Did You notice This?

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  • #684622

    wpgaurav
    Member

    I also wish this to be temporary. Visitors stumbling to your site via Global-tags are true visitors since they come to learn about that tag. Sometimes when they want to learn more about a topic, they click on tags and nothing can be better post-index than global tags pages, because that contains diversity.

    #684627

    wank
    Member

    Here’s why global tags were unpopular with some users and why I’m glad they’ve apparently gone:

    1. On wordpress.org blogs (and indeed every other blog software I can think of) tags on posts lead to the archives for this tag, so for most readers coming from outside wordpress.com, being sent to a global tag page outside the blog is unexpected and unwanted behaviour. Since there is no guarantee that the global tag page will even include a link back to the original blog, some people were concerned that they might lose a potential reader this way and not get them back.

    2. (and most importantly, to my mind) having the tag links on posts and the tag links in the sidebar go to completely different pages is a violation of accessibility guidelines. The target of a link should be indicated by what the link says. It should not be dependent on where the link is located, whether the link is on a mature blog, whether the link is on a .com blog or a .org blog etc. etc.

    Having easy access to global tags from your blog may be handy for you, but it’s a usability nightmare for any readers from outside wordpress.com.

    #684628

    dlager
    Member

    Agreed with Wanks points. Think of your self as a reader coming to your blog.
    You would want to click on a tag so that it takes you to posts on that site with the similar topics. Not to some Global tag system for WordPress. It was very confusing for people, especially if they were not familiar to WordPress.com.

    Tags as they were originally advertised were to help readers better find a specific topics on a blog. Not every blog on wordpress.com

    IMO the “possibly related posts” feature does a better job than the Global tag system.

    #684631

    timethief
    Member

    @dlager

    IMO the “possibly related posts” feature does a better job than the Global tag system.

    That’s not my experience at all. I frequently find the possibly related posts are not related. Moreover, I have found they link to some sites that have negligible value for my readers so I tend to enable and disable them depending on what I am seeing.

    #684632

    dlager
    Member

    Good point about “possibly related posts” TT,
    but then I went to a blog post of yours very accurately tagged “Google”.
    If I clicked on your tag, previously:
    this global tag page came up:
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/google/

    Check at the blog at the top of the page– it has absolutely nothing to do with Google.
    include the fact that none of posts are yours on the most recent global tag page, I don’t think it helps a reader.

    As for the new system: Now if I click on your Tag “google” I see an archive of your post with that tag. Much better in my opinion for you and your reader.

    #684634

    Until a few minutes ago it was my understanding the “categories” widget was supposed to lead readers to other material we’ve written under specific tags, but the categories and tags we put on specific posts were meant to lead… elsewhere, or basically to the WP category and tag pages.

    #684637

    I’m sorry but this now is totally ridiculous. People are not looking specifically for their own tag subject. But when clicked onto a Category or Filed Under it then directed you onto Music, Blues, Entertainment, Politics …. whatever it took you to a page where your blog was visible by others and posted for everyone to see. And you could see theirs as well.

    Clicking onto tags and filed under categories just leading back to your own blog is stupid. How does one even get to the global pages for these subjects now?

    Why take something so simple and complicate it? It makes no sense.

    I can’t believe anybody would want this to stay as is. People saying actually more people will see all your blogs within that tag? HOW?

    When from your own blog if you’ve posted something in that same category or tag now it only returned you BACK TO YOUR OWN BLOG.

    I can’t see what your posting on, nor can you see mine. They’ve made it where we only see our own. This is a MESSED UP way of doing things, confusing to people and was totally unnecessary.

    WHERE ARE THESE CATEGORY PAGES NOW?

    MUSIC, BLUES, ENTERTAINMENT, POLITICS, NEWS, SPORTS, HORSE RACING and TAGS WE PUT ON OUR BLOGS?

    Because when I click onto them I’m returned to my own blog. What’s the point of blogging? Nobody can see what you are posting on, and you can’t see theirs.

    So it has now became useless. Why can’t people just leave things alone. This isn’t making the site better it’s making it impossible to get views and to view others when clicking onto things only returns you to your own blog.

    Senseless

    #684638

    wank
    Member

    WHERE ARE THESE CATEGORY PAGES NOW?

    MUSIC, BLUES, ENTERTAINMENT, POLITICS, NEWS, SPORTS, HORSE RACING and TAGS WE PUT ON OUR BLOGS?

    They still exist. People have posted plenty of sample links to global tag pages in this thread. If those links are not working for you then you have some other problem besides their removal from your blog and your malfunctioning Caps Lock.

    #684639

    Thank you for the sarcasm, poinless but maybe it made you feel important.

    I USED CAPS TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.

    You don’t like it, ignore and don’t comment. And others seem to be venting my same frustration WANK.

    https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/tags-or-filed-under-now-is-only-leading-to-my-own-blogs-saying-archives?replies=9

    #684642

    timethief

    Yes, the instruction found on the global tag pages support entry for search format still applies.

    Simply change the tag in the URL and use a “-” to represent any spaces between words. Here are some examples:

    http://wordpress.com/tag/cheese/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/rain/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/bill-gates/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/chocolate/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/peanut-butter/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/caffeine/
    http://wordpress.com/tag/master-chief/ http://en.support.wordpress.com/global-tags/

    In reality this won’t work putting these links in the tags themselves. When you click onto them they still bring up your own blog.

