Doubt about Views

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  • #1677219

    tetzner
    Member

    Hi folks

    Does the comments sent by email (as answer for a prior comment received) count as Total blog audience?

    My blog has many email interactions and I´m not sure it´s being accounted.

    I think each comment that is sent by email should count as a view, doesn´t?

    The blog I need help with is tetzner.wordpress.com.

    #1677284

    tetzner
    Member

    someone please help?

    #1677285

    One is either logged into WordPress.com and clicks into a blog posts and creates a page view stat when they do that or they don’t and there isn’t one created.

    Our stats are not real time stats. For details see here http://en.support.wordpress.com/stats/ and note the views and viewers take hours to update. Also note that those who follow your blog in the Reader or by email don’t have to click into the blog unless they wish to.

    Likes and shares and reblogs and follows are not page views. In fact, likes, shares and reblogs are completely misleading when you are talking about page view stats. Your followers and anyone with a WordPress.com blog who is logged into WordPress.com can “follow” your blog, “like”, “share” and “reblog” your posts in several locations such as the Reader, without ever clicking into your blog and creating a single page view stat.

    Visitors using a mobile can read the full post without creating a page view stat. https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/wordpresscom-reader-show-full-text?replies=31#post-1373606

    You can control the length of the entry sent out on your RSS feed here > Settings > Reading. Choose the “summary” setting for your RSS feed rather than to “full text”. That will compel followers who are not using mobiles to click into the blog to read the full post which will create a page view stat.

    #1677286

    tetzner
    Member

    The problem that I´m facing is:

    people that follow blog by email, doesn´t really see the blog; access once to subscribe and got comments by email and keep updated

    they don´t know or see if a page ou post was updated (because they didn´t access it)

    so if I turn off comments by email, I should provide a way to keep following the comments

    by RSS Comments, people can see the content posted and if they want reply, access the blog

    each read at RSS comments gerate views in statisctics so I can follow the audience of my blog and see that people are reading the content

    but they can´t easily answer it, and have to use a link, to open a browse outside the rss tool, then answer

    does anyone faces the same problem?

    I know, people are free to do what they want; but as content provider, I should have a way to demand a return in terms of hints/access/audience at least to know if people are really reading or dead….

    #1677287

    We all face the problem that Staff are deliberately bent on providing ways and means for others to read our posts and click a myriad of buttons without clicking into the actual post and reading it on the blog it was published on.

    1. I don’t blog to provide anyone the ability to read my posts by email.

    2. I don’t blog to provide WordPress.com with the ability to use my posts to create a magazine layout in the Reader for anyone who will not click into the blog and read it where it is published.

    • As I indicated above I set my RSS feed to summary here > Settings > Reading, and I deliberately insert the more tag into every post I publish. I provide only 55 word teaser followed by a read more tag and my copyright notice. Doing that means I spend less time apprehending content thieves and sending DMCA takedown notices to web hosts to get my posts removed from splogs.

    3. I think anyone who purchases an annually renewable custom design upgrade, knowing that readers do not need to click into the blog and see their customizations there is, in essence, flushing their money down the toilet every year.

    I’m unhappy about this situation. I’ll tag this thread for Staff responses to your questions. Please subscribe to the thread so you are notified when they reply.

    #1677288

    tetzner
    Member

    Thanks!
    Maybe if we could just set the email content of a comment as “full” or “resume” as it already exists for Feeds could solve this isso easily
    :)

    #1677289

    When you set the RSS Feed to summary here > Settings > Reading then all that goes out in the email is the summary not the full post.

    #1677290

    tetzner
    Member

    Really?? :D

    I just set it to resume, let see how it works

    I never noted it before; to me emails always comes with full text

    and thank you soo much for your atention

    #1677291

    tetzner
    Member

    This “Resume” option isn´t working for either RSS comments and email

    I´m receiving e viewing Full Text
    See this comment sample:


    Digo e repito, os interesses da Griffo não são os mesmo do pequeno investidor. Eles não estão nem ai pro cotista. Possuem as suas próprias margens e metas. Se puderem, vão vender mesmo, tem altas comissões envolvidas. Ah sim, com o aval do cotista na assembléia. Tô com o Tetzner: enquanto não entender o q está acontecendo estou fora da HG. E na boa: boa sorte pra vcs q pensam o contrário.

