Blogroll appears in a reversed order of ranking incorrectly

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  • #968998

    For the past several weeks now (that I’ve noticed) my “Links” widget has been ordering my blogroll, which I chose to “Sort by: Link Rating” in REVERSE order of my ratings.

    All of the Links have been rated and the widget appeared fine on my pages for months, so this problem is a new one.

    Anyone else notice this? Is it a glitch? Can I fix it? Is it possible that I changed some default I’m not aware of?

    Thank you very much for your kind response.

    (Would you kindly respond only if you have a suggestion for a solution from experience or training?

    Please don’t respond if you wish to inform me that you think that this isn’t really a problem and I’m imagining it.

    Please don’t assume that I don’t know how to operate this widget and try to lead me through steps I’m already familiar with. Thank you for not wasting my time.

    No offense, but can we keep these forums professional, calm, empathetic, our reponses well-thought out and not off-hand or badgering, trying not to inflate the stress level of worried questioners?)

    I’ve read this (without finding a resolution):
    “Support – Widgets & Sidebars – Widgets » Links Widget”
    at http://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/links-widget/
    Blog url: http://cathicarolblog.wordpress.com/

    The blog I need help with is cathicarolblog.wordpress.com.

    #969107

    P.S. – my “blogroll” is called “Recommended Websites”.

    “Paul Krugman” is supposed to be at the top. “F*** You, Penguin” is supposed to be at the bottom. The order is reversed (on my computer). It was correctly ordered originally.

    I’ve fiddled with the widget, checking an unchecking defaults, but haven’t yet managed to make the widget show the blogroll in the correct order, that is, by my ranking.

    Thanks again for your help, if you have a suggestion, or for forwarding this question to a WP professional, if you can.

    #969108

    timethief
    Member

    This is a peer support forum and we have no means of transferring this to Staff. We can only flag the threads for their attention and this thread has been flagged.

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    #969128

    How do you “flag” threads for the staff’s attention? Curious. Is it an endowed function or can anyone do it? Thanks.

    #969129

    Oh, thanks for doing that, by the way.

    #969131

    ardpete
    Member

    Anyone can do it, you just type “modlook” into the tag section.

    #969133

    timethief
    Member

    @cathicarolblog
    You’re welcome.

    #969307

    Is a staffperson there, please?

    #969308

    macmanx
    Staff

    It’s working as designed.

    When sorting by rating, the links go from highest rating to lowest, and 10 is the highest rating.

    In your widget, the 10s are at the top, followed by the 9s, and so on.

    #969309

    @macmanx

    Ohhhh. I believe you, but …. are you sure?

    The links in my blogroll widget *were* ordered “ordinally” (rankings “1” listed first, rankings “2” listed next, and so on.), for a long, long time.

    The switch happened later.

    Any thoughts? Thanks.

    #969310

    macmanx
    Staff

    I’m not sure why it would have been the opposite before. 10 has always been the highest ranking. Think of it as 10 out of 10 stars.

    #969311

    @macmanx OK, I believe you and I’ll reorder my list (again) *whimper*.

    I was trying to figure it out after I wrote you back. I guess when I thought of numbered ratings (“a rating from 1-10” – http://en.support.wordpress.com/blogroll/add-a-blogroll-link/) I thought of them as “This is my first favorite, this is my second favorite, etc.”

    And, I figured (as you subsequently wrote), another kind of rating is the “amount of stars” rating. There, 10 “stars” would be “higher” than 9 “stars” and so on. So, I get it.

    Thanks much! ;)

    #969312

    macmanx
    Staff

    You’re welcome!

    #969313

    ingridcc
    Member

    This ordering has most definitely been switched! #1 was always first in the listed links up to a month or so ago, then suddenly everything flipped and #1 was last!
    At that time I posted a query in the “widgits” forum on this.
    I and a few others in that thread never received an answer, and finally I gave up waiting and reordered my links.

    #969314

    @ingridcc / cc: @macmanx

    Re: “This ordering has most definitely been switched! #1 was always first in the listed links up to a month or so ago, then suddenly everything flipped and #1 was last!

    “At that time I posted a query in the “widgits” forum on this.

    “I and a few others in that thread never received an answer, and finally I gave up waiting and reordered my links.”

    Thank you ingridcc. I know. This issue should have been investigated by an engineer when I (and others, like you) brought it up. Apparently we are not being believed.

    The answer was denial that something has changed, and the issue has gone into the nowhere bin. That happens a lot with these types of questions: “It was always that way!”