    I had to post your example into the blog ( at the bottom ).

    As far as Music, Entertainment, Blues.

    The subject matter I wrote on which was the artist doesn’t even apply anymore. Because there used to be a Song of the day ( Filed Under Category ) but no more.

    Very Sad way of doing things. So Tagging Ry Cooder, Delta Blues, the songs title or Slide Guitar lead nowhere unfortunately.

    But Thanks for the examples. You can put them straight into your blog and they will get you to the Category, they just don’t work putting them in Tags.

    Hopefully WordPress will put things back to the way they had them.

    http://longshotsblues.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/saturday-at-sundown-feelin-the-blues-ry-cooder/

    #684643

    This is the link you have below that post for “Ry Cooder.”

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Ry%20Cooder

    That isn’t the link to the global tags page for Ry Cooter, This is.

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/ry-cooder/

    The links on ALL of these are wrong:

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/slide guitar
    
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/”Feelin’ The Blues”
    
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Song of the Day
    
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Song of the Night
    
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Delta Blues

    No ” or ‘ or any other special characters, no upper case, and no spaces. Spaces are to be replaced by dashes and put a trailing ” / ” on all of them.

    /tag/slide-guitar/
    
    /tag/feelin-the-blues/
    
    /tag/song-of-the-day/
    
    /tag/song-of-the-night/
    
    /tag/delta-blues/

    If the links are correct, then they take you to the correct global tag page. If they are not, then they will not.

    #684644

    the sacredpath

    This is my Blog’s link

    http://longshotsblues.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/saturday-at-sundown-feelin-the-blues-ry-cooder/

    I don’t know where you got the http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Ry%20Cooder link because I don’t have this. Actually have what you say is correct as you can see only I capitalized the R of ry.

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Ry Cooder

    In reality I tried not capitalizing it and it still didn’t lead anywhere but back to my own blog. But just now seeing what I did. I thought I copied time thief’s tag lines but I made a mistake by not adding the – between ry & cooder.

    So Thanks Sacred, I’ll change them all. And I’m hoping you mean put the correct tags IN TAGS. I really don’t want them on the blog itself.

    In reality I just hope WordPress loses this brain storm of change and just switch it back. To me this was all an unnecessary and just made things complicated when they were already simple. You clicked onto the tags and it took you straight to the respectful global pages. Now having to do this by URL and so forth. Insanity

    #684645

    Sacred Path

    They do not work in TAGS or the blog itself. I copied exactly what you have and it still lead to nowhere but a page that says WordPress doesn’t have a Category for NONE of what I have listed. Whether Ry Cooder or Delta Blues, Slide Guitar, etc…..

    So there’s still no point. WordPress has just made it hard that’s all. None of this made any sense to do.

    #684646

    Well now a couple links work other don’t. I’m off to bed will see what I’m doing wrong later. But you cannot put these in the TAGS. They do not work. Ry Cooder link worked on the blog itself but not putting in the tags.

    This is all messed up, that’s all I can say. Can WordPress make it any harder? Couldn’t just leave well alone.

    #684647

    raincoaster
    Member

    If you want to know why staff did this, what their motivation is, etc, you’ll have to ask them. They don’t tell us either.

    #684648

    These links on your site are wrong. Notice all the %20 stuff in the links? That is wrong. You need to edit the links and fix the URLs

    Slide Guitar: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/slide%20guitar
    Feelin’ The Blues: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/%22Feelin'%20The%20Blues%22
    Song of the Night: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Song%20of%20the%20Night
    Delta Blues: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/Delta%20Blues

    Here is what they should be:

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/slide-guitar/
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/feelin-the-blues/
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/song-of-the-night/
    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/delta-blues/

    All of the above URLs have been verified and these are the URLs to those tags.

    #684649

    suebarnett
    Member

    This change, if it is permanent, wastes time and tends to isolation. If someone wants to search a blog for related material within itself there is a search facility to do so without disconnecting the tags from the global function. I think it is something you can choose as a widget.

    If someone clicks a tag, usually they are interested in the tag subject rather than who it was written by. If they can find something helpful or interesting by someone else, maybe even more so, by clicking on the tag they should have that option easily, as they have to date.

    The only people I can see who will feel they benefit from this change are people with commercial interests in their own blog who want to keep their readers within that world.

    After all the support page stuff I found the easiest way to access the global pages from a blog after clicking a tag, since this change has been made, is to just go to the url in the address bar and take out the blogger’s details. For instance, mine would be:

    suebarnett.wordpress.com/tag/(tag name)

    Take out my details (suebarnett) and the remaining information takes you to the global page. It takes me there too, and to me that is just as important. It takes you out of cliques and coteries.

    #684650

    raincoaster
    Member

    If you want out of cliques and coteries, why not try surfing Technorati tags? http://technorati.com/tag/

    #684651

    suebarnett
    Member

    raincoaster, what is the point of that suggestion, if not to try to undermine the validity and obviious relevance of what I have said without it? That appeared too quickly after my own posting for my comfort.

    I might be a bit paranoid about you because I AM being stalked. That is partly, mainly, what my blog is about.

    Thank you for your link, but I believe what I have said stands without it and might not be enhanced by it. If you disagree will you please expalin its relevance to the topic?

    #684652

    suebarnett
    Member

    The topic is the universal convenience, or otherwise, of global tag links.

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