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Details on PressRow replacement, Pilcrow

  1. longshotsblues
    Member

    If you're using custom CSS with PressRow we've made a short list of some of the differences between the two themes that might affect your styles.

    I have absolutely no idea to what any of this defines. I've got a picture of my own as the Header. So I take it it's going to disappear? I won't like that at all since on my About Me tab I refer to that picture because it is where I worked all my life and ties in to half of what I write about. All I know anytime I've came to these forums about anything I get attacked by the same individuals with sarcasm.

    I will be happy if the editation becomes easier. Because I find this the most time consuming aggravating thing on my Blog. Sometimes I can lay down a blog in 20 minutes, but it takes 4 hours to edit it the way you want it. Between Visual and HTML it's a nightmare.

    I know how to sign in and write, I'm no computer whiz. Whatever changes come it can't be anymore confusing than wondering why you can't edit how you want things on your blog. Or can it?

  2. Buongiorno everyone.
    Sorry for my English, but I am Italian:)

    1) I tried to switch and it appears as always, that means that the layout dose not seem changed. The only difference is an "error", I hope, in charachter of Most Recent Articles: it is little, black instead grey and so on.

    2) I did not try to check the performancy (widget and so on), but I will do it as soon as possible.

    3) Is it possible with Pilcrow to introduce an automatically translator? As GoogleTranslator, or WordPress has his own?

    4) If I have good understood, it will change automatically in 2 weeks, I don't have to do anything. Is it correct?

    Thank you for your attention.
    Monica

  3. Can hardly notice the difference...but...my WP blog is mainly photographs and I notice there is now no border down the right hand side of the pictures I blog directly from Flickr (all but my most recent post). Can this be fixed?

  4. wevelostcontrol
    Member

    As finepixtrix I run a WPblog and the same problem comes up. Even worst, there are some large pictures on it, & when I switched to the new theme they got squezzed. It is gonna be fixd?

    Thanks for your help

  5. thehighheeltimes
    Member

    It's been 16 hours since I've first seen the news about the change, but I didn't have the time to check out the details.
    I'm not sure what you've improved since then (I've read all the comments by horrified users) but I did not experience any major problems after activating the new theme. Embedded videos are okay, and it only took like 5 seconds to put the search box back to were it belongs. The only issue I saw is that pictures in the sidebar had to be resized (30 px smaller), but this "challenge" took no more than a minute. Everything else is alright so far.

    It was a smooth transition, I did not expect it to be this simple.

    Cheers!

  6. TO: PressRow luvers -unhappy
    I've been using PressRow since about 2 hours after it went up--
    4 1/2 years(?), luv it more than you, get compliments and
    my tweaks better than yours, lol! I'm usually first one
    to complain about fixing the unbroken, But:
    1. Would you like to Pay to have PressRow?
    Just a BIT of Forum "search" would have gotten you 'heads up'
    PressRow was going to be changed --I got several weeks ago
    2. The good peeps who do most of the Forum replies gave partial reason
    with links; such as: Matt's blog would have given you 'deep' scoop
    3. Short version: original creator sold the design to a corp/put
    WP in a position where they Had NO Choice but to Change PressRow--
    unless you would like to Pay for it?
    4. Fess up aren't you fed up with:
    a.) quote marks going wrong way
    b.) Sidebar headings: serif bottoms cut off, e.g., "g" "y" etc
    c.) default ONE space between sentences --forcing
    either looking stupid, reader going cross-eyed or
    putting a character between ALL the sentences then making
    it white so it disappears
    -or doing entire piece in an editor and doing tweaks to all
    the bits after paste
    I e-mailed the designer about all of it almost immediately and got,
    no reply --or to subsequent three requests. I am tired/fed up with all of it.
    I'm rather Sure WP won't enable such sloppiness.

