Frustrations with WP.com

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  • #32143

    nosysnoop
    Member

    I have no clue what the Norfolk tag is or means. I don’t use the Rich Editor but the other one. And I think I only use that to make clickable links and these tags:

    < blockquote > < strong > < em >

    What does the Norfolk tag do?

    #32144

    drmike
    Member

    nosy please do a search.

    I could have sworn that the norfolk tag worked. it did for me when i viewed her site.

    #32145

    timethief
    Member

    @raincoaster

    That Norfolk tag has now entered the realm of folklore. Truly, it’s meme-worthy, it’s just so bizarre. We should make it a metaphor for Beckettian logical dissonance wherever we encounter it. Although nobody will know what we’re talking about. Still, should drive traffic to the forum.

    It’s meme worthy. Go for it!

    #32146

    dreamnepal
    Member

    Seriously,
    What is wrong with the wordpress editor? I tried to write a poem but it would not just come in right format.
    It is like leaving 10 blank lines in between. I checked the html, deleted those blank lines and when I published again, it had fewer spaces but still it did not work well..

    Played around for about an hour before I got it right…

    Is this problem persistent with others as well?

    #32147

    raincoaster
    Member

    That’s very odd; never seen that except when it was pasted in from Word (which generally messes up formatting). You’re using the HTML editor? Try the Rich Text editor; to do single-spacing you hold down the CTRL key when hitting Enter, otherwise it’s all double-spaced, which looks funny for poetry.

    #32150

    disembedded
    Member

    My HTML editor tab in posting suddenly has disappeared. Has this happened to anyone else?

    #32153

    artpromote
    Member

    Frustrations??? Don’t talk to me about frustrations with WordPress!!!

    I’ve just been informed that I have to remove links to my wife’s website from her blog!

    Ignore that fact that I send loads of visitors to WordPress via her website… and I know for a fact that WordPress has had a good few new members because of this, I’ve now been told to lose the links to her own website :-(

    #32154

    artpromote
    Member

    Have just received an email from WordPress telling me that there can only be ***1*** link to my wife’s website from her blog. So, how is this going to impact on other WordPress bloggers who have **more** than 1 link on their blog to their websites?

    #32155

    cornell
    Member

    Actually Art, I think what they’re saying is that you shouldn’t have links to the website in *every* post. In the thread that you started Mark mentioned that there were 10 posts and 11 links to the website. That’s known as spamming or link blogging and is frowned upon at wp.com.

    If you have hosting on a website then there’s very little reason for not running the wordpress software directly on the website rather than at wp.com. It will give you much greater control over what happens with the blog and no-one can tell you what you can and can’t do with it.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love wp.com and for the blogger that just wants to blog it’s great. If you want to control the blog, the way it looks, the way it handles and complete control over the content then downloading the software and putting it on your own host is definitely the way to go.

    Collin

    #32156

    here’s a thought, why don’t you go around and look at the wp.com bloggers who have other sites. you’d realize that almost evey one of them links to their site regularly. hell, even lorelle does it. it’s a vague and inconsistant policy, that needs clearer wording, and unprejudiced implementation. if they keep running off everyone who runs a business and a blog on the side, they’ll be left with the just reward of having livejournal’s leftovers.

    #32157

    timethief
    Member

    Would it be a worthy use of staff time to assign them to undertake this kind of detection, which in essence amounts to re-writing their job descriptions so they become the “blog police” bent on hunting down offenders?
    How would staff time spent on “policing” stack up against the free service provided by those blogger who are currently informing staff of the existence of offending blogs?
    What data exists to demonstrate how many people are being “run-off”?
    And what data exists to illustrate where they run to?
    Given that a blog from wordpress.com is free, if bloggers who do leave the free blog hosting at wordpress.com simply download a free blog from wordpress.org and self host or hire a web host then what loss has occurred?
    And whom has suffered as a consequence of the alleged loss?
    What effect would expanding the three existing wordpress.com opportunities for blogger to promote “other sites” be likely to have?
    (1) header
    (2) link in sidebar
    (3) link on About page
    IMO expanding the advertising opportunities will give rise to an influx of new bloggers from the legions out there who want to game the search engines, go seo optimization crazy, and spam their blogs with ads all for a dubious few bucks a month. On top of that within the inflow we will probably find blog scrapers who create no content of their own and have strings of blogs acting as prostitutes for gaining minimal ad revenue.

