Difference between views and visitors

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  • #1099410

    sherpakyle
    Member

    I’m curious how this works. I have 28 views and 0 visitors. There were 2 search engine terms. No posts were accessed, only pages (giving instructions regarding completing a hike and photos of the hike). Could the search engine terms be people who accessed the pages via bookmarks as pages don’t have tags? I had to have at least one visitor to click on the various pages–right? It’s an interesting stat for me as I create more pages than posts and really want people to look at the various hikes etc as a reference guide. Looking forward to learning how this works.

    #1099414

    timethief
    Member

    @sherpakyle
    Please post the URL for the blog you are referring to. If the blog in question is a private blog and you are logged in and view it then every page you view results in a stat being recorded. But this is not the case when the blog visibility is public. http://en.support.wordpress.com/stats/

    #1099421

    sherpakyle
    Member

    @timethief, the blog in question is public: http://hikingangelesforest.com/ I just learned that the visitor stats can lag a couple hours behind the view stats. Perhaps that is what I’m seeing. Thanks for your reply!

    #1099424

    timethief
    Member
    #1099431

    I guess it’s all too easy to click the reader. If a post catches my eye then I’ll visit the blog which is hopefully some valuable clicks. We all want to see traffic, so the more sources the better!

    #1099436

    timethief
    Member

    @mikeosbornphoto

    We all want to see traffic, so the more sources the better!

    I hear that mantra everywhere but it’s not my chant. I’m not into the scattergun approach when it comes to blog promotion. I don’t value any “like” that’s not a true expression of appreciation for content. I pay to keep ads off my blog and opportunistic baggage that comes with advertising.

    I want targeted traffic nit a tsunami of like button clickers who contribute nothing of value to the blog and I do what I can to secure it. Successful blogs draw between 30 – 60 % of their incoming targeted readers from search engine referrals. Some draw even more.

    Learning how to use keywords effectively in your content is key to drawing search engine traffic. That produces display of links to your posts in search engine results when people look for posts by typing those terms into search engines like Google and Bing, etc.

    Targeted readers are different from casual like button clicking traffic. Targeted readers arrive on your blog in response to SERPS (search engine page results) knowing the subject matter they are searching for will be found in your posts. Hence, targeted readers are more likely:

    • to become regular readers leave comments on your posts.
    • to backlink to your posts in posts of their own and when they do your blog will receive visitors who click the links.
    • to share the URL to your blog with other targeted readers in the same niche via social media and social networks.
    • to become subscribers.
    • to become guest authors on your blog

    True blogging is about creating relationships; it’s not about bean counting.

    #1099483

    metan1
    Member

    I always wondered if people stumbled across my blog by accident or were here having a look around, now I can keep better track.

    Loving the new aspect of stats, thanks WP :)

    #1099500

    janeadamsart
    Member

    Hallo, glad this discussion is going on. I am a little confused by what is said by wp in Support: “A view is only counted for a post or page when the permalink URL is visited. For example, if a visitor reads a post titled “Hello World” while viewing the home page of your blog, the view will not be counted towards the post, only towards total views.” I understood this to mean that the views of different posts during one visit to a blog, didn’t count – only the URL of home page or one of the posts did. Now the situation seems to be that every view is counted. OR – perhaps you mean that clicks on previous posts are URLs and count as a view, whereas scrolling up and down the home page doesn’t. Can you please clarify? By the way I don’t read the blogs I follow from the reader, I always click on their url, because then I can see the whole presentation. No point in missing out!

    #1099559

    timethief
    Member

    The situation has not changed. All that has changed is that we are now being informed of how many unique visitors we have.

    WordPress.com stats are now and have always been page view stats. Every time a link is clicked and a new page is opened that is recorded as a stat. Example: If I come to your blog and click links into 4 different posts and/or pages on your blog that creates 4 page view stats.

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    Visitor tracking on WordPress.com blogs Edit this entry

    Posted on October 2, 2009 by timethief

    diversity1Once you have created your new WordPress.com blog, you will need to add your new blog to your Google web masters account, generate and submit a site map, and register with search engines. After you have published a few posts and attracted some visitors some questions will begin to arise.

    Visitor tracking questions

    Where did your blog visitors come from?
    Which search engines did unique visitor hits or returning unique web visitors come from?
    What path did they take on your site?
    Which browser and which operating system do your visitors use?
    How long are your visitors on your page per visit and how many pages did they view?
    What time of the day did they come?

