Getting the hang of Rockfield theme

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  • #3362148

    unklee
    Member

    I am transferring an existing WordPress site to a new theme, and my first choice was Rockfield. But I am finding it difficult because, out of the box, it looks very different to the demon site, and a lot of the features are not documented. (I am also finding Gutenberg to be difficult because it doesn’t seem to act the way the instructional videos say, but that’s another story!)

    If there is more extensive documentation, can someone point me to it please? If not, then I wonder whether someone can answer these questions please:

    1. A like button appears at the bottom of my home page with a whole bunch of people I don’t know – I think it must come from the theme, although the demo doesn’t have a like button on the home page. How do I get rid of this or (better) show the actual likes for my site?

    2. The footer isn’t easy to get organised. On a larger screen, the widgets sit over to the left and then on a smaller screen they move to the middle. On the demo they are always at the middle. Is there any way to lay out the footer better?

    3. If I choose to put several widgets in-page, can I sit them side-by-side in any way, e.g. by putting them all in one block?

    The blog I need help with is theway21stcentury.wordpress.com.

    #3362152

    unklee
    Member

    A couple of more requests for help please.

    4. Is there any equivalent these days of the old HTML elements for each theme? I would love to see one before I choose a theme, as it is better to find out before hand that certain elements are not as I like.

    5. As an example, my dot points in Rockfield don’t appear the way dot points usually do – only the first line of the text is indented, which makes the points look ugly and not stand out. Is there any way to change this within the theme and/or within Gutenberg?

    Thanks again.

    #3362558

    unklee
    Member

    I don’t know if anyone reads any of this, but I’ll keep posting questions, occasional answers, and issues.

    6. I now realise that the problem I raised in #5 is a Gutenberg issue. There doesn’t seem to be a way to indent paragraphs within a block – is that correct? So the only choices are to have numbered lists “outside” so the numbers stick out to the left of the rest of the text, or “inside”, in which case the text is aligned with the numbers so the numbers don’t stand out. Using margin-left in the CSS doesn’t seem to worl, at least not in Rockfield.

    I’m really trying hard to lie Gutenberg, but it isn’t coming halfway to meet me so far! :(

    #3363053

    unklee
    Member

    I’ll continue to document issues I have had with Rockfield so that someone from Automattic may see them and help resolve them please (your benefit as well as mine, I hope).

    JUst to refresh so you don’t have to read all the above, I have had a blog for many years with the design upgrade. I decided to change to a new theme (and I do like Rockfield) and to Gutenberg at the same time, and these are some of my experiences.

    1. The Like Button at the bottom of the home page shows a spurious list of people as liking the home page. The real list isn’t there, although I can add real people to it. The Like button on all other pages shows accurately. I can’t figure that. I’ve tried hiding the button and putting it back, adding likes, in the hope it will start to work correctly, but so far, no change.

    2. Originally the footer widgets sat right over to the left of the screen and I couldn’t work out why. But when I added a footer menu, they all came into place, I have no idea why.

    3. I originally had trouble getting bullet and numbered lists to appear the way I wanted. But I eventually found a way using CSS, so that one is solved.

    4. I think a little more documentation would help. Themes used to show an HTML elements page so potential users could see what was on offer, and this would help. Also a little more guidance on image sizes – the recommended featured image size is given, but what about the Hero image?

    5. Links didn’t show very well in the original Rockfield. Some were underlined, some were not, again I don’t know why. I resolved that with CSS, but someone who didn’t have the design upgrade or wasn’t familiar with CSS would have found that (and other timgs here) difficult.

    I am not complaining. WordPress is an amazing piece of software, Rockfield is a nice theme, and its’ all free! So thanks for that. But hopefully these comments may help you improve this theme, and help me it it looking right too.

    Thanks.

    #3363055

    unklee
    Member

    6. One more thing. I use the more button on blog posts. All my old posts come out fine, but the new post written in Rockfield and Gutenberg shows the “more” link at the extreme left, way outside the text area.

