How can I return the TwentyTen theme to paginating posts?

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  • #2179638

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Dear Happiness Engineers:
    When I chose the theme Twenty Ten (adinnerjournal.wordpress.com) this theme would paginate posts into blocks of about 10. If you went to the blog address, the first ten would load, and at the bottom, the link “Older Posts” would lead you to *a page of the next ten posts*. This no longer functions. The “Older Posts” link calls up an *additional* page-worth of posts and adds it to the first set on the screen, which totally doesn’t work for me – at least not after the first several pages are all loaded up there. I can’t figure out how to set this back to the previous setting. 2010 has other good functionality for me (the only theme I’ve found that had everything but a good black background), but this trying to scroll down with 100 posts on the screen – or 500 – is really messed up. Can you please tell me how to make the theme paginate and show *the next* 10ish posts, rather than bringing up *additional* posts. Thanks!

    The blog I need help with is adinnerjournal.wordpress.com.

    #2179910

    timethief
    Member

    Go here please Dashboard > Settings > Reading
    Locate and enable this setting:
    Blog pages show at most __ posts.
    Then click “save changes”

    #2179911

    timethief
    Member

    Also note this setting on that same page as you may have to disable it > http://en.support.wordpress.com/infinite-scroll/

    #2179932

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Thank you for this advice. I found the Reading page and also read the “infinity” site linked in your second post. On the reading page:
    1) I changed the number from 10 to 25 posts per page, and
    2) I noted that the “scroll infinitely” was *already unchecked*.
    I saved the settings. The blog successfully loaded 25 posts, but still “older posts” loaded 25 *additional* posts, even though Infinite scroll is (and was) unchecked. Now what?? Is there another way to disable this “infinite scroll” thing, please? Thanks a bunch.

    #2179933

    timethief
    Member
    #2179934

    musicdoc1
    Member

    The blog successfully loaded 25 posts, but still “older posts” loaded 25 *additional* posts, even though Infinite scroll is (and was) unchecked. Now what??

    25 posts displayed on the front page
    25 posts on the second page (reached by one click of “older posts”)
    25 posts on the third page
    etc.

    You’ll also have at most 25 results of keyword and tag searches, post archive searches by category and author.

    #2179935

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Yes. That is the page I looked at, and “Scroll Infinitely” is *already unchecked* on my blog. The only thing that support page says is to uncheck “Scroll infinitely,” but that is already done, and the infinite scroll was not disabled. Is there some sort of override? I can post a screen shot if you like. Is there some sort of other override I can do to stop this thing?

    #2179936

    musicdoc1
    Member

    @berkeleybarb,
    Sorry, I misunderstood the issue. I have precisely the same result, but hadn’t noticed it until you brought it to my attention. I dislike this change intensely. Essentially, it forces you to accept infinite scroll despite it’s being disabled at Reading Settings.

    You’ll notice, though, that the page numbers are still there as you scroll down. The pages accumulate on the front page as you add additional pages by clicking “older posts,” or choose to view any page other than page one. In other words, absurdly, you can not view page 2 without displaying the front page as well.

    #2179937

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    I don’t understand why I get 25 *additional* posts and you say you are getting pagination when you single-click “older posts.” The 26th post is showing right under the 25th, and the slider on the right is at the midpoint of the screen. There are 50 posts showing after one click of “older posts.” Do I need to log out and back in or something? No, I know that is not true, b/c the change from 10 posts per page to 25 happened immediately.

    I am unclear how the number of posts per page is related to the number of tag searches etc. That number was not previously 10. Or maybe this is a coincidence in numbers, and unrelated to the “25 posts per page” setting?

    #2179938

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    >musicdoc1

    absurdly, you can not view page 2 without displaying the front page as well.

    Yes, this is precisely the problem. How the heck do I fix it??
    Thanks for your concern, as well as the observation that this is “absurd” :)

    #2179939

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Hello?? Is there a Happiness Engineer in the house? Halpppp! We are caught in an infinte scroll!

    #2179940

    musicdoc1
    Member

    The 26th post is showing right under the 25th, and the slider on the right is at the midpoint of the screen.

    See if the URL changes as follows as you scroll down:
    Posts 1-25 …………… adinnerjournal.wordpress.com.
    Posts 26-50 ………… adinnerjournal.wordpress.com/page/2
    Posts 51-75 ………… adinnerjournal.wordpress.com/page/3.

    I am unclear how the number of posts per page is related to the number of tag searches etc. That number was not previously 10.