    TO: WP
    You learned well, thanks for notice (lol). I tried the "Preview"
    --my thoughts:
    1. Overall: every thing into place normally, no surprises --Kool!
    2. Frame around widgets, especially with photos in widget: I can Live
    with that
    3. tag line/page bottom: it's odd, in black ground; but it's okay,
    I could 'live'
    4. Fonts: headline /Sidebar /text widgets
    So Ugly, Bad --so Wrong if they aren't changed I cannot
    live with it.

    If it matters: I'm a writer and graphic designer, lifetime
    studying typography; about 80% of why I have a WP blog is
    PressRow --for the FONTS. --Even PressRow users may not fully KNOW why
    they like it so much, but it IS the fonts.
    Headline type: heavy, clunky, black --looks like Death Notice, now.
    Nothing elegant about ANY of them. --It's easy to see someone
    made the Attempt to get the 'look' --but Failed.

    The header photo is silly, but I assume it can be changed;
    I can live with the other (slight) differences,
    and good job on getting it overall 'close' to original.
    But:
    Will you change the headline/heading/header fonts?

    I'd like a specific answer, please. Since I don't like any other
    template, If you won't switch to something that duplicates the
    'speech' of original fonts, I have to find another host for my blog.

    Thank you for "two weeks" notice, good job on that!

  7. @ themeshaper Yes, the fonts might be the same, but you have changed the font sizes in the pages buttons under the header, for example. And also, the ”latest comments”- headline is much smaller than the other widgets. Seems very odd to me.

    I agree to what poppy8sd says in the comment above. The (yet small) changes to the fonts takes away all the feeling of PressRow. I liked the larger headlines of the posts and the thicker font on the pages buttons.

    I really liked WordPress so far, and I've recommended it to everyone I know. But this is really disappoiting! If I choose another theme, how will I know that you won't remove that one as well?

    Or is this change made just to make us pay for WordPress? Would appreciate an honest answer.

  8. Looks a little stark to me, literally....I liked the soft colors and broken backs of the original image.

    Also, this is showing up below the comment box:

    You may use these HTML tags and attributes

    Is that because it's in beta?

  9. Yes, strongly agree with others about the importance of fonts and font sizes. Please don't change anything about fonts.
    Also, please get rid of the gray border around widgets -- very clunky looking.
    And -- I see a lot more blue type on the page, which is ugly and distracting.
    I want my pages to look serious, stylish, and professional. I spend hours researching, writing, editing, and illustrating my posts and it will all be wasted if the theme looks like an amateurish mishmash. Every little detail counts.

  10. @chouchouslittleworld Someone from the Theme Team should be contacting you very soon.

    @leoafricanus Not at the moment. That may be something we add to the theme in the future.

    @nonnie9999 If you run into any problems please don't hesitate to contact us in support.

    @longshotsblues The code there is only for blogs using the Custom CSS upgrade with PressRow. Your custom header image should transfer over automatically once you make the switch. If for someone reason it doesn't, let us know and we'll manually reset it for you.

    @ettuar The smaller Recent Articles title is a display bug that should be corrected soon. And, yes, PressRow will automatically be upgraded to Pilcrow in 2 weeks. (Also, feel free to contact us in support en Italiano if it's easier for you.)

    @finepixtrix @wevelostcontrol We'll take a look at that right away.

    @poppy8sd Thanks for your input! We really appreciate the perspective of a long-time PressRow user. We've tried to keep a similar feel between the two themes and the headline and sidebar text fonts are almost identical in PressRow and Pilcrow.

    @ingriddim The header menu font is indeed slightly smaller. The free theme upgrade is definitely not meant to drive purchases of any other upgrades.

    @patsquared2 The listing of allowed tags below the comment box is likely there to stay.

    @victualling As noted above the themes are typographically very similar. I hope that helps!

  11. Hi,

    On my blog (http://centreoftheworld.wordpress.com) I combine photos and text. With the new Pilcrow theme, I am unable to space the text in-between the pictures correctly making it look like I've made mistakes in my spacing...

    I much prefered Pressrow!

  12. Ciertamente no entiendo la necesidad de cambiar un tema por otro, Hasta ahora el diseño de PressRow era lo suficientemente atractivo y útil que parece que el cambio no es necesariamente a mejor.

