Advertisement positioning

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  • #3052435

    writerpsyche
    Member

    I understand that the free version of WordPress includes advertisements. This is not a problem for me when the two advertisements are side by side within a post. However, I noticed tonight that the two advertisements are now aligned vertically, instead of side by side. This stretches the space of the blog post downward to a severe extent. The bottom advertisement is actually overlapping some of my post data, such as the listed tags for the post. I looked at some other blogs, and it is even worse, with the bottom advertisement crossing into the next post and overlapping it. This really looks bad, since the advertisements look like some kind of spam overtaking the web site.

    As I said, I have no issue with there being a couple of advertisements on my blog, especially since I’m using your service for free and it is a great value to me. I love WordPress. However, those advertisements should be subtle and take up minimal space, rather than splitting apart the post into two pieces (the post data should immediately follow the article content, not the advertisement), stretching the post frame enormously, and overlapping the post data or next post. It just looks really bad for the blog owner, and I don’t think many people will click on advertisements that are breaking the page, out of fear that something is not quite right with them. Thus, I think it is in everyone’s best interest to fix this.

    I realize that one can pay to have the advertisements removed, but to do that because of a structural problem is unfortunate, especially for people with a limited budget. I think that this formatting problem is mainly a problem for fixed width themes, but many people use those. My suggestion is to either limit the advertising to just one image or banner, or separate the two advertisements between two different posts, or just place them side by side at the bottom or top of the page.

    Thank you in advance for any feedback

    The blog I need help with is davidrubin.wordpress.com.

    #3052555

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hi there, please make a screenshot of what you are seeing and upload it to your site’s Media Library. Then tag this thread for Staff attention by adding the MODLOOK tag to the Tags section of this forum thread’s sidebar.

    Also, please be aware that the theme you are using, Twenty Ten, has been retired. As such, it will no longer be updated to fix bug issues or include WordPressdotcom’s latest features. Additionally, themes that do not resize the content to fit the screen size of the device it is being viewed on are penalized by search engines in an ever increasingly mobile world. If you would like suggestions on possible alternatives to Twenty Ten, let us know.

    #3052563

    I DON’T think this is intentional (to make us upgrade to ad-free or so), because the overlapping occurs mainly in Microsoft browsers, both Edge and IE, but it does so across themes, including Twenty Sixteen:
    https://michaelmeiser.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/aderrorms1.jpg
    https://michaelmeiser.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/aderrorms2.jpg

    The vertical alignment works without errors in Vivaldi:
    https://michaelmeiser.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/noaderrorvivaldi.jpg

    Unfortunately, my Firefox installation generally blocks ads, so I can’t tell what it’s like in FF.

    #3052609

    Firefox on my wife’s computer doesn’t block ads: NO overlapping!

    #3052616

    writerpsyche
    Member

    Michael, I don’t think this problem is intentional. I was not suggesting that. However, these double block ads break some themes, especially the fixed width themes. And as you are pointing out, the problem is probably worse on certain browsers, as that is usually always an issue with web design…trying to render a page consistently across various browsers.

    I’m wondering if the ads are lining up vertically because of a theme issue, or they are setup to be that way? If they are designed that way, then they will take up too much vertical space, regardless of what theme I choose. They should be rendered horizontally to make efficient use of the space and be viewer friendly. In the past, the ads were rendered side by side, in my current theme as well. I’m hoping this is just an issue with the current set of ads on my page. Also, the ads really should not be placed between the post content and post data (tags and categories), since that causes potential viewer confusion. It looks like the tags and categories are related to the advertisements, not my article.

    Jennifer, I replaced my previous theme with the Twenty Ten theme just about 3 weeks ago. So, the theme must have been retired quite recently. If there are other themes that will cause the search engine and compatibility problems you mentioned, then they should be removed from the selection list, before anyone spends too much time organizing their blog around one of those themes. As you requested, I’ve uploaded a screen image of the problem to my media library, just so the technical staff can take a look at the current alignment of the two advertisements. It should not look that way, even if there is no overlap. They have not aligned that way in the past, neither on my old theme or the Twenty Ten theme. Also, as the image shows, the bottom advertisement is only showing programming code now, so something is not right with this. I’m using the Chrome browser by the way, since my computer is a Chromebook. It looks the same on my mobile phone as well.

    Anyway, I will take you up on your offer to suggest themes without these issues. Are there any “free” themes that look similar to Twenty Ten, but don’t have the resizing issue?

    Thank you for your help,
    David

    #3052617

    writerpsyche
    Member

    I forgot to provide the link to the image in my media library, but Michael’s links in this discussion clearly show the alignment issue.

    #3052634

    writerpsyche
    Member

    Is there a “soon to be retired” list of themes?

    To go through the process of selecting and adjusting to a new theme, but discover 3 weeks later that it has been declared obsolete and unsupported, is very frustrating.

