How to become one of “Top Posts from around WordPress.com”?

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  • #1528

    quotes
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    I was on the front page of the New York Times Cooking Section and couldn’t get top ranking.

    #1529

    raincoaster
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    Hey, I was #1 on the Guardian’s “Best of the Web” and not one blip on Top Blogs or Top Posts. There are some holdback factors we cannot seem to tease out, and since we’re not trying to game the system it just seems unfair. I had 2900 hits in one day on one post, and didn’t get in Top 100 Posts. I don’t think I’ve been in there for four months now.

    #1530

    I have been in the WP top 10 maybe a half dozen times, maybe even more than that since I don’t look at it that often.
    Now, … how in the world I did it? I have no clue!

    I have been averaging 3-500 hits per day, … and sometimes around 1000 hits.
    Tops has been 1800 in one day.

    #1531

    engtech
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    @quotes and @raincoaster: It’s all about hits on a specific new post. Hits to the main page of your blog doesn’t count. Hits to older posts don’t count.

    It isn’t that big of a deal anyways, you only get between 40-70 hits from being one of the top blogs of the day.

    #1532

    knoizki
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    “Hits to older posts don’t count.”

    That’s a shame, what happened to the “Most clicked” “Top Post” inside your blog? Like I’ve had 70plus views on each of my old posts, so it doesn’t really make sense at all to me. But then again, I’m happy with the visitors coming in leaving comments to my blog. Thanks for sharing that.

    #1533

    Hmmm, I’ve been making the last 3 days 550-800 hits per day, and all I’ve been making is top 100, fastest growing blogs :(

    #1534

    engtech
    Member

    @knoizki: most clicked / top posts in your dashboard are for your blog only, and there is no time limit on them. The WordPress.com Top Posts does have a time limit where it only counts newish posts.

    Yeah, it sucks when one of your older posts “pops” and it doesn’t get counted as a WordPress.com Top Post because it’s too old. But just think about how impossible it would be to get on the WordPress.com Top Posts list if it wasn’t limited to newish posts? Instead of needing 2,000 some hits you would need something in the range of 15,000 because you would be competing with every other wordpress.com post that has existed — not just the new ones.

    #1538

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    @engtech

    >>>@quotes and @raincoaster: It’s all about hits on a specific new post.

    This is not true for us.

    A brand new post had about a big spike for St. Patrick’s Day and there was no impact on BOTD.

    #1539

    raincoaster
    Member

    There was for me, though. I got 200-300 hits on a specific new post each of the last two days and it got me back on the Top Post list and boosted me about 40 places on Top Blogs.

    FYI being the #1 blog on WordPress is worth about 200 hits every 24 hours, if I recall from my long-gone glory days (sniff!). That is the one position which doesn’t rotate; all other blogs and posts in the top ten are actually in a rotation, so it’s something like one blog from the top 20 gets selected to be #3, one from the next 20 is #4, etc, etc. WordPress made those changes because of complaints the list stayed the same. All Top Lists are self-reinforcing, as you can see if you install the Top Posts widget; your Top Posts stop moving and stay the same all the time.

    #1542

    I’m curious about the blog of the minute– when I visit the page that shows this, its nearly always the same blog. Is this feature broken or something? As for top posts, I’ve hit once– just barely– with a specific post that had between 150-200 views. I’ve been in “fastest growing” a few times now, but frankly, this doesn’t seem very interesting. Of course, it helps that I already know I’m writing for a niche audience– for me to have a goal of thousands of views each day would just be silly.

    #1548

    I wish that we could have a top or hot list, … such as a top list for “political” blogs, one for those “techies”, one for “photoblogs”, … etc., … but I know that this would be a PITA for the WP gurus to put together.

    Just mouthing off some stuff!

    #1549

    drmike
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    Wouldn’t work. How would you divide the blogs up? Mine covers many topics. Would I be forced to only be listed in one category or would I get special treatment and multilisted?