    La apariencia, independientemente de las mejoras, no tiene nada que ver con la de PressRow, incluye,por ejemplo, cabecera, lo que supone un total cambio de diseño del blog y me obligaría a modificar todas las páginas y post, estéticamente hablando. Ignoro si acarrearía, además, otros problemas el cambio.

    Desearía, sinceramente, que no se modificara. Pueden añadir el nuevo y dejar alos que estamos contentos con PressRow seguir con él.

  13. I like Pilcrow. But I tried to use different options in it and couldn't--if I am not using CSS can I still try out different options?

  14. I like pilcrow!!

  15. @marcys Yes, you can view all the options but you have to activate Pilcrow first. Go to Appearance → Theme Options in your dashboard after you change the theme and you'll see the color and layout options there.

  16. Hey @lance and @themeshaper, here's a suggestion for the Pilcrow's brown template:

    Change the a:visited color to something less dark. It's difficult to read the grey visited link on the brown background.

    Love,

    -m

  17. @finepixtrix @wevelostcontrol Image borders should no longer be cut off. Thanks for letting us know about that issue!

    @victualling We've made the widget styles more similar to PressRow—with a few more tweaks on the way. :)

    @steeleworthy Thanks for catching that! Visited link colors should be more consistent with the alternate color schemes now.

  18. @joemh The paragraph and image caption margins should look a little more familiar now. I hope that helps!

  19. tugino. How to make a custom menu?

  20. Hi, Tugino. We have some great instructions on how to make custom menus here.

  21. For those that have been exploring the layouts in Appearance→Theme Options if you look again you might notice we've added another layout. :)

  22. My site seems to have made the switch perfectly. All I don't like so far is the black bar on the bottom showing my blog name and the theme. The rest is so light and nice, why such a jarring black line at the bottom and so close to the bottom of the material on my site?

  23. @jeanash Hopefully it isn't too jarring. It also acts as a container for the optional footer widgets and, if you choose one of the alternate color schemes, it comes in other colors.

  24. >>>headline and sidebar text fonts are almost identical
    in PressRow and Pilcrow.

    ~themeshaper
    You're welcome, happy to give Feedback. But: your "reply" NOT an Answer.
    NEW Fonts, Colors, Sizes: NOT the SAME as original. --Are you stalling till
    decision --or that was weak way of saying 'No font changes'?

    What may be vaguely clear to WP staff I'll put HARD Dead
    Certain:
    writers who use PressRow NOT the same as other WP writers.
    Oh, we may Glance at your new themes, doodads, 'toys' but
    don't give Serious consideration. The stuff WP keeps stuffing
    into the Dashboard: just stuff --to be worked AROUND.

    What Matters to PressRow writers: Fonts
    For anyone who doesn't know: typography duplicates SPEECH.
    --As in: all caps = yelling, e.g.

    1. NEW Headline font: bold/heavy, BLACK --not the dark grey, clunky
    --corny --Parody of what was; ditto: Sidebar Headings, etc.

    2. Size: e.g., ellipses
    So Large NOW they look like BUBBLES
    --this Matters, to me: I use ellipses page/top in definition of
    "daVine" and with ellipses THAT size it will make me look a Fool.

    3. Strip page/bottom --black ground
    IF I remove the statement in that strip/if none: will strip disappear?
    It IS jarring, but if you MUST have such a strip and it MUST default to BLACK ground: I'm willing to accept, IF it helps you. BUT:

    4. WILL WP: put exact ORIGINAL Heading/Header Fonts, Colors, Sizes
    of PressRow into Pilcrow?

    Specific, Real reply please.

  25. @poppy8sd Sorry my response was too short. Nothing was meant by it. I can go into more detail about the font similarities and differences.

    For the headline font the only real difference is color. PressRow's was a lighter black (#333333) while Pilcrow's is a higher contrast jet-black (#000000). Both are set in 28 pixel Georgia regular.