    Hits, Page Views, Unique Visitors
    What is a hit? In web analytics, a hit is any request for a file from a web server. By request means a hit calculates page content delivered, all images to complete that page, and any additional files that need to be loaded to make the web page you are looking at, appear the way it does.

    What is a page view? A page view is a request to load a single page of an internet site that results from a page request from a web surfer clicking on a link on another HTML page which is pointing to the page in question.

    What is a unique visitor?
    A unique visitor is access from a single IP to a web server that generates page views and hits during a particular visit. When a visitor has cookies disabled, there is no way of establishing if they are a unique visitor or not.

    #1099560

    timethief
    Member

    Staff assist please

    Oh RATS! I didn’t know I had copied all of that. I only wanted to paste art of it. Will Staff please remove my comment at https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/difference-between-views-and-visitors?replies=27#post-1098491

    #1099576

    Thanks for this discussion. I could not figure out why the comments and responses I received outside the blog didn’t tie with the number of site visitors. Didn’t realize there was a time lag. I guess I’m too used to instant feedback!

    #1099588

    Curiously the number of country views exceeds the number of visitors on my site. Not sure how that is possible…

    #1099589

    janeadamsart
    Member

    Hi Jake, interesting you should mention that, because I have noticed for some time in my stats that the Views number bears no relation to the number from the countries, it is usually more, while the Visitors number is less. I checked just now. Today there are so far 108 Visitors and 228 from the map of countries and 261 Views. So , like yourself I would be interested, to know better how this works out. Thanks for your attention, wp!

    #1099600

    I’m still confused. What is the difference between a post and a page? If a visitor visits my blog – http://www.stonecoldtruth2011.wordpress.com – and scrolls down to view all past posts is that one visitor and one view … or what? Do I have 25+ pages, or 1 page with 25+ posts? If 1 visitor views all posts in the same visit does it count different than if they visit numerous different times and view a different post each time? etc.

    #1099601

    janeadamsart
    Member

    I would much like clarification on this, too!

    #1099602

    Not entirely sure about this myself. But is it like if you visit the main blog page its a single page count no matter how far you scroll. But clicking on the permanent link of a post is another page count.

    How helpful that is, I’m not sure.

    #1099603

    janeadamsart
    Member

    This is a topic of some general interest. Has anyone else noticed in the last couple days (in the stats) that views and visits numbers-ratio now only show on the busiest days? e.g. in the row of columns, my days which are around 50-60% less busy, show the vis/view ratio in colour, but not numbers; above this level, they show both. Till end of last week, they all showed, ever since 3 December when the feature started. I guess this feature is still in process?

    I now understand, re googlegargoyle’s entry, that if someone clicks on my Home page and scrolls, this is one page, and therefore a visit. If the same visitor clicks on a recent post – or on the page list of complete posts in my archive – this is a URL, and counts as a view.

    If a visitor finds one of my posts url or pictures url through a search engine and clicks, that is a visit?
    A click through facebook or anything which has my url, or the url of one of my posts, is a visit.
    Reading an email or “reader” notification, without clicking on the blog’s url or the post url, does not show up as a visit or a view.

    Tell me please, does clicking on links between my blogs, count as a view or a visit?
    Thanks.

    #1099614

    zandyring
    Staff

    @stonecoldtruth – if someone reads all your posts on your homepage in the blogroll, that only counts as one view – your homepage. But if they click each post title and open it, then you’ll get additional post views. Say one visitor comes to your site. They view the homepage, (one view), then click through to each of 3 posts to see them on their own pages (three more views) gives you 4 views from one visitor. Does that help at all?

    @janeadamsart – as long as the viewer lands on your actual blog, you have a visitor. If they are reading RSS but don’t click into your blog and actually visit your blog (URL), the visit won’t register. Clicking on different links within your blog (as in my above example) does count as different views, from the same visitor.

    I hope that helps clear up some of the confusion!

    #1099615

    janeadamsart
    Member

    Thanks. Just two things:
    1) When a visitor clicks on links/pictures in my blog, those are views? But those show up to be different from the posts. They are a different count altogether.
    2) the countrys stat is not the same as the visits or views stats. It is somewhere in between.
    3) Why do my visitor/view stats only show the number ratio for the more busy days, and not for the less busy days? For instance, any day which is about 50 or 60% of a peak day, only shows the colour ratio, not the number crunch.

    Thank you very much for all your help.

    #1099616

    jblz
    Staff

    @janeadamsart: I’m seeing “Views per Visitor” on hover on each of your days since December 3rd. Can you please try clearing your cache and reloading the stats page?

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