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  1. @ daniceseclectic - 'We don't want our blogs looking like free-for-all bulletin boards down by some abandoned river. '
    Couldn't agree more. Some people may not notice ads and some may have adblockers that stop them from seeing ads at all, but just as many people are put off by them. They simply do not work. All they achieve is to put people off our writing as well. :(

  2. Could everyone add screen shots to their media libraries of the affected sites? Then I can compare what I am seeing to what you're seeing. Thanks!

  3. dandelionsalad
    Member

    First screenshot shows the very large sidebar ad:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lorri37/39126352305/

    Second screenshot shows two ads below the blog post:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lorri37/39534681764/

    My main objection is the very large sidebar ad pushing down important info on the blog further down the screen. And having multiple ads instead of a single ad at the end of our posts.

    Another objection is that the sidebar ad never goes away, even for frequent readers. Generally (it may have changed) the ad(s) below our posts go away upon refreshing the screen or going to another blog post.

    I only by chance even found this out by going to my blog on another browser that I wasn't logged into at the time. Many (most) bloggers have no idea that these new and multiple ads are on their blogs. If they were aware, there would be far more outrage on the Forums.

  4. It's devious at the very least! I rarely access my wordpress.com-hosted sites whilst not being logged in, hence I never see the damn things! Whta is wordpress up to?

    Happiness engineers? Puleeeze!

    Thank goodness I have my own, self-hosted site.

  5. Could everyone add screen shots to their media libraries of the affected sites? Then I can compare what I am seeing to what you're seeing. Thanks!
    From https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/expoitative-advertising/page/2?replies=34#post-3073665

    Screenshots can be very helpful. You can use http://snag.gy/ or http://cloudup.com to share screenshots and link to them here. If you use the WordPress.com guide for screenshots http://en.support.wordpress.com/make-a-screenshot/ you can and upload it to your Media Library, and return to this thread to provide the file name so Staff can examine it.

  6. At Liz and Timethief - in the beginning the sidebar ad would disappear, only to return hours or minutes later. Now it seems to be in my sidebar no matter when I check my blog.

    [Note: my blog is the home page of my Firefox browser so I see it as outsiders see it whenever I open the browser].

    Since becoming aware of the problem I have taken the following screenshots on the Firefox browser:

    https://acflory.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wordpress-advert.jpg

    https://acflory.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/meekas-mind-showing-3-adverts.jpg

    https://acflory.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/meekas-mind-showing-2-diff-adverts.jpg

    The next two were taken [within minutes of each other] using the IE and Chrome browsers respectively:

    https://acflory.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/blog-via-ie.jpg

    https://acflory.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/blog-via-chrome.jpg

    Clearly, different browsers have the option of displaying whatever ads they like. In the case of the Chrome ad. it displays a voluptuous young Asian woman suggesting that the viewer 'chat' with her.

    I'm no prude, but I really, seriously object to having soft porn and/or dating sites displayed in such a prominent position on my blog.

    What's next? Full frontal nudes?

    And I'd like to add one more thing, I believe WordPress has engaged in active deception regarding these ads because when I 'view' my site from within my blog, all I ever see is what is meant to be there.

    Not once have I seen even a hint of an advertisement in the sidebar. All I ever see is the widgets I myself setup.

    The first time it happened, I quickly opened another tab and typed in the URL of my blog. Sure enough, the ad /was/ there. Then I tried with my other two browsers and again, the ads were there, but they were different for each browser.

    As one of the other commenters on this thread has pointed out, if the average WordPress user could see their own blog from the 'outside', they'd be as shocked as we are. And they'd either be screaming blue murder or they'd be leaving WordPress in droves.

    Please do not drag your heels on this issue because it will not go away, even if we do.

  7. @ Dandelionsalad and Barovsky

    I feel kind of stupid for not seeing it before but...of course more bloggers aren't outraged - neither the 'view my site' nor the 'Preview' functions show the blog in real time. They only show the blog as it's meant to be.
    This does not look good. Even if it's just an unintentional thing it doesn't look good.

    I just wrote a post asking bloggers to check their blogs from the outside:

    https://wp.me/p25AFu-2Nx

    I also backed my posts up to my harddrive. :(

  8. widdershinsfirst
    Member

    C'mon WordPress ... do the right thing. We all agree that we accept advertising on our blogs as a fact of life, but this is greed, based on short-term thinking, which is dangerous behavior for a company in its 'mature' stage to engage in. Corporate culture is littered with examples of companies who floundered after making exactly this type of decision.

