Good looking out, Mark. LOL
I hope something will be done; my primary way of finding blogs is via tags, and I wouldn’t want to not find one because it is “mature”, since I can certainly decide for myself if I want to read it.
PS: how do you know if your blog has been labeled mature? I
“how do you know if your blog has been labeled mature? “
Send in a support and we will say.
This is one reason HIV/AIDS is an epidemic within the minority communities: lack of knowledge. As a sex educator, teens state, to me, they’re more likely to seek sexual health info from the internet than parents, relative, library, etc.. WordPress, you are guilty of stifling critical thinking amongst youth. Try teaching a freshman college class and experience the non-existence of critical thinking ability amongst our future leaders. It’s SCARY! Therefore, release the “mature” hold and allow education and critical thinking to take place. This is why our American ed. system is laughable when compared to most countries. Wake up WordPress!
I strongly concur, “…make it like over at YouTube where they have a page pop up warning of “mature” content, and if you’re still interested, they sign up and say “let me in” and boom, you’re in there.
The other idea is to make it a toggle switch in the dashboard, kind of like what Google has. If you don’t want your results to be filtered, you turn the filter off. It’s as easy as that.”
I’m appalled. Yes, lets do our duty to pass this info along.
I agree with WordPress’ decision. “Mature” content available freely on the internet promotes addictive and abusive behaviors regarding pornography and sex — especially violence against women and children. I believe readers interested in finding “mature” material should seek it out, if they want it, and I applaud WordPress for helping to make mature content less immediately accessible to everyone — children, adolescents, and adults. For a full and fairly well balanced overview of the internet porn phenomenon, please see the excellent documentary Traffic Control. http://www.trafficcontrolthemovie.com/
“As a sex educator, teens state, to me, they’re more likely to seek sexual health info from the internet than parents, relative, library, etc.. WordPress, you are guilty of stifling critical thinking amongst youth.”
Internet, yes. Porn blogs, no.
Knowledge is good but I am not going to start vetting blogs against what is or is not judged to be correct by certain organisations. What you seem to want is degrees of ‘mature’ and that is just impossible – at what point does education turn to porn? at what point does enjoyment turn to fetish? Should ‘safe words’ be discussed in the detailed context of their sexual use? Which pictures educate, which titillate and which disgust? And WordPress is international – it really can’t be drawn into any comparison with any education system.
There are blogs on here that advocate every possible sexual behaviour and I am not about to say “You are right” and “You are wrong”.
“I believe readers interested in finding “mature” material should seek it out, if they want it”
If someone wants “mature” material the rest of the internet is not exactly short of it.
“I believe readers interested in finding “mature” material should seek it out, if they want it”
If someone wants “mature” material the rest of the internet is not exactly short of it. “
Then allow people to find mature sites by allowing easier ability to search for such material using your tags, and then give a page to pop up that asks if they still want to continue on.
This will help in the opposite spectrum as well… How many times have I been at work, looking through blogs, and stumble upon a mature site with pictures and profane words that I should never have pulled up. By marking the material as “mature” before I go into the site, it warns me that this may not be something I want to access at work.
I am not sure if my blog Deviant Poetry is “mature” or not (despite the title.) I Never really thought about it. It contains poetry that is erotic in nature, but done (I think?) in a tasteful way. For the most part I do not use language common to your average porn site, or pictures. It does not take a rocket scientist, however, to figure out what I am talking about, and the themes are definitely adult. I started my site (this past week) as a personal yawn into the chasm of the internet. I am not promoting it as I figure that sooner or later the web bots and spiders will find it and the point will be moot. However, all of that being said, I do like the tag, category system that WP has set up. I like it so much that instead of hosting it myself as I have with other WP blogs I have created (WordPress.org), I would use a WordPress.com site to take advantage of the passive wordpress tag system.
I realize that a filter system, or self regulated toggle, dances around the base issue of determining what is mature and what is not mature and who makes that determination. But since a “mature” label now effectively eliminates the tag system, and is outside the creator’s control to dispute it or change it. I think that a dashboard pop-up or toggle filter would be a good middle ground for addressing both parties concerns; those wanting to see “mature” content (whatever that means) and those who do not.
crawling back under my rock now…
Quite the dilemma you’ve got on your hands, WordPress. However, we as blog writers have a dilemma, too. If I merely tag a blog post with the word “sex,” does that automatically mean I have a mature blog? I have tagged a few posts in the past several days with that word, even thought not a single one of those post would be considered racy or pornographic. One deals with abstinence-only education, which my thirteen-year-old son is experiencing right now in school. Another deals with linking to an article about body image in girls. Another discusses how many hits my posts tagged with “sex” have been getting.