    Getting an answer on the WP forums is so hit or miss, and you get so much abuse just for asking (especially from one particular frequent user whose is so powermad she badgers and insults more often than she is civil), I’m afraid to use it.

    I never use forums elsewhere for these reasons, but WordPress has forced these problems on us no-payers.

    #969315

    ingridcc
    Member

    Well, I wish I had been answered by staff at the time, but I am very appreciative of all the regular forum helpers, myself…They take on a huge no. of queries and send so many people in the right direction, that I really do not take it personally if their quick and usually helpful answers sound brusque or if they use standard form-letter answers for questions that get asked again and again…Most forums I’ve been on don’t have this level of dedicated volunteer help, esp for this volume of questions! I think they are totally “overworked” (without getting paid) right now, because some regulars have backed off after recent unhappinesses with wp staff…I know it can be frustrating sometimes esp if you already know the reference the volunteer is giving! It doesn’t mean they think we’re idiots, it’s just the first obvious answer to give that might well solve the problem…

    #969316

    @ingridcc / cc: @macmanx

    I’m glad you have had positive experiences.

    I had hoped that using (that is, being forced to use) the WP forums would be a positive experience, but no such luck, due to one very active person in particular, as I have noted.

    I don’t ask technical questions or report errors to be condescended to and badgered inappropriately by non-WP staff who have very little technical expertise to begin with and are often wrong in their answers to end with.

    It’s embarrassing to be treated so rudely.

    It’s just as embarrassing, and it takes me just as aback, to read the same horrible pseudo-superior badgering from the same person to other people on this forum.

    Because of this, I avoid this forum. I don’t mind someone being wrong. I do mind rudeness.

    The victims of abuse on this forum seem generally to go silent, as I have in the past, but I can’t seem to escape this one particular abuser and I don’t seem to receive answers from staff unless I reply to her.

    So it’s a trap. Perhaps the WP staff isn’t aware of this. Because the WP staff can’t be reached any other way, I’m saying something here.

    By the way, I have no interest in being told that my experiences have been misperceived. Victim-discrediting and victim-blaming don’t make any sense to me. They shouldn’t to anyone.

    I find the enabling and support of abuse horrendous. So my statement stands (except with “who” instead of the typo “whose”).

    #969328

    tpr2wp
    Member

    Just piping in to say I used the link rating system tonight for the first time, so as to force them into the order I wanted; & my brain works like the OP, ie, 1 at the top, 2 comes after 1, 3 comes after 2, etc., or, as numbers NORMALLY look:
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    So why it is set up backwards I have no idea. Whattapain. Now have to re-do them all. How about getting rid of “RATING” links (10-1) & call it “NUMBERING” your links to put them in order & have it function the way people actually think (1-10). (Who cares about “rating” links anyway. NUMBERING links is more necessary. “Ratings” is secondary in the realm of “Efficiency.”)

    (Geeks & Techies who set up these behind-the-scenes things don’t seem to “think” like everybody else, I’ve noticed over the years across the entire Internet.)

    #969329

    Thank you, tpr2wp.

    And that is an excellent suggestion. Calling the blogroll’s numbering system “Ratings” is confusing, since one of the intended purposes of “rating” the links is to order them numerically.

    It would be nice to be able to order one’s Favorite Links precisely. I had accomplished that, actually, by massaging the ratings by keeping the second tier ordering, alphabetical order, in mind. That took me quite a bit of time over several years; I worked hard at it.

    (That there are only 10 designations was always inefficient and troublesome, to me, who wished a precise ordering system. If the assigned numbers are to be considered “stars”, “starring” your favorite links is not very useful.)

    So the larger problem for me still is that the order of the links *reversed* a few weeks ago without warning; where originally a rating of “10” would put a link at the bottom of the list now it puts it at the top.

    I’m afraid that I tend to think, still, rightly or wrongly, that there is, or was, a glitch in the WP system – or that a change in website configuration occurred without warning users – that caused this switch, rather than that my memory is faulty. (Like Dennis Miller used to say, though, I could be wrong.)

    If I take macmanx’s word for it that it has always been this way, or at least is supposed to be this way, I will have to reorder all of my links after several years of them appearing the way I originally intended. Going through that again is something I have little desire to prioritize. It makes me want to groan.

    What if, in the future, the glitch is investigated, fixed, or explained by someone at else WP, say, an engineer? Then I may have to do all this hard work a third time. Not anxious to do that.

    Thank you again for your feedback, and for your great suggestion.

    #969330

    timethief
    Member

    G’day to you,
    I have flagged this thread for Staff attention.

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