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  • #3340394

    supernovia
    Staff

    Thanks @musicdoc1, and thanks @guitarsophist.

    About the name, Gutenberg is just the project name. When I’m talking to users I try to only use the term Gutenberg if they do, and then it’s just to keep things less confusing. Generally though, it’s called the WordPress Block Editor. So going forward in this thread, we can call it that if it helps.
    https://developer.wordpress.org/block-editor/

    And, the block editor does have a code editor. And I shouldn’t call it an HTML or Text editor because if you start an article in visual mode, you’ll clearly see that the code generated isn’t your typical HTML or text.

    That said, if you /start/ by typing your text there, then switch to Visual, currently you’ll end up with one big classic block. Here’s how to access the code editor:
    https://cloudup.com/csd3Vwe2eic

    Still, personally, if you’re starting in a different plain text editor and pasting, I’d recommend pasting into visual so that you do have separate blocks to work with — once you get used to them they’re actually pretty nice for editing, IMO. Even if you’re mainly writing blog articles.

    And if you use dashes for bullets and what not, it should format nicely, even when pasting directly to visual.

    #3340376

    musicdoc1
    Member

    @supernovia said,

    For now, one thing you can do (and which I would guess will always be available) is switch to text mode.

    In response, @guitarsophist said,

    I am not sure how to get into “text” mode. Is that in Gutenberg?

    and later indicated that he still didn’t know how to get into text mode in Gutenberg, saying:

    I didn’t have the problem you had with multiple blank lines creating a blank block, but maybe this is not the “text” mode you were talking about.

    So these questions posed by @guitarsophist have not been answered:
    1. Is there a text mode in Gutenberg, aka the WordPress Editor, aka the Block Editor?
    2. If there is a text mode in Gutenberg, aka the WordPress Editor, aka the Block Editor, then how do you switch to it.

    #3340363

    The preview failure has happened with one actual post and one test post. Beyond that I don’t know if it is consistent. I only started playing around in Gutenberg a couple of days ago. I have only published one post in it.

    I am trying to keep an open mind about Gutenberg. But, one thing that actually bugs me a lot is that there is already a really cool project Gutenberg that digitizes public domain books and distributes them for free. They have been around since the early days of the web. If you do a search on “Gutenberg” you get stuff on both projects. I think the earlier project has a better claim to the name, both because they were earlier and because they are transferring hard copy printed stuff to a new digital medium, just as Johannes Gutenberg transferred handwritten manuscripts into an easily replicated format. This new Gutenberg that WordPress has developed is not anywhere near as revolutionary as that.

    Thanks for the help.
    John

    #3340306

    Actually, I did try saving a draft, but the preview gave an error message and showed a blank post until I published it. That could be a theme/Gutenberg incompatibility though, I imagine.

    Shouldn’t a caption go below the image? Or is this just a feature of the gallery block? I inserted the urls after clicking on the link icon, and it was definitely asking for a url, not a caption.

    I’ll try them in separate image blocks and see how that works.

    Thanks,
    John

    #3340299

    I tried writing a post in Gutenberg. A couple of things:

    Preview did not work until after I had published the post.

    More importantly, I included a gallery block with three screenshots of student blogs. I tried to link the images to the blog sites, but the urls appear in front of the images instead of being hidden. The links work, but it looks really ugly. How do you link images to urls without this ugly presentation?

    You can see the post here:

    http://textrhet.com/2019/07/16/blogging-in-wordpress/

    Thanks,
    John

    #3339764

    Yeah, I’m getting the message. Learn to love Gutenberg or leave. All the alternatives have expire by dates on them. Resistance is futile. Oh well. It’s been nice for about 10 years. Time flies. Time to move on, one way or another, Gutenberg or not. There are alternatives out there, and I am sure more will spring up. This must be giving you support guys fits.

    Thanks,
    John

    #3339711

    When I closed and then reopened the test post I had written in a classic block, Gutenberg asked if I wanted to convert this “old format” post to blocks. That will be a problem if it does that every single time you reopen a post written in a classic block.

    #3339707

    I pasted what you have above into a classic block. The classic block behaves pretty much like the classic editor. The bullets aren’t converted, because text editors don’t create bullets or other formatting. They are pretty much just ascii. I always have to format bullets in WP. I didn’t have the problem you had with multiple blank lines creating a blank block, but maybe this is not the “text” mode you were talking about.

    As I said, I can learn to live with this, but it is not at all ideal for newbies. One of the big advantages of WP is that one could have a blog up in five minutes. That is why I used it with my students. And even so, some of them struggled. Gutenberg will be a big obstacle for non-techie newbies. If this is really where WP is going, I think you will please part of your professional audience, but turn away the ordinary user.

    #3339698

    supernovia
    Staff

    Totally understood. To clarify my goal: I think we both realize that maintaining two different code bases indefinitely would be difficult and unlikely. If blocks are the future of WordPress — and I think we can both see that they are — I still want to make sure it’s easy for people who, like you, just want to be able to write, or copy and paste easily.

    Quick question: if you type like this in your text editor then paste into Gutenberg, do the bullets convert for you?

    A paragraph about something (or in this case just a line)

    A list heading
    – one point
    — a subpoint
    — another
    – point two
    – point three

    Another line that isn’t a bullet

    Would that work well for you?