My teenage daughter reads my blog and I’m not about to post something that is inappropriate. Of course, you’ve got to define “inappropriate.” In our moralistic society, practically anything sex-related is inappropriate.
In the end, we are at your mercy. Some sort of system like luvandjoy is suggesting would be helpful.
Look, rcwats, answering a post in the technical help forum is NOT a request for you to post exactly the same thing in my blog: have you posted it in Mark’s? I think not. You took something you’d posted in your blog already, posted it here, then triplicated it in the comments on MY blog. That’s spam.
And if you’re too dumb to find your own blog using Google, it’s not my problem. Why are you searching for a self-described NC-17 blog with the Safe Search on anyway?
raincoaster, to spread the word, you have to spread the word. Sometimes that means saying the same thing more than once, and calling someone dumb isn’t very nice. Please play nice. =]
“Quite the dilemma you’ve got on your hands, WordPress. However, we as blog writers have a dilemma, too. If I merely tag a blog post with the word “sex,” does that automatically mean I have a mature blog?”
No. Blogs are classified as mature by staff members when they think it’s necessary. It is not an automatic thing.
And if you look at the “sex” tag, you’ll find posts of mine in there about insect reproduction.
It isn’t all thongs and poontang :p
I could find the Hate & Anger blog with google, but it was way way way back in the list, for brand new posts. For it to be that hard to find something you are specifically looking for, the chances of average Joe finding it are slim to none.
That is an issue with links and the Google algorithm. Get more links, you’ll go higher on the list.
Why can’t the WP elite create a standard “adult” tag that a blogger can use on individual posts that are mature? It would be simple to keep those posts only (rather than the whole blog) out of the tag system.
The penalty for NOT using the “adult” tag on an adult post could be the same as it is now–getting your blog removed from the tag system.
erm – raincoaster is soooo playing nice.
i played nice when i simply deleted the same content you attempted to post on my blog – i just didn’t say anything about it.
that is spamming dude and nobody likes it. you get a reputation for spamming you’ll become a blogosphere pariah quick. nobody will have anything to do with you. not trying to bash – that’s just the truth and a healthy heads-up.
if you want other bloggers to know about your dilemma e-mail them privately, don’t clutter their comments with your agenda. most bloggers i know keep contact info posted on their blogs. i do.
if you contact us privately and there is interest in the cause we might actually start writing our own posts in support of yours.
a spam-bomb just raises the wtf flag.
hrm . . . now i’m off to email the guys at support and find out if the cat juggler is considered mature by wordpress . . . and if i am to let them know that they are the only one to ever accuse me of such (maturity that is)
I may be married to you but I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disagree with you and raincoaster about the spam comment.
I think your both being blog snobs.
Spam to me is someone trying to sell something. rcwats was trying to raise awareness of something that WordPress NEEDS to find a fix for. Mark says he is not the internet police, yet he is the one who decides what I am allowed to search for, and that is censorship in its best form.
So you don’t want it on your blog comments, delete it, but don’t give a guy a hard time to bring attention to something he feels powerless about. Just as you request, send him an personal email instead of shaming him in a forum.
Though spanked with the mature tag, I have been doing well with Google and have found many of my posts on the first page. Maybe you need more incoming links to get a higher pagerank. I lost traffic after being labeled as mature but you then have to find a new way of promoting yourself. I comment on two well known blogs I visit which has turned out quite well for traffic.
<<<Just as you request, send him an personal email instead of shaming him in a forum.>>>
pot, kettle – kettle, pot (that is to say, what do you think you are doing to me scolding me in public?)
I was trying to inform him. Unsolicited comments that do not respond to the post at hand is spam. That is not my personal opinion it is general consensus. I learned it from countless others and I’m passing it on in open forum so other people reading these posts can learn the same lesson.
The difference between this forum and my blog is that this is an open forum and my comment is on topic. My blog is not an open forum and his comment was not on topic.
I do not want to fight with you on the internet. I get that this is your friend and that you are standing up for him. I agree with what he is doing and have offered pointers here and on his own blog as to how to go about it.
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