always asking how they can get more reads and the answer is to participate more by going to other wp.com sites.

    Now, if it starts suggesting off-WP sites, that would be something different.

  4. Pricing Model
    Two Pricing Models:
    Ad-Supported (blending Taboola Related Ads):
    In this pricing model the publisher enjoys the Taboola service for free (no setup or monthly service fees) and lets Taboola blend highly-targeted, related ads within the video recommendation widget. No need for creating new real-estate and share in the revenue from that new revenue stream.
    Of course – the publisher keeps 100% of the revenue on all ads sold against the lift in video views generated by Taboola.

    Revenue from Lift (no Share Taboola Related Ads):
    No setup fee, no monthly fee and Taboola does not insert targeted ads as part of the recommenadation list.
    Taboola continuously runs an A/B test by presenting competing discovery algorithms to a small control group of 1% of your users and measuring the lift our product produces over that control group. Publisher pays a share from new revenue earned on video views only attributable directly to Taboola, based upon this measurement. http://www.brightcove.com/en/partners/taboola

  5. @timethief,

    As for "hoping" my comment was related to what martinremy said:

    Any final version will come with more controls.

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/you-might-also-like-pop-up-box?replies=32#post-1089662

    This "feature" won't look very professional on a site that is being done for work. I would appreciate that it can be turned off.

    I haven't personally seen it except for the png link the OP showed but a pop-up is just not pleasing, even on the bottom.

  6. Timethief - As you know I work on ads and wanted to clarify that this related content test is not an ads program. It's unrelated to Taboola or any other ad partners that we work with in WordAds. It recommends only other WordPress.com content, and no one is paying for placement in this feature. I understand you don't like the test but thought it might help to clarify that the purpose of the program is simply to test a means to drive traffic between WordPress.com sites so that everyone might get additional new viewers.

  7. @1tess I understand your point about a business site. If/when we release this feature, there will be a way for a site to opt out.

  8. @martinremy

    Thank you! My boss would thank you too, if she knew about this.

    For my personal blogs, it might be a nice feature if the suggested links are relevant to the topics I write about. Is this not similar to the old way global tags worked? Or how Reader works now?

  9. traceyupchurch
    Member

    @Timethief, thanks, yes, I can get back some.

    @notawoodpecker My main issue is with my non-premium theme which I set up for children. It's not whether I like the pop up or not -- I can't send my readers to random sites. (I've already been diverted to a religious suite and blog marketing site, it's not appropriate.)

    Here's where my creative writing post pop-up box sent me:
    http://narrowmindedproductions.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/poll-video-of-the-year-2012/

    ...and my blog post about school homework sent me here: http://lafleurphoto.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/gifts-of-the-magi/

    ... a pop up on a post about head lice directed me here:
    http://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/looking-for-luck-panini-america-presents-another-knights-lance-scavenger-hunt/

    ...and a post advising on weather conditions and freak waves on a UK beach sent me here:
    http://freefallinginto40.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/the-decision-having-a-3rd-baby/

    So is it OK to subject young readers to random wordpress posts, under the heading "You might also like"?

    Imagine. "Here's a post about the bottom of the sea. (You might also like anal sex.)"
    Could that ever happen?

    Not on my watch.

  10. It's not whether I like the pop up or not -- I can't send my readers to random sites.

    That's why I said it would have to be properly content sensitive so that, in your case, it would only show other children's sites.

  11. @notawoodpecker

    …it would only show other children's sites.

    I think you mean "should only show"
    as gilbrown said:

    Our goal is to gather some data on how well the algorithm works.

    http://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/you-might-also-like-pop-up-box?replies=40#post-1089662
    It's apparent that the algorithm is not yet very well refined.

  12. traceyupchurch
    Member

    @notawoodpecker I don't have an "in the meantime, random posts are OK" clause on my kids' reading.

    On tags etc, no, not the same. Plus they tend to be small (and in some themes, you can hide them -- e.g. the very lovely Portfolio).

    Tags don't pop up. My issues with the button, aside from the randomness of the links, are also the aesthetics and the quality control. They're not ads. We all understand ads -- they're there for commercial reasons and I had WordAds on one blog. But a "you might also like" button is different; it implies a similarity between the content. Even if the links were related, which they're not yet, they're not quality controlled in any way. Do I want my potential post on religion and Christmas to be linked to a church site? A religious nutter? A condemnatory atheist? No.
    Not to mention comments. I like comments, but this little box waits till the reader's right down at the end of the post and then just as they reach the comment form, *up it pops*. Oh hello.

    My latest click sums it up perfectly. I wrote a post on other people's short fictions -- well written stories that I enjoyed and want to share with my readers: http://traceyupchurch.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/other-peoples-shorts/
    *pop* -- YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE this: http://odizzey.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/calculating-insanity-blogaton-blogadda/

  13. traceyupchurch
    Member

    I notice this morning there is a feedback button on the pop-up box. When I first saw it, not knowing what it was, I thought I'd been infected by malicious adware and spent time checking my anti-virus cover and running stinger apps. I also ran different browsers and surfed a lot of websites to find out where it was popping up, and it took me a while to figure out it was a WP tool. During that time, there was no way I would have clicked a link in the box.

    If you want everyone to click on it, you might have to tell them what it is, otherwise the only people who click are going to be the people who recognise it and like it and your results will be biased.

    I love it here on WordPress.com. The themes are great -- a big thumbs up in particular to the Theme Foundry -- and the support (WP and Theme Foundry) is brilliant. I don't really want to go elsewhere, but I can't have that box on my sites. I've disabled my domains to reduce/kill traffic for now, but I need to know whether to set up alternative sites.

    Please can you give me an idea of when the off button will be available?

    Thanks.

  14. And what exactly gets "recommended" when the post content is visual and not verbose?

  15. traceyupchurch
    Member

    A point of interest, my theme's responsive. Unless I max up the screen, the box covers up the WordPress.com footer text and the theme attribution. "Blog at WordPress.com. Theme: Portfolio by The Theme Foundry."

  16. So, it's a couple of weeks since this thread. Any developments on it? Because I DO NOT WANT (and yes, I'm yelling) it on my blogs, particularly not the one that has my artwork as I'm using it as a website.

    I understand it's not 'advertising' in the sense of the stuff that one can apply the 'no ads' upgrade to but it is still advertising other blog posts on other blogs. I do not want people to be sent off to sites other than my own. Please, please ensure that there is an opt out - not just for business sites but for everyone.

  17. This is the artwork sites, so you can see how offensive to me it would be there: http://artbyvalerde.com

    I have the no-ads upgrade. Will I know need to pay for a no-'you might also like' upgrade? I do hope not...

  18. @absurdoldbird this test is no longer running. As I said above, if/when we release this as a feature, there will be a way for sites to opt out.

  19. @martinremy
    If that testing we were not aware of is done then exactly when was it brought to an end please?

    I am asking because I was livid when I saw this on my blog that has a No-Ads upgrade: http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/?attachment_id=17332

    Increasing page views means more income for WordPress.com so "no" I don't accept the it's not commercial advertising interpretation. Any widget plonked onto my blog that drives traffic to any external sites is a form of advertising that increases page views and income.

    1. Are you in a position to promise that my blog at http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com which has a NO-Ads upgrade will not be used in any future experiments like this one?

    Are you in a position to promise that my blog at http://thistimethisspace.com which does not have a NO-Ads upgrade will not be used in any future experiments like this one?

    Thanks, in advance, for your answers.

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