    #3339694

    I am not sure how to get into “text” mode. Is that in Gutenberg?

    My experience was that I wrote a page long post in Pluma (a text editor in Linux). I use a text editor because then there will be no formatting codes that will cause problems when I paste into WP. I had a lot of parts I intended to turn into bullets. I forgot that I had been playing with Gutenberg, and it was in that mode when I pasted in my text. All the paragraphs got put into separate blocks. If I converted a block to bullets, the lead in to the bullets became a bullet too, so I would have to create a block above it and copy and paste from the block below. All of this seemed unnecessary and frustrating. I kept looking for formatting choices that used to be in the bar above the post. Now they were all in the popup block menus, and each block type had different choices.

    I finally gave up and switched back to classic.

    I now have a better understanding of how blocks work and I would not be quite so frustrated. I see on twitter that there is already a booming business in designing custom blocks for different purposes. Amazing.

    I think what you are suggesting is that I work mostly in a “classic” block that will behave like the old editor. Perhaps that would be a workaround. Write in Pluma and paste it into a classic block. I could probably learn to live with Gutenberg, but I don’t see any advantage for me in it. And as I noted above, trying to use it in a writing class would turn part of the course into a Gutenberg course. Writing courses are short enough as it is.

    Thanks,
    John

    #3339586

    That is good to hear. By that time there should be other editor plugins and I can migrate to WordPress.org to use them. In the meantime, I have watched some videos on using Gutenberg. I can see that it might be an advantage for some people, especially if you wrote and designed posts in Gutenberg, which is not my workflow. Gutenberg is not conducive to writing in a text editor and pasting stuff in. It adds many formatting steps.

    The other concern I have is for new users. I used to have students in writing courses create a WordPress blog as part of the course. The classic editor works pretty much like a wordprocessor, so they already know how to use it. The set up is quick and easy, and they already know how to use the main tool. Gutenberg, however, is a whole new concept, and not a very intuitive one. I think it would take at least a week to teach it to them and even then some would still be struggling. I will have to redesign these courses. No more WordPress, I think.

    Anyway, things are ok for now. Thanks.

    John

    #3339171

    In reply to: YouTube video

    Hello @liztantoco7141,

    If you would like to add a YouTube video to a post/page using the Classic Editor, you can refer to the following link with more information on the same:

    https://en.support.wordpress.com/videos/youtube/

    If you are using the WordPress Gutenberg Editor (or the new “block editor”), you can embed any YouTube video of choice using the YouTube block to add a video. More on this here:

    https://en.support.wordpress.com/wordpress-editor/blocks/video-block/#adding-a-video

    Hope this helps. All the best.

    #3338975

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hi @impacttravelwellington If you are sure you want to switch back to the Classic Editor, you’ll first want to activate a different theme other than any of the newer “X Business” themes, which were all created to highlight what it’s possible to do with the Gutenberg editor. There are plenty of other beautiful themes for you to activate in your site’s Design>Themes dashboard.

    Once you’ve selected and activated a different theme, open any page or post in the editor and look for the three dots at the far right. Click on it and at the bottom of the list that opens, you should see “switch to Classic Editor”. (temp screenshot)

    Let us know how that goes.

    Just as an aside, if you need support for WordPressdotcom, the best place to start looking is on our Support site. https://en.support.wordpress.com/ Most “googled” results are for the open source WordPress software.

    #3338960

    HELP how do I switch to classic editor!?

    I HATE gutenberg editor it makes no freaking sense…. and I have googled for ages to try to switch back to classic editor but they all tell me to use a plugin which you need to pay $$$$ for a business plan for which i dont want to do.

    HOW DO I SWITCH TO CLASSIC EDITOR ON WORDPRESS.COM? WTHOUT PLUGIN? Thanks

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    #3338251

    shubhamgmath
    Member

    @chhavnish if you are using Gutenberg then please refer to the guide below

    https://en.support.wordpress.com/wordpress-editor/blocks/more-block/

    #3338068

    Topic: Gutenberg Columns

    in forum Support

    I am attempting to place two columns next to each other using Gutenberg. The left column will be a bio picture and the right will be the bio. Each time I attempt to do so the columns show up stacked on top of each other instead of side by side. Do you know why this may be happening?

    #3337334

    tron2one
    Member

    I have a custom metabox for posts which I need to be a date field on the backend for editors.

    My plugin starts with the following code to enqueue jquery:

    
    function load_datepicker() { 
        wp_enqueue_script('jquery-ui-datepicker');
        wp_enqueue_style('jquery-style', 'https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1.12.1/themes/smoothness/jquery-ui.css');
    }
    add_action( 'admin_enqueue_scripts', 'load_datepicker' );
    

    But it does not work – my field shows up but the datepicker does not show when you click on it.

    However, if I activate the classic editor plugin my code works perfectly.

    What do I need to change to make this work in gutenberg (without the classic editor plugin)?

    #3334988

    My website not work after update plugin Gutenberg and I can’t repair because Recovery Mode not working ( New email with links do not come). Please help me

    #3334164

    lifestuff1
    Member

    Ultimate addons for gutenberg requires pho version 5.6+ , plugin is currently not running. How do I fix this

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