  9. dandelionsalad
    Member

    @nikkojii, I also wrote a blog post about this today. I put a link to your post, too. https://wp.me/p5qmX-NWG

    I find the ads used are so inappropriate! Thanks for showing us what the ads look like.

  10. @ widdershinsfirst

    'Corporate culture is littered with examples of companies who floundered after making exactly this type of decision. '

    Oh very well said! I guess we're both old enough to remember those other 'mature stage' companies called Geo Cities and My Space.

    Very short-sighted policy indeed.

  11. @ dandelionsalad. Thanks! I visited your blog and commented. I'll be doing some tweeting later too. Cheers!

  12. Thank you for all of the responses here. I'll be starting on these this afternoon. Expect to hear from me this afternoon at the email addresses connected to your user account. Thanks :)

  13. Hi everyone -

    update: I have emailed nikkojii, daniceseclectic, and dandelionsalad so far. Please respond to me in that email with further questions and/or follow ups. I am going to close this thread as soon as I have reviewed all the sites.

  14. dandelionsalad
    Member

    Why close this thread? There are still so many people that are completely unaware of these new ads on their blogs.

    I've never heard of communicating privately on a public issue before.

  15. dandelionsalad
    Member

    New screenshot that shows 3 ads on the blog. The white spaces are where the ads are located since I use an Ad Blocker on the browsers that I use.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lorri37/40211457232/

  16. widdershinsfirst
    Member

    @ lizarkoski ... does thin mean that there will be an across-the-board review of the policy or just an amendment to the sites people have given you screen shots of? Because this is a systemic issue, not just limited to the bloggers who have brought the issue up here.

  17. So, I went ahead and moved the three sites to a self-hosted environment. I took an extra domain and connected it to an already existing hosting (with another WP network install). This costs me $ 3,- per year for the the three blogs, ads free!

    At least I made a statement :-)

  18. daniceseclectic
    Member

    Got your email, lizkarkoski. Thank you so much. I emailed you with a reply. The ads are off of my blog, but are the ads are going to return later?

  19. lizkarkoski
    Happiness Engineer

    Why arbitrary decision to close this convo? On what basis do you make these decisions? What gives you the right?

  20. Good morning -

    I've received your reply, dandelionsalad. I'll be in touch this morning. I appreciate those extra screen shots you shared.

    It's easier for me to keep track of each case individually through email versus a giant thread. My colleagues outside of the forums team can also reply and help you should a response be sent to those emails. I hope that makes sense.

    As far as closing the thread - I'm going to back away once I've responded to everyone here. Should future requests/needs/problems come to this thread they can add the Modlook tag to request staff attention. "close" wasn't the right phrasing.

  21. widdershinsfirst - each site is being reviewed individually.

  22. chefperrypperkins - the site listed is enrolled in WordAds. This means that you're being paid for the ads displayed on your site. Once you reach $100 in earnings you'll get a pay out from WordAds directly. If you don't want to be enrolled in this program I will remove the ads on your site.

  23. Hi ricjcs - I am having a look at the ads on your site now. I'll be in touch via email soon.

  24. barovsky - I didn't see a site listed in your posts. Do you need me to review one?

  25. roygangleri - It sounds like you've moved over to self hosted completely. Is there anything else that you need help with here?

  26. mcoverda - apologies. I skipped over your post last night when I started going through the sites listed. I'll be in touch by email this morning. You can follow up with me there with any further questions and/or concerns.

  27. Everyone who has posted in this thread should have heard from me. If you haven't please add the Modlook tag to your next reply.

  28. Hi lizkarkoski.

    Thank you very much for your attention.

    But this is something global. Many bloggers are in the same situation and do not know. It is unfair, that only a few users (including myself) have a individual support.

    The problem is the new policy of wordpress.com. It's legitimate, you do what you want with the company. But, in my view, it was not a good attitude.

    Besides the main blog, I have others. I have a blog that is the translation of an ebook of free distribution. I have links to the blog in the ebook in pdf and epub. So switching to another service is not a good idea, I also will not upgrade to this blog. I chose wordpress.com instead of another company because I trusted the company, but now I have advertising everywhere.

  29. dandelionsalad
    Member

    Liz, thank you again for your time on this issue.

    The very large sidebar ad(s) are still on the blog. That is my main objection.

    From a business point of view, WP having tacky "Chat with Me" type of ads that are very large, can't be missed and located right when someone comes to our blogs is not recruiting new WP users.

    How can I or any of us recommend others to use WP now?

    If our blogs look good, WP looks good and you will have more users who will pay for upgrades, even though I cannot afford to do so.

    Why have some bloggers have had their sidebar ads removed but not others?

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