    The sidebar widget title fonts are identical. Both are set in light grey (#99999), 24 pixel, Georgia regular.

    I'm not able to see a difference between the rendering of ellipses in PressRow and Pilcrow but if you can provide a screenshot, and contact us in support, we'll take a look at it right away.

    The footer bar will remain if the blog tagline is empty.

    While there has been effort made to preserve much of the visual style of PressRow in Pilcrow there will be some differences. Footer styles, slightly smaller menus, and simpler borders, are unlikely to change. That said, we've made many small but significant changes to Pilcrow over the past 24 hours to help make post typography and layout more familiar to those making the transition—and are likely to keep doing so wherever we can.

    I hope that helps!

  26. Come on..I just changed to this..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  27. @salobrena You should find it very similar to the experience you've had with PressRow—with new features that allow for more customization.

  28. ~themeshaper
    Thanks for prompt reply and for details --I went to do homework
    (on your reply), didn't finish. Can't learn "screen shots" fast enough.

    Put my current Home Page & Pilcrow PREVIEW side by side:

    1. page/top/right - blog Name: original & new identical

    2. post/headline: orig. --dark grey/ new --black
    if you say BOTH SAME Font Size then: Pilcrow Must be in BOLD
    --proof:
    SAME headline in Pilcrow in three lines, PressRow two lines

    3. page/top/text widget: COLOR --identical grey;
    SIZE --if you say Identical then suspect same
    --Font must be in BOLD

    4. Sidebar/headings: Pilcrow in BOLD

    Serifs and other parts of font look similar in both themes
    and if you say they're SAME:
    then it is BOLD that is changing it from elegant into clunky --the
    ellipses into 'bubble-size.'

    Can you/will you change Headers to un-Bold?

    If you un-Bold: we can see if headlines still look like Death Notice
    --or: okay in black.

    Punctuation-
    in Pilcrow Preview:
    5. still only ONE space between sentences/after
    a period --Is that default?
    6. Can it be changed: TWO spaces after periods, colons?
    (Please please, lol, say "Yes"!)
    7. Quote marks: fixed? --Right AND Left will face INWARD?

    8. Preview:
    I didn't Activate. IF I Enable Pilcrow:
    can I go BACK to PressRow during next two weeks?
    Or once Activated: I'm stuck --can't go back/PressRow will disappear?

    9. Widget/frames: changes --look good now; though two pics
    in widgets: right side cut off --might be my fault...

    10. 'Features' in Pilcrow: I'm clueless/looking for def's, e.g.,
    "RTL-language" "menus" etc. Do I actually Need any of this new stuff?

    11. Translation
    waste? Why offer: People in non-English countries who read
    my posts translate it themselves; and
    whole thing can be pasted into Google to trans.

    Note - If no one has said it:
    Appreciate this Forum for theme --helps all
    at the same time, Much better than everyone sending same stuff
    in tons of e-mails! (lol) (--though it doesn't do Thing One
    for withdrawal, lol....)

  29. NOW we have really bad problems:

    The text of both comments and the main body of work is all centered rather than lined up properly as paragraphs!!!! How ridiculous is this????

    Now, I have a coder coming over to fix this roaring mess. Thanks for nothing, WordPress. By the way, I emailed you guys yesterday and still have heard nothing! I am a PAYING CUSTOMER and should be given some consideration (like, prioritize your paying customers, OK?).

    Elaine Supkis

  30. As for the fonts: totally out of whack for those of us who had someone CSS for the previous format. The cavalier attitude of the representative here is most annoying since this has thoroughly disrupted my own site as well as my entire day. I have appointments to make and had to make this emergency appointment to fix this mess.

    Another thing wrong with this new template: the box for clicking on previous stories is both at the top of the page under my headline art...and before the comments section. Why this double-up method? I hate it. And the jump to comments is at the top under the headline for the story, a very ugly spot for it. Quite distracting and annoys this author no end. Please remove it or fix its orientation to come after the headline of the story.

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