    #3363075

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Hi,

    The following responses refer to your first list of six items.

    1. A like button appears at the bottom of my home page with a whole bunch of people I don’t know…
    If Likes are enabled on a page, then any WordPress.com member that is logged into an account may use the Like button. It’s not necessary that you know who they are. Likes may be turned off on the whole site, on a certain content type such as pages or posts, or on specific posts or pages. See the section “Likes and Your Site” and its subsections and the section “Turn Likes On/Off on Specific Posts or Pages” of the Likes support page for relevant information and instructions.

    2. The footer isn’t easy to get organised. On a larger screen, the widgets sit over to the left and then on a smaller screen they move to the middle. On the demo they are always at the middle.
    The What’s On page (blog page) of the Rockfield demo displays on one widget in the footer widget area that is left-aligned. The other pages don’t seem to have any widgets displayed in the footer widget area. On a test site my widgets displayed just like yours, in two-columns, with the the left column aligned-left, slightly indented.

    Is there any way to lay out the footer better?

    Possibly. I’ll tag the topic for staff attention. Staff will respond here.

    3. If I choose to put several widgets in-page, can I sit them side-by-side in any way, e.g. by putting them all in one block?
    I don’t know. I’ll leave this one and numbers 4.-6. for staff or others to respond to.

    #3363077

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Correction:

    “The What’s On page (blog page) of the Rockfield demo displays only one widget in the footer widget area, and it is left-aligned.”

    #3363078

    musicdoc1
    Member

    I forgot to include links to the Rockfield theme guide and the Rockfield demo.

    #3363113

    unklee
    Member

    Hi, thanks so much for helping me out. A few responses….

    1. Most of the likes on other pages are from people who I know have visited my blog and liked it before and often commented. But the ones on the Home page are all unknown, and look very invented or spammy. Now when I think about it, I didn’t have a “Like” button on my home page until now, and checking via the Wayback Machine seems to indicate I virtually never have had one (I couldn’t find a time through 7 years and three different themes where a like button showed). So how did they get there? I had thought it was somehow a bunch of invented Likes used in the Rockfield theme, but I suppose that was silly. I now think it must have been some spammers who found a short time when there was a Like button. Do you know if there is any way to remove those “Likes”?

    2. The problem with the footer widgets wasn’t just the alignment, but the position – way outside the area of the text, over against the left edge of my screen (it is 1680 wide, and the text area is only 750px, so there’s a lot of space out there. Once I put the footer menu in, it has all come right for me, but it seems there may be some bug in the theme. The effect is similar to the More button, which also sits right out against the left edge of the screen.

    Thanks again for your help. As usual, some of my problems were self-inflicted or based on my poor understanding, but some seem to be small bugs. I appreciate you helping me out.

    #3363398

    musicdoc1
    Member

    From #1 in your most recent post:
    But the ones on the Home page are all unknown, and look very invented or spammy…Do you know if there is any way to remove those “Likes”?
    It may be Like spam. As far as I know there is no way to remove one or more Likes on a page and let the others display. It’s all or none. The most recent support forums topic with the tag “Like spam” is six years old, so I don’t know if the first of the suggestions made in the following topic is applicable now. See Edit or block “likes” from repeat offender spammers. You certainly may report suspect gravatars as suggested by @raincoaster in that topic. Staff may have more up to date recommendations. If staff doesn’t address this issue when they respond here, then please remind them of it.

    Now when I think about it, I didn’t have a “Like” button on my home page until now, and checking via the Wayback Machine seems to indicate I virtually never have had one…

    See the topic People like posts without viewing them?, particularly the paragraph by @timethief where she said:

    Your followers and anyone with a WordPress.com/Gravatar account who is logged into WordPress.com can “follow” your blog, “like”, “share” and “reblog” your posts and “comment” in several locations such as the Reader, without ever clicking into your blog and creating a single page view stat. Subscribers control how frequently they receive your posts (instantly, daily, weekly) and can comment without clicking into the blog.

