Migrate the "wordpress.com" editor and standard WordPress dashboard?

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  • #2503887

    olalindberg
    Member

    First a bit of story. Sorry.

    I’ve been using WordPress for over 10 years. Both as a developer, user, writer and now the last years I work as an WordPress (& web dev.) instructor.

    Many of my students are small business owners and entrepreneurs. Some are sent by their (bigger) company. Most of them have never used WordPress or similar tools before.

    The first lesson we talk about WP, the web and how web pages work. All register their own (free) WordPress.com blog and starts to work on their site. Often they have achieved a lot between lesson 1 & 2 :) We continue to work with the dashboard in WP.com.

    Somewhere on lesson 3-4 most of them have their business page that they feel ready to start working on. In some cases I recommend they to continue to use WP.com but in most cases they need some extra plugins (often e-commerce) or already have a web host they want to continue to use.

    Overall WP works great but there are one major hick-up. The confusion that the WP.com editor and the standard WP.org editor differs so much. Are there any plans to merge them? I tried to find some info about it but I couldn’t. Are there any? All info is welcome.

    I’m not sure if this info ends up in the right place. Please tell me who to contact.

    #2503966

    auxclass
    Member

    The classic editor is still available from the main dashboard – it should be the same as the WordPress.ORG editor – I don’t know what the plans are for the Blue Death Editor – it has not been well recieved here – many bugs and other problems

    Classic Dashboard

    https://their-site.wordpress.com/wp-admin/index.php

    Classic Post Editor

    https://their-site.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php

    Change “their’site”

    #2503968

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    My 2¢/There’s a huge push to make the new dash THE dash for all users on all devices and the WPcom Support documents are being changed over to mostly reflect the new dashboard (but you can still find info relevant to the WP Admin dashboard if you click “view all” or “in WP Admin” in the links at the top of the support doc sidebar).

    As @auxclass said, you can instruct your students on where they can log in to access the WP Admin dashboard, but in my opinion you will absolutely need to let them know about the new dashboard because without a doubt they will be sucked into it at some point after clicking something.

    To the best of my knowledge, there are no plans to merge the two different dashboards/editors. My thought is that there’d be as big an uproar on ORG as there was when the wysiwyg editor was added.
    /My 2¢

    #2503969

    justjennifer
    Moderator

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    #2503970

    olalindberg
    Member

    Thanks a lot for your quick replies.

    I currently point them to use the /wp-admin link and we use the classic dashboard. The main reason for that is of course that they should be more familiar to that when they switch to their own self hosted WP on lesson 3/4.

    The problem is that they always end up in the newer blue editor by mistake. It happens ~10 times per lesson that they get lost and don’t understand why it doesn’t looks the same any more…

    I add the tag. Thanks!

    #2503974

    auxclass
    Member

    You be welcome

    sadly the staff puts links to the Blue Death Editor so you can end up there when you don’t want to – we used to be able to set a preference for the editors and after a few weeks the staff disabled that option

    #2504010

    chrisrudzki
    Member

    The confusion that the WP.com editor and the standard WP.org editor differs so much. Are there any plans to merge them? I tried to find some info about it but I couldn’t. Are there any? All info is welcome.

    There are no plans to “merge” them, but the new WordPress.com post editor is the future for WordPress.com (and can also be used for WordPress.org sites with Jetpack).

    My best advice would be to teach users both dashboards, but spend more time with posting in the new dashboard, especially as you can use it in conjunction with self-hosted WordPress by using Jetpack (specifically, the site management feature):

    http://jetpack.me

    #2504021

    brechbuehl
    Member

    Please turn of that peep boop editor on my blog. It is wasting my time and it is a waste.

    #2504023

    olalindberg
    Member

    My best advice would be to teach users both dashboards, but spend more time with posting in the new dashboard, especially as you can use it in conjunction with self-hosted WordPress by using Jetpack (specifically, the site management feature):

    http://jetpack.me

    Wow. Thanks! I didn’t know that was possible. That might make it better. But I still think it’s sad that they differ so much.

    I guess that this types of changes are necessary since both WordPress and WordPress.com usage are huge.

    Hopefully this plays out nicely the coming years.

    Thanks for your reply.

    #2504025

    brechbuehl
    Member

    Now come on, bipoop does not even load the post I want to edit anymore. Please, please, please leave me alone with that junk of yours.

    #2504027

    About this Jetpack editor: I’m on WP.com. Should I download it, or is everything that I need already there in the new editor?

    #2504028

    chrisrudzki
    Member

    About this Jetpack editor: I’m on WP.com. Should I download it, or is everything that I need already there in the new editor?

    No need to download it, if you’re using WordPress.com. Everything you need is at WordPress.com!

    #2504031

    auxclass
    Member

    JetPack is a collection of features from WordPress.COM intended to help people with WordPress.ORG installs do some thing easier and save them from looking at a lot of Plugin’s – makes a WordPress.ORG install work a bit (lot?) like a WordPress.COM blog

    #2504032

    olalindberg
    Member

    My best advice would be to teach users both dashboards, but spend more time with posting in the new dashboard, especially as you can use it in conjunction with self-hosted WordPress by using Jetpack (specifically, the site management feature):

    http://jetpack.me

    I couldn’t get it running. Can you explain how to use the WP.com editor on self hosted WordPress (I’ already using Jetpack) or point me to the right documentation?

    #2504035

    chrisrudzki
    Member

    @olalindberg:

    This guide should help!
    https://jetpack.me/support/site-management/

    Once you enable site management in Jetpack, you can head over to https://wordpress.com/sites/, select your Jetpack site, and manage it just like the others. (Of course, be sure you’re signed in with whatever WordPress.com account you used to connect Jetpack.)

    #2504036

    olalindberg
    Member

    Got it! Thanks!

    I looked on the wrong place. In the admin on my self hosted WordPress.

    #2504059

    gerryco23
    Member

    I just wanted to say how much I dislike the new post editor. It lacks features (such as editing images or adding YouTube video) and makes things which are easy in the classic editor much more difficult (for example, adding a caption to an image – have you tried pasting text into the ‘Add caption’ space?). The work space is squeezed, making the experience of editing much less pleasant.

    What I really dislike is that new floating Edit Post button on a published blog leads to the new editor, rather than the classic. It’s a roundabout journey via WP admin to the classic editor, but I still prefer it.

    I really cannot understand why anyone would think the new editor is any kind of improvement.

    #2504060

    olalindberg
    Member

    When I started this thread I just wanted to have answers to my questions. Not what it turned into – a discussion about problems with the new editor.

    Admin: Is it possible to close the thread?

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