    #32158

    i’m not asking them to start policing, i’m asking them be a little more forgiving about the blogs they do recieve reports on. right now, you could go to my blog, and suggest that i have too many links to my own site, and based on the criteria we saw earlier today, it would be reasonable that they remove my blog.

    also, you can’t put a link in your header. expecting people to type something out based on an image? unlikely.

    #32159

    timethief
    Member

    @kamel,
    It’s good to be able to dialogue this way – respectfully. And when it comes to linking between your two sites well, you don’t offer any means of purchasing of goods or services online do you? If not, then relax.
    P.S. It’s snowing on the coast – big time. The power lines will probably go down under the unaccustomed weight so I’m off to eat supper while we can still make it on the kitchen stove, instead of the camp stove. :)

    #32160

    well, enjoy. i can’t wait for the snow to get here.

    my point is that right now the TOS says that even just driving traffic to an external site is forbidden. if ‘linking’ is being read as ‘driving traffic to’, we’re all in trouble.

    #32161

    timethief
    Member

    @ kamel,
    :O please come on now and lighten up a little. I truly can’t see a huge purge of blogs like your own taking place.
    *sigh* There is such a sense of urgency and angst here that I can’t help but wonder where it’s coming from. *sigh*
    And as for snow well, you can have it – our lotus land driveway is a winding 300 meter long unpaved forest trail and the tractor’s broken down. Hi! ho! Hi! ho!

    #32162

    raincoaster
    Member

    Get yourself a nice pair of Cariboo Logging Horses. You can probably get a federal grant, for maintaining BC’s cultural heritage.

    I’m supposed to walk a dozen blocks to a James Bond party in four inch heels, but it ain’t happening as long as I have a cough and it’s snowing like Winterpeg in Vancouver. It looks very pretty from under the blanket though.

    As I said in the other thread, the line’s not all that fuzzy. If the obvious primary purpose of your WordPress.com blog is to make you money, either directly on the blog or at one link remove (CLICK HERE FOR BIG SAVINGS! CLICK HERE FOR BIG SAVINGS!) then it’s primarily “doing business” and should be on a paid host, rather than this which is a service WordPress provides for personal blogs. They leave blogs maintained by businesses alone as well as long as they are primarily informational, rather than sales-ish.

    You’ll note that on the blog in question, they had the option of simply leaving the link to their main site in the sidebar and removing the identical link they’d put in every single post. They refused; it was so important to them that they left WordPress over it. To me, this indicates that the link, not the blog itself, was the primary purpose for the blog, which is indeed a violation of the TOS.

    #32163

    it’s really a shame you missed seeing the blog in question. we’re talking about a personal tagline at the end of each entry. kind of like how lorelle does. the links were tertiary to any sale, hence my assertation that commercial/non-commercial speech was at issue.

    they didn’t refuse, they removed the links. they deleted their blog a few hours later.

    #32164

    timethief
    Member

    @rain
    *sigh* That’s exactly my read on the situation too and I said so, politely. Although you didn’t know this my horses became dream horses on November 7th. http://manypathways.wordpress.com/2006/11/14/long-may-they-run/

    #32165

    raincoaster
    Member

    I understood that the link was like a forum sigfile. It’s my understanding that the links went to their business website, so if they had 100 blog posts, their website would be recorded by Google, etc, as having 100 incoming links. That’s where the SEO thing comes in.

    While I can’t speak to these people’s motivation, there certainly have been people on WordPress who’ve started blogs specifically for this reason, and that is one very good reason for the rule against it.

    If the links weren’t of critical importance to these people, why did they leave over the issue? It seems they were treated with courtesy and fairness by the staff, and given the opportunity to come into line with the TOS, which they did, then abruptly left. I maintain that this indicates the links themselves were central to their decision to blog here; it’s fair to ask them to get paid hosting for something that is so directly business-promotional.

    #32166

    my guess is that they left, because despite the staff giving them a clear indication of how to avoid being deleted (unfair as it was), certain members of ‘the community’ continued to call them evil spammers for a couple hours after.

    the reason i’m still arguing this several hours later is that it’s ridiculous to be unable to link to a commercial site. i’m not running a blog here to drive traffic to my site, i’m running a blog here to document how i run that site. if i’m unable to link to said site, my posts become pretty empty pretty quick.

    the idea that site owners are somehow under special judgement is ridiculous. if linking repeatedly to a site is grounds for removal, then anyone who posts digg articles with a link to digg should be removed. it’s driving traffic to digg, right?

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