    From #2 in your last post:

    The problem with the footer widgets wasn’t just the alignment, but the position – way outside the area of the text, over against the left edge of my screen…Once I put the footer menu in, it has all come right for me, but it seems there may be some bug in the theme.

    On my test site with Rockfield applied, on the latest Firefox browser, the presence or absence of a footer menu has no effect upon where and how widgets in the footer widget area display. However, staff should address this issue as well. The browser that you’re using may be a factor.

    #3363403

    macmanx
    Staff

    I agree with musicdoc1 on the footer issue.

    First, please make sure that your browser is up to date: https://browsehappy.com/

    If it is not, please try updating your browser or switching to a different browser.

    If it is, please do these two things:

    1. Try clearing your browser’s cache and cookies.

    2. Try with all browser extensions or add-ons temporarily disabled.

    Please let us know how each step goes for you, and which browser (and version of) you’re using if you’re still having trouble.

    #3363404

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Now when I think about it, I didn’t have a “Like” button on my home page until now

    The Like button was present on your homepage when I first viewed the site two days ago, present yesterday, and it’s still there. Were the suspect Likes present before the button was enabled?

    #3363526

    unklee
    Member

    Hi musicdoc1 and macmanx,

    Thanks so much for your interest and help.

    I am happy to accept that I had an inadequate understanding of the “Likes”, and that these are genuine Likes, though probably spam – most have strange dog & cat names and dog and cat websites. But I’ll cope with it. :) I am not sure if the Like button has ever been visible, but I can’t find a time when it was.

    But the shift of things to the left appears to be a genuine problem with either Rockfield or Gutenberg. I have added a page to my site showing four screenshots to illustrate this.

    When there is no footer menu, the footer widgets move way over to the left, outside the normal text area. When there is a footer menu, the widgets come back to where they should be.

    The “Continue reading” link is where it should be on blog posts written before Gutenberg, but is also way out to the left on posts written using Gutenberg.

    I use a Mac running OS 10.13.6 High Sierra and am currently using Brave browser Version 0.68.132, which is the latest version. But the same things happen on Chrome and I’m pretty sure on Safari as well.

    I hope that is helpful to diagnosing the issues. Thanks.

    #3363559

    kokkieh
    Staff

    Thank you for the screen shots, and the clear steps to replicate.

    I’m able to replicate the widgets issue – it only appears to happen at bigger screen sizes, though: on a 13-inch monitor I don’t see it, but on a wides screen it happens. I’ve reported it to our theme developers to fix.

    I’ve confirmed the issue with the more block as well, and have reported it to our developers.

    #3363568

    unklee
    Member

    Excellent! Hopefully a solution will be found. Thanks for this.

    #3363970

    unklee
    Member

    <i>The Like button was present on your homepage when I first viewed the site two days ago, present yesterday, and it’s still there. Were the suspect Likes present before the button was enabled?</i>

    Just to clarify, I meant I can’t recall having the Like button on the Home page until I started using Rockfield. I am happy for it to be there. I just thought there were spurious Likes there, but now I see I didn’t understand things properly. Thanks.

    #3364005

    musicdoc1
    Member

    @unklee,

    Understood and you’re welcome. : -)

    By the way, the <i> tag evidently doesn’t work here. You may use instead the “quote” button in the toolbar of a forum window to create a blockquote.

    Also, you might want to change the status of the topic back to “unresolved” in the sidebar here, in order to make sure that a no one closes the thread. Staff will respond again here when word from the developers is available.

    #3364012

    unklee
    Member

    Have done. Thanks.

    #3372336

    kokkieh
    Staff

    Just an update:

    A fix to the more block alignment issue was made yesterday, and is currently being rolled out. It could still take a few days before it becomes visible on your site, but let me know if you don’t see any change by the middle of next week.

    #3372340

    unklee
    Member

    Excellent! Thanks. I am enjoying use Rockfield, and am now actually enjoying using Gutenberg. So this will tidy up a loose end nicely. I’ll let you know if any problems.

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