    I’m looking at the Twenty Eleven theme to replace my now retired Twenty Ten theme that I just installed 3 weeks ago. Is Twenty Eleven on a “soon to be retired” list too, or will this theme be supported for at least a few more years?

    #3052639

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Hello again @writerpsyche, I understand your frustration having recently switched to Twenty Ten. Unfortunately I am afraid there is no such soon to be retired list available. I was a bit surprised too because the Twenties (10, 11, etc.) were/are the default themes for standalone WP releases. Regardless, the web moves forward and fixed width themes are the likely candidates for early retirement.

    Let’s wait for Staff to reply regarding the ad placement before anything else.

    @michaelmeiser thanks for providing screen shots. What device are you viewing on? The screen resolution may be the key here. I’ve also uploaded a screenshot from my PC/Chrome62, which does show some minor overlapping on writerpsyche’s site. (temp screenshot)

    #3052658

    I made the screenshots on my Win 10 Home notebook, with regular screen resolution of 1600 x 900.
    I’ve tested plathnicole.wordpress,com (my wife’s blog), theme: Twenty Sixteen, on my Android 6 smartphone, res.: 720 x 1.280: No overlapping neither in Samsung Internet, Firefox, nor Chrome.
    I’m grateful for everything free on wordpress.com, but this isn’t the first time I notice quirky things, particularly in MS browsers…

    #3052674

    kokkieh
    Staff

    Hi there,

    I can’t find any info on whether we recently changed something regarding the layout of ads regarding horizontal vs vertical, but I’ll check in with someone from our ads team tomorrow when they’re working again to find out.

    There should not be any overlap, however, regardless of the layout. I don’t see any overlap in either Firefox or Chrome on Mac, on either of your sites, but I’m making a note to check in Chrome and IE on Windows once I’m near my PC. Once I can confirm, I can report it to our ads team to take a look.

    Also, the ads really should not be placed between the post content and post data (tags and categories), since that causes potential viewer confusion. It looks like the tags and categories are related to the advertisements, not my article.

    This is by design and where ads have always displayed on WordPress.com – after the content, but before the post meta-data and comments. WordAds ads, where site owners share in the revenue from ads, also display in the same position. You can change that positioning using custom CSS, but that’s not something our ads team is going to move.

    Is Twenty Eleven on a “soon to be retired” list too, or will this theme be supported for at least a few more years?

    I was a bit surprised too because the Twenties (10, 11, etc.) were/are the default themes for standalone WP releases. Regardless, the web moves forward and fixed width themes are the likely candidates for early retirement

    Twenty Ten has been running on WordPress.com since April 2010. At over 8 years old and as it’s a non-responsive theme, the decision was finally made to retire it two weeks ago. However, there are no plans at this stage to retire Twenty-Eleven, as that theme is fully responsive and supports all features currently available on WordPress.com.

    If you’re looking for something that looks similar to Twenty Ten, have a look at last year’s default theme, Twenty Sixteen:

    https://wordpress.com/theme/twentysixteen

    Also, as the image shows, the bottom advertisement is only showing programming code now, so something is not right with this

    That ad is actually supposed to look like that – that particular ad is one we use to recruit programmers, and it actually displays pseudo-code saying programmers wanted.

    #3052689

    writerpsyche
    Member

    Thank you Kokkieh and Jennifer for the information. I will try either the Twenty-Eleven or Twenty-Sixteen themes.

    If the change from horizontal to vertical ad positioning is by design, then I hope they will consider changing it back to the horizontal. Vertically, it takes up way too much space and splits apart the post to a severe degree. Simply stated, it looks really bad that way and it is viewer unfriendly. The ads should not take up more space than the actual post. Just my opinion.

    #3052714

    kokkieh
    Staff

    I’ve reported the matter to our ads team. I’ve also confirmed the overlapping issue in Internet Explorer and have reported that as well. I’ll let you know in this thread once I hear back from our ads team.

    #3052746

    chicayara
    Member

    Hello,

    Advertisements on my wordpress website now do also overlap my own text. It’s very irritating and yes, it looks as if the site has been hacked or something. I use windows 10.

    #3052754

    amylaneio
    Member

    Hi @writerpsyche @michaelmeiser @chicayara!

    I just spoke with our Ads team, and they’ve fixed a glitch that was causing the ads to display vertically and overlap other content.

    Some themes with narrow content areas will still display the ads vertically, but they shouldn’t overlap any of the other content anymore.

    If you’re still seeing the overlap, make sure your browser is loading the latest version of your site by clearing its cache. We have some information on how to do that here:

    https://en.support.wordpress.com/browser-issues/#clearing-your-browser-cache

    If you have any more questions, please let us know!

    #3052769

    writerpsyche
    Member

    Hi @amylaneio,

    Thank you for fixing the glitch so quickly. It looks a lot better now!

    #3052785

    chicayara
    Member

    Thank you Amylaneio, problem seems to be solved :-)

    #3052790

    kokkieh
    Staff

    Thanks for confirming, @writerpsyche and @chicayara

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