Askimet numbers increase but shows no new spam

  • @DrMike:

    WHAT?!?!? How do you know this? The spam numbers are different in each blog, so i assumed the spam file would be different. That is a major issue/oversight as far as i’m concerned.

  • Actually it looks like it was fixed. Was doing it when I noticed it a few days ago though. I just cleared out the webcomic which is blog #2 here but it left the spam in the main blog. Maybe it’s when you delete all from the main blog.

  • Sorry for my english and also because I didn’t read the four pages…. But, is it possible to see what is considered as spam? A friend of mine said he left several comments on my blog but I never saw it…. ??? How can I check the spams?

  • Go to…

    Dashboard – Comments – Akismet Spam

  • @lilouamontreal
    /nod to katm
    If you do not find them (note it takes a few days for some to show up) then use this to report http://akismet.com/contact/

  • I don’t see the point in raising a feedback issue with askimet. The solution is for wordpress.com to allow us bloggers to deactivate askimet. Askimet has done nothing good for my blog, and I don’t even know how much damage it has done because it covers its tracks. I’d rather delete 100 spams manually in moderation than lose one good comment. Today askimet even blocked my own comments on my own blog. Maybe if WordPress gives us the option of deactivating askimet then askimet will get the real feedback it needs, in the form of deactivation statistics. Maybe then they’ll come to us for feedback instead of just putting up a form which they seem to ignore. For now, though, I just feel like a hostage to the decisions of the WordPress engineering team, and not for the first time.

  • Is Akismet still autodeleting the comments that go to your spam? People sent in their feedbacks and it was my impression that Akismet got fixed so you could see and un-spam the legitimate comments.

    If you are still unable to see your Spam, send in a feedback on Monday because they may have to fix it manually for your individual blog.

  • Okay, maybe I missed where this was discussed in this thread, but I started reading it based on the title: Akismet numbers increase but shows no new spam. Where was that covered? I saw a couple of posts touch on it, but most everything started talking about blocking comments on old posts, or how WP should give us more options on Akismet.

    My problem is that I’ll watch the spam count go up, with nothing in the queue. Maybe by 5-10 per day, never really counted, just caught that it was higher than the last time I’d checked. Then after about a week or so of that, I get flooded with spam comments to go through.

    It’s really aggravating, because I don’t get many comments, and I don’t want to take the chance that I’ll clear out a question or something someone legitimately posted — even if it isn’t something I’d like to read. But today, for example, within a space of two hours I went from an empty queue to having 206 comments to sort through. I can sift through 20 or thirty at a time, no problem, and that’s about how much it looks like I should have to sift through on any given day. But 200+? It’d be fine if I was getting that much traffic; I’d deal with that as I needed to. But I’d rather not have to do it just because there’s a caching issue or some other bug.

    If there’s some setting I’m missing, by all means let me know. I won’t say I know what I’m doing, but this doesn’t seem like something I should’ve been able to mess up…

  • Weekends are when the spammers really go wild, mostly catching up on their weekly spam quotas. I dont’ think that’s a caching issue: I think that’s just what the spammers are doing.

    If you’re getting that many in an hour, ask yourself how many regular comments you’d get in an hour…check to see if any legitimate comments got posted, and if they are more or less equivalent, I’d just delete all the spam queue.

    If, however, comments aren’t showing in your spam queue at all, that’s something that was fixed some time back (which is why this thread went off-topic!) and if it’s still happening to you that’s a bug, so send a Feedback on Monday.

  • That’s the strange thing — I’m not getting that many in an hour. There wasn’t a jump, just one time I checked it, it said Akismet had blocked 522 spam, nothing on the queue. The next time I checked it, just a couple of hours later, it still only had blocked 522 spam, but I had 206 to review.

    I can understand a cache issue that maybe keeps it for a day, that’d make sense. If it jumped maybe 50 yesterday and then another 50 today, then I come to the queue tonight to 100 to review. That’d make sense. But it doesn’t jump that much in a day; like I said, it jumps maybe 10 at most. Some days there’s no change in what it reports. And it isn’t just a day’s worth, either — it’s been probably a week or two since I had anything in the queue.

    That also leads me to believe it isn’t an issue with the 30-day-old spam deletion that was mentioned earlier. If it was chucking them out completely, why would I get anything off of the queue at all? Why the delay? I imagine I’d just be sitting there thinking “oh well, those are gone, great.” I wouldn’t think that they’d ever appear at all. (I’m also not terribly thrilled to find out about the 30 day thing either, that someone might comment on an older post and I’ll never know just because they said something about a casino or had two links in their comment. Now I need to go back and disable comments altogether on all my old posts. Not a big enough deal to really gripe about, but a minor nuisance…)

  • No, I believe they stopped that autodelete thing because of complaints. Now the spam comments on old posts go into the spam queue along with all the others.

    I find that spammers favour particular threads, and they re-post to those threads over and over rather than look for others, so if you find a spam post on an old thread, close comments on that one (because they’ll be back) but no need to do the whole blog.

    Katm has also reported the lag time, and nobody seems to know what causes it. Sorry, I was just misinterpreting what you said there.

  • No, I believe they stopped that autodelete thing because of complaints

    Mark did confirm that it had been removed.

  • where did they announce the autodelete thing?

    does that mean i have to manually delete the 1000+ spam in my akismet folder now?

  • No, we’re talkign about the autodelete thingie where if a comment was labeled spam on a post dated more than 30 days old, it was autodeleted without placing it in the queue. That “feature” was removed. (It’s an option over at the Site That Must Not Be Named in case you’re interested)

    The autodelete spam after 15 days is still there, both here and you know where.

  • ah that’s a relief to hear! i just don’t want to deal with my spam.

  • I didn’t see any announcement regarding the 30 autodelete being turned off.
    What I witnessed is a very tiny vocal minority kicking up a fuss on the forum based on the speculation that someone might leave a meaningful comment on a post older than 30 days. And you can bet your last dollar that I’m royally pissed about the way that very useful feature was turned off on all our blogs just to appease them. Then I went into my blogs and closed comments on old posts just like engtech did and, with the same wonderful results — a huge reduction in spam.

  • That’s different though. When you closed off those posts to comments, you were stopping all comments, good and bad. With the autodelete on the 30 day old posts, there was no second chance to see if comments were marked correctly as spam or not. And we know Akismet isn’t perfect. It does mark correct comments as spam. There’s tons of threads on that here in teh forums.

  • @drmike
    I know how the auto-delete feature worked and I was delighted it had been introduced with the Akismet upgrade. But, due to the caterwauling of a tiny flipping minority I had to spend days manually shutting off comments on posts over 30 days old — post by flipping post. I still firmly believe that the likelihood of anyone receiving meaningful comments on posts that are over 30 days stale-dated is very low.

  • I sent a message to Akismet.
    Katm, I know where to go on the dashboard, thanks… The problem is, I sent a email a few days ago to a lot of friends, asking them to come on my blog sometimes. And a lot of them left comments, I saw none of them… And Akismet said I had 60 spams… Or usually I have one or two per day. And I am not able to see what is considered as a spam… Frustrating!

  • @lilouamontreal
    This is where to report http://akismet.com/contact/
    As you state that know some of the people who left comments this is good news. You can include these friends’ email addresses when you report so that staff have something to use to trace the missing comments.

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