    #1550

    timethief
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    Heck no matter what system is developed there will always be the gamers. And, setting aside the top blogs and posts on wordpress, the way these top blogger awards currently operating in the blogosphere are set up work is the gaming model:

    (1) you can nominate your own blog and vote for it too;
    (2) you can get all your blogging friends, family members and readers to do the same (block voting);
    (3) you and your blogging friends, family members and readers can agree to target a single blog from your block voting group and give it lots of hits on a particular day;
    (5) voila! you can then give that blogger an award, thereby demonstrating the principle that those with the biggest block voting blogging army backing them are always “winners” [:Q… gag me]

    #1551

    I actually wrote an entry on this, Timethief– http://startlingmoniker.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/panderbear/

    Its basically led me to the idea that Web 2.0 sucks. Its mostly people scrabbling for page views, which leads to money. If you could replace that with anonymous blogs and altruistic entries, a lot of the shit would simply vanish.

    #1552

    hromanager
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    Somehow Everyone in the world want to be an achiever and the world of bloggers is no exception. If You take a Scoccer player, Winning the world cup might be his ultimate destination so is the Bloggers on WordPress aim to have either their post or blog in the Top slot. However, One should wonder why we make assumptions and all kinda math on how the wordpress arrive at these stats when they do want to maintain their secrecy. To me, Any Award or a recognition make sense only when I know the ground rules. I play a game only when I completely understand the groudn rules of it unless otherwise I do not even think about it. Bloggers should actually feel appreciative of themselves in a way contributing to the world of digital media, their thoughts and research helping millions of people coming to net for their resources needs. This itself is a big achievement for a blogger. Anyways, I do not make any suggestions as to stop thinking on the math behind Top Blogs/Top Posts. Happy Blogging!!

    #1553

    timethief
    Member

    @starlingmoniker
    Good post! Here’s the link to the one I wrote
    WordPress top blogs aren’t on my screen

    #1554

    hromanager
    Member

    Thanks to You Timethief! Your views are perfectly logical. Any calculation based on some math what the programmer think is right doesn’t make sense to be on TOP. Whther Your blog or post is Top can be determined by the subject matter of the posts, how useful they are to readers and so on. Many bloggers use unethical techniques of multiple tagging to unrelevant tags to create vast penetration. Number of clicks doesn’t bring logic when compared to the number of right clicks (Right clicks meaning post read by people of same interest and find some use out of it). Or Even if someone post some porn material and attract huge readers, It might actually go to a top post category. Based on these perceptions, One shouldn’t care about a Top Post or a Top Blog. When I look at http://wordpress.com/tag/outsourcing The featured post is sitting there for the past 3 months without any logical sense. I’m very sure If I ask the same question to our WP guys, I’m very sure they defend it saying some confusing math to us. If I’ve a friend who bother about going to a Top Post category, I’d tell him, Don’t care about it!!

    #1555

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    @hromanager

    >>>When I look at http://wordpress.com/tag/outsourcing The
    >>>featured post is sitting there for the past 3 months without any logical sense

    Yeah, well, featured post is mucho broken in my category as well.

    #1556

    raincoaster
    Member

    Web 1.0 was all about pageviews as well, because it’s a human invention. Anything advertising or popularity driven will always want to quantify and compete on the basis of the numbers. After all, it’s impossible to measure “how much people love me” so we turn to things like clicks instead.

    #1557

    hromanager
    Member

    You are True Raincoaster…However If You take WP.com, WP always tell we guys it doesn’t entertain any ads at all on their blogs. So, Number of clicks doesn’t make sense for those bloggers on WP.com. Afterall, Blogs on WP.com can be categorised as Non-Profit Blogs. In a way, Indirectly, WP tells its bloggers to apply quality to the blogs rather than quantity. Quantity brings you higher clicks (keyword optimization). However, WP again uses number of clicks as one parameter for Top posts / Top Blogs. This is somewhat in contrast to their own policy which is for them to look into. As You admit, Its impossible to determine quality of each blog based on type of content and how useful it is, at the same time, it is also not so logical to determine the blogs based on Number of clicks which ultimately takes away the sanity of those recognitions like Top posts / Blogs.

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