New "improved" edit interface is still deleting numeric tags.

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  • #2311945

    seanmunger
    Member

    Nearly five months ago I inquired about a problem with the new “improved” edit interface (link: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/why-does-the-new-editor-delete-numeric-tags?replies=2). For some unknown reason the interface deletes post tags that consist entirely of numbers. It doesn’t modify them; it simply strips them out. For those of us who run blogs that deal with history and use specific dates as tags (1776, 1066, etc.), this is a serious and debilitating glitch.

    The old edit interface does not delete numeric tags, but as of today the “edit in classic mode” link, which used to be available in the new interface, has been quietly disappeared like a Communist Party apparatchik under Stalin. Thus, it now takes several more clicks and a good deal of luck to switch back and forth to “edit in classic mode” where it used to take one click.

    This change has the result of making the numeric tag deletion issue suddenly much more critical. I would like to ask, when will this bug be fixed? You’ve had five months to work on it; I feel that after that amount of time some imminent resolution of this issue is now appropriate. Alternatively, please restore the “edit in classic mode” link where it was. Thank you.

    The blog I need help with is seanmunger.com.

    #2312068

    jazzylemon
    Member

    “but as of today the “edit in classic mode” link, which used to be available in the new interface, has been quietly disappeared like a Communist Party apparatchik under Stalin.”

    EXCELLENT. Rubbish new editor is rubbish. It seems designed by mindless, selfie-taking children. I need numbers in my posts too. If it’s 100 years since a birthday, i want to write 100, 1915. Also there seems no way to copy and paste all your every day tags into the new editor. I really hate it. I’m not as flowery or as eloquent saying so but i’m still livid that this has been forced upon us.

    #2312103

    kokkieh
    Staff

    as of today the “edit in classic mode” link, which used to be available in the new interface, has been quietly disappeared

    I notice that the sidebar that was still on the right two days ago is now suddenly on the left. Perhaps that link got lost when they moved the sidebar. I’m tagging this for staff to follow up. Hopefully they’ll give us back that link.

    #2312117

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    Hi there,

    I’m sorry for the continued trouble with numeric tags in the newer editor. The issue was reported to our team, but I can’t guarantee if or when our developers will have an opportunity to address the issue. (Reported issues are generally prioritized in terms of how critical they are and how many people they affect — if others are experiencing the same issue, I’d encourage them to report it as well to help raise the priority of this particular issue.)

    I’ll certainly check with our team about the “Edit in classic mode” link, to see if there are plans to bring it back. In the meantime, however, I’d recommend bookmarking the classic editor to have a quick way to get back to it.

    #2312130

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    Hi Sean,

    I just confirmed with our team that there aren’t plans to bring that “edit in classic mode” link back to the newer editor. Given that, I’d definitely recommend bookmarking the classic editor in your browser so you can quickly open it to write new posts there.

    #2312132

    kokkieh
    Staff

    @rachelmcr

    Does that also mean browsers will no longer save editor preference via a cookie, seeing as the cookie was set by clicking that link?

    FWIW, this is going to upset a whole lot of people all over again. The new editor still lacks a bunch of functions available in the classic, and now it’s being made even more difficult for people to access that editor intuitively.

    #2312137

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    /no words…

    #2312139

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    Does that also mean browsers will no longer save editor preference via a cookie, seeing as the cookie was set by clicking that link?

    The link was removed from the editor, but that shouldn’t affect any existing cookies already saved in the browser.

    #2312140

    kokkieh
    Staff

    The link was removed from the editor, but that shouldn’t affect any existing cookies already saved in the browser.

    Until the next time someone clears their cache…

    #2312141

    timethief
    Member

    @rachelmcr
    I have words but they would not be considered polite.

    The link was removed from the editor, but that shouldn’t affect any existing cookies already saved in the browser.

    Until the next time someone clears their cache…

    I clear my cache frequently. Please bring back the classic editor link.