    The tag search https://adinnerjournal.wordpress.com/tag/acme-bread/ displays title links with excerpts of 25 posts, the last 25 posts with that tag. Change the number of posts to display setting back to 10, and see what the effect is on this tag search.

    #2179941

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Interesting. Yes – when the additional 25 posts appear, the URL does not immediately change, but if I move the slider just barely into “post 26 territory,” the URL changes to indicate page 2. Doesn’t solve the problem of how useless it makes the blog (journal, really) after 3 pages or so, but it shows that WP knows where I wish the pages would be ;)

    I didn’t initially get that you were talking about how many results are listed from tag search before the end of page, but yes, I have observed that stopping at 10, and would be very happy to have it be 25. However, I really just changed that number from 10 to 25 at the moment to see if the Settings actually changed when I saved them, and so I was able to observe that they did.

    #2179942

    Hey there!

    You’re correct that we no longer load an entirely new page for older posts. We load them below the current page of posts. This change was made a while ago.

    Is there something particular you’re having trouble with? Or do you just not like this feature change? It would be helpful to know exactly what about this change is bothersome so that I can relay that information to the team.

    #2179943

    musicdoc1
    Member

    @shawnajroberts,

    Or do you just not like this feature change?

    Hi. Merry Christmas. Yes, I just do not like this feature change.

    It would be helpful to know exactly what about this change is bothersome so that I can relay that information to the team.

    I’m making a list and checking it twice. Will deliver ASAP, with a wink and a nod.

    #2179948

    haha :) Happy holidays to you too!

    I definitely want to know what about it is rubbing you wrong. Here are some questions that might be helpful. Does it do something unexpected? Does it interrupt your workflow? Is it distracting in some way?

    #2179949

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    Thanks, shawnajroberts. What’s problematic I actually said in my original post. It’s ridiculous to be *required to*have 400 posts loaded into your browser if you are trying to scan through them. I don’t have a problem with the feature existing as an *option*. I have a MAJOR problem with the fact that you can’t turn it off. Personally, I totally hate the “infinite scroll” and have found myself disliking other sites that load posts this way. Further, I chose my theme carefully for the features I wanted, and now it’s got this bizarre behavior. My posts are formatted for this particular theme, and I can’t go through and change them all, and now all of a sudden the theme has gone nutso :(

    Why make something so radically different suddenly be mandatory, instead of optional?

    #2179950

    Thanks for the feedback @berkeleybarb!

    It’s ridiculous to be *required to*have 400 posts loaded into your browser if you are trying to scan through them.

    I’m really interested in what you’re trying to do on your site that you’ve clicked ‘Older Posts’ that many times. Right now, this sounds like a bit of an edge case situation, but I’d love to hear about what you’re trying to do so I can figure out if there’s a weak point in our design, or if there’s a better way for you to accomplish your goals.

    My posts are formatted for this particular theme, and I can’t go through and change them all, and now all of a sudden the theme has gone nutso :(

    I agree that its really frustrating when you put a lot of work into making your site look a certain way, and then something that’s out of your control happens and messes it up. Can you tell me what you want your site to look like and I can see if there’s a way to make that happen quickly for you?

    #2179951

    berkeleybarb
    Member

    I’ve tried several themes during the creation of my thousand-and-some posts on my blog(s) (I created one a year, but finally catenated them into one blog b/c I want to be able to access all the posts in one search), but finally gave up messing around and came back to 2010. Minimum main column width handles 600 px image. One side column w/ useful widgets. Has links from each post to the previous and following posts (one great-looking theme I tried did not, astonishingly, allow this. Say what??) Header photo space. I would LOVE to have a black background, but the only black theme that remotely worked was the aforementioned one that fails to iterate from post to post when reading them one at a time. Probably a lot of other things, but again, the appearance is not the issue. The behavior is.

    My question really is: clearly at one point you made it possible to disable Infinite Scroll. Why did you remove that functionality? What possible reason is there for elimination of this simple choice? Just put back the disable function and I’m a happy camper.

    #2179955

    The Infinite Scroll feature refers to whether posts automatically load as you scroll to the bottom of the page or whether you need to click on a button to trigger that change. We changed how those posts load, but you still have control over whether your site scrolls infinitely or not.

    As I said, I’m happy to pass on specific feedback about what you’re trying to do that is being hindered by the current set up. However, a general dislike of the change isn’t something that I can use as a reason for us to revert. If you want to answer the questions I posted above, hopefully we can figure out what exactly about this change is bothersome for you.

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