    Feed:

    Comentário sobre HGRE11 – CSHG Real Estate por David
    ‎Hoje, ‎1‎ de ‎março‎ de ‎2014, ‏‎6 minutos atrás | DavidIr para artigo inteiro
    Digo e repito, os interesses da Griffo não são os mesmo do pequeno investidor. Eles não estão nem ai pro cotista. Possuem as suas próprias margens e metas. Se puderem, vão vender mesmo, tem altas comissões envolvidas. Ah sim, com o aval do cotista na assembléia. Tô com o Tetzner: enquanto não entender o q está acontecendo estou fora da HG. E na boa: boa sorte pra vcs q pensam o contrário.

    and by email:

    Digo e repito, os interesses da Griffo não são os mesmo do pequeno investidor. Eles não estão nem ai pro cotista. Possuem as suas próprias margens e metas. Se puderem, vão vender mesmo, tem altas comissões envolvidas. Ah sim, com o aval do cotista na assembléia. Tô com o Tetzner: enquanto não entender o q está acontecendo estou fora da HG. E na boa: boa sorte pra vcs q pensam o contrário.

    #1677292

    This thread is tagged for a Staff response to your issue.

    #1677309

    tetzner
    Member

    Thanks thistimethisspace!

    Staff, please could see this with some priority?

    both, RSS Feeds fot comments and email comments aren´t being resumed

    just the “header comment” it´s being resumed

    #1677312

    Apologies in advance if I’ve misunderstood your question. I think what you are asking is whether you can change comment notification emails to only show a “Summary” (or “Resume”) of the comment.

    That’s actually not possible to change at WordPress.com. There is not a setting that will allow you to adjust whether the full text or summary of a comment is sent by email. The option timethief referred to earlier at Settings > Reading > For each article in a feed, show > “Summary” (or “Resume” is for the posts RSS feed, not comments.

    I’m sorry I don’t have a better answer for you!

    Regarding the issue you described where people can see the comments if they subscribe to comments by email but you don’t see that referenced in the stats, that is not something we plan to change right away but I’ve made a note of your request and it will be considered as a possible update next time the developers work on the stats.

    #1677313

    tetzner
    Member

    designsimply,

    no problem, but I would like to sugest a way to limit the text in comments too

    it´s very frustrating see all work done in blog and people doesn´t seeing it because they stay only in their emails

    I think thart it shoulb be a priority to wordpress, has their public accessing the web site, and not only their emails

    :)

    #1677315

    Thank you for the suggestion and the feedback. However, adding an option to truncate email comments is not likely to be an update we make.

    I did forward your other suggestion to count comment email views in a stat, I think that’s a really good suggestion.

    #1677319

    tetzner
    Member

    designsimply,

    thanks a lot; it´ll be very welcome

    about truncate email comments, it could be an option, as it now to show full or resume

    I can choose to set the comment in full mode or a resume

    otherwise, my blog will became an Yahoogroups or Googlegroups

    people frequently ask by email things that are already writed in posts and pages

    sorry to be boring you, but to me as blog owner it is very needed

    I can´t control email subscription(manage emails), I can´t define how much people can see without access my blog, I can´t really know if I´m talking to the “Walking Deads”

    Really, my motivation to keep the blog alive, it´s going away

    I´m just starting and email group and requesting all users to join it; there I can have this management that here isn´t possible

    sorry to throw this out over you, I really sad

    #1677388

    You are not boring me! However, I want to give you a realistic answer which is I don’t think an option to truncate comment email is something we will add. I’m sorry it makes you sad!

    Feedback is welcome, but we can’t always take action on every feedback. My best advice for you at this point is to keep writing, and judge how successful your readership is by using the stats provided so far and by the number of comments. Those are the things available at this time.

    #1677424

    Is there a way to make sure that my “views” do not reflect my own views of my page? I couldn’t find anything in the settings, but it looks to me as if every time I view something on my site, it is recorded, and I don’t want that.

    Thanks.

    #1677425

    Is there a way to make sure that my “views” do not reflect my own views of my page? I couldn’t find anything in the settings, but it looks to me as if every time I view something on my site, it is recorded, and I don’t want that.

    Thanks.

    #1677426

    timethief
    Member

    @sctreblecleff
    Do not hijack threads and post off topic please. Start your own thread instead https://en.forums.wordpress.com/?new=1

    #1677427

    I don’t know what “hijacking a thread” is, but I THOUGHT this was a page to get help with confusion about my WordPress stats. It is getting harder and harder to get a real technician to respond to me when I have a problem, so I am thrown into this pool of forums. I’m doing the best I can to figure out how to get help, but the WP staff doesn’t seem to be all that helpful lately.

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