    #2312145

    seanmunger
    Member

    Rachel, thanks for your response, but unfortunately your suggested fix just doesn’t work for a number of reasons.

    Here’s the issue. There are key features for posts that can only be done in the new editor (for example, the “excerpt” function). Thus, I must write posts with the new editor, but because of the glitch that deletes numeric tags, the very last thing I usually do with each post is to click “edit with classic mode” so that I can add a numeric tag, save the post and not return to the new editor before it’s published so that it won’t strip out the numeric tag.

    Now that the “edit with classic mode” has been taken away from us–for what reasons you haven’t made clear–this can no longer be done. Bookmarking the classic editor is not a solution because I need to be able to toggle between classic mode and new editor mode on posts that already exist. Without the “edit with classic mode” link, how am I supposed to do this? If you could suggest another way to accomplish this, I’d appreciate it.

    I wouldn’t have to do this if the glitch involving the deletion of numeric tags is fixed. From your initial response, I understand you to mean that this glitch is not being fixed by the engineers, and may never be. Can you clarify that that’s what you meant?

    It seems to me that there are two mutually exclusive solutions to this issue.

    1. Fix the glitch involving numeric tags. (At least so far as I’m concerned, this is the most ideal solution). This solution would mean that “edit with classic mode” is no longer necessary. OR,
    2. Bring back “edit with classic mode,” which is the only way I know of to work around the glitch involving numeric tags.

    One of these two fixes needs to be implemented. Since it seems the engineers told you that fix no. 2 is a non-starter, we’re back to fix number 1, which is clearly the better option anyway. But, one of the two needs to be instituted, and very quickly.

    Thanks for your continued attention to this issue.

    #2312146

    kokkieh
    Staff

    @seanmunger

    Here’s the issue. There are key features for posts that can only be done in the new editor (for example, the “excerpt” function).

    In fact, the excerpt function is available in the classic editor. If you don’t see it, click on Screen Options at the top of the screen and make sure the excerpt module is selected.

    The classic editor has every single function of the new editor, and then some, so I cannot for the life of me understand why they keep pushing the new, glitchy, less-functional editor on us.

    I assure you there is no need to toggle between the editors. You can do everything you want to do from the classic editor alone.

    #2312161

    galois
    Member
    #2312166

    galois
    Member

    Hi there.

    You can always find the old/legacy/classic/the best editor…
    screenshot: https://cloudup.com/cfMJ02ama_r

    Cheers.

    #2312171

    timethief
    Member

    I have lots of words for those who practice selective end user feedback deafness and listen only to those who sing their own tune back to them.

    #2312184

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Well the only words I have right now are:

    When will WPcom remove from the Classic Post Editor the annoying, but can’t be dismissed, notice to switch to the “improved posting experience”?

    Fair is fair, after all.

    #2312203

    seanmunger
    Member

    @ kokkieh and galois:

    Thanks so much for the tip on how to get all the functions back in the classic editor. I didn’t know that (curious how they hide these things). This makes the work-around feasible at least.

    I still maintain that the best solution is to resolve the numeric tag glitch in the first place, which is a serious limit to functionality. The point is that we shouldn’t have to dream up elaborate work-arounds, especially when WordPress intends their new edit interface to be an improvement rather than a step backwards in development and ease of use. My guess is that the fix is probably simple; someone just needs to pay attention to the issue. I’d still like to hear Rachel’s clarification on that point.

    #2312206

    auxclass
    Member

    I know what and why they are doing this – but any reply of mine would not be suitable for small kids and most adults – my observation is based on a lifetime of picking up the pieces after employes & companies made disastrous decisions – – so sad to see this

    #2312209

    galois
    Member

    Thanks so much for the tip on how to get all the functions back in the classic editor. I didn’t know that (curious how they hide these things). This makes the work-around feasible at least.

    You’re welcome, @seanmunger :)

    #2312210

    galois
    Member

    my observation is based on a lifetime of picking up the pieces after employes & companies made disastrous decisions – – so sad to see this

    +10.000 Mike.

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