old/new dashboard/stats designs

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  • #2163535

    lulu13
    Member

    Why is there an old and a new stats and dashboard design? I am going schizophrenic between the two “systems” and don’t understand why you offer both. If you think the new one is better, then move everyone/everything there, period. I am mad every time I click on the wrong button (and it happens more and more often) and find myself in this new and odd “zone” and then it goes back to the old system without warning and… I don’t particularly like one system more than another but I just can’t stand the back and forth. It’s like you want people to go there (first with the “new and improved stats” and now with the dashboard and “new post”) and it’s just so confusing! I’ve been on WordPress for 8 years now, I am paying a lot of money to get premium service, and until recently, things went smoothly, but this new weird thing that pops up out of nowhere every now and then is driving me insane and I am becoming really upset because I don’t know what you want me to do and why this is happening!

    The blog I need help with is cestpasmoijeljure.com.

    #2163597

    timethief
    Member

    See here https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-post-editor-improvements?replies=5 and I’ll tag this thread for Staff to take note of your feedback.

    #2163601

    timethief
    Member

    I am mad every time I click on the wrong button (and it happens more and more often) and find myself in this new and odd “zone” and then it goes back to the old system without warning and… I don’t particularly like one system more than another but I just can’t stand the back and forth.

    P.S. I hear you. I have been here 4 months longer than you have been here and the rollercoaster ride has exhausted me. The joy goes right out of blogging when there are unexpected changes that result in new hoops to jump through and new hurdles to vault over to do things that were previously easily done with fewer clicks. That’s not to mention the stress of discovering new features don’t work or changes made cause brokenness that needs fixing. Just happily and successfully blogging becomes impossible when the playing field, the equipment, and the methods for reaching the goal posts keeps changing.

    #2163606

    timethief
    Member

    Why is there an old and a new stats and dashboard design?

    There are multiple threads re: stats not updating. Do you have that issue?

    #2163619

    lulu13
    Member

    Thanks for the link. I am so confused as to why the two systems co-exist, instead of simply improving one system, one area at a time… And no, I’ve never had problems with my stats.

    #2163621

    timethief
    Member

    And no, I’ve never had problems with my stats.

    Well that’s good news. :)

    Maybe some folks like you and I have a different frustration breaking point than others do. Maybe we ought to just suck it up and keep up playing what’s become like a game that we have to win at by reading new manuals on the sidelines and learning new moves frequently in order to enjoy publishing content with ease.

    #2163645

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Why is there an old and a new stats and dashboard design? I am going schizophrenic between the two “systems” and don’t understand why you offer both. If you think the new one is better, then move everyone/everything there, period.

    Why is there both vanilla and chocolate ice cream? One or the other, people. Come on.

    #2163650

    timethief
    Member

    The intent is for the new editor to replace the classic editor. The development of the new editor and new dashboard have surpassed the one year mark. There will be no choices once the new editor is fully fledged because the classic editor will be gone. There may also be fewer hardboard navigation choices when the new dashboard is full fledged. https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-post-editor-improvements?replies=5 Hence I don’t know why you posted into this thread and moved the timestamp forward so it will take longer for lulu13 to get a Staff response at all.

    #2163651

    timethief
    Member

    edit: hardboard = dashboard
    Sorry but I did not catch that error.

    #2163805

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    Hi there,

    Thanks for your feedback! Our team is working on a number of improvements that will be rolling out soon — our hope is to make it easier to manage all your sites at https://wordpress.com/ but I know the transition periods can be tough. There aren’t plans to remove the classic wp-admin dashboard, though, so if you’d prefer you’re welcome to keep managing your sites from there.

    And if there are specific links or places where you’re getting especially confused or frustrated, please let me know the details and I can pass them along to our team.

    #2163806

    lulu13
    Member

    Hi rachelmcr, thanks for your response. My biggest problem is that I never know when I’m going to find myself in the new system. I click on something and surprise, I find myself in the new system… or not. I never know. And that’s what I find annoying. And it keeps changing (e.g. now when I click on “edit my post,” I SOMETIMES find myself in the new system, which never happened before, etc.). It’s the constant switching and surprises that drives me crazy. Maybe if we could choose in settings which system we want to stay in, that might help.

    #2163807

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    I see what you mean — I’ll certainly pass that suggestion along to the team. :)

    #2163830

    nykeypad
    Member

    Please ask WordPress why I can no longer find the buttons I need on the reader. The changes you feel are terrific are not user-friendly and are more complicating. Please bring back the older Reader since I cannot find stats unless I put in my formal WordPress site name.

    Newer is not always better.

    #2163831

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    @nykeypad — What buttons are you not able to find on the Reader? I’d be happy to help you find what you’re looking for there.

    To find your site’s stats, you can head to your My Sites page. That defaults to showing your site’s stats first, and you can follow the links to manage other parts of your site, too.

    #2163833

    iqatrophie
    Member

    I hope it’s okay to chime in. :)

    • I can’t seem to find a Logout link in the new design.
    • Several strings aren’t shown translate although they exist in GlotPress e.g. (Days, Weeks, Months, Years, View Site)
    • The new stats page requires a lot more scrolling :(

    Cheers
    Martin

    #2163834

    galois
    Member

    Martin: for the first

    • I can’t seem to find a Logout link in the new design.

    https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/logout?replies=3#post-2164676

    #2163838

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    Hi Martin, it’s definitely ok! Thanks for the comments.

    I can’t seem to find a Logout link in the new design.

    As mentioned in the link @galois gave, you can click on your Gravatar in the top right and log out using the link by your username on that page.

    Several strings aren’t shown translate although they exist in GlotPress e.g. (Days, Weeks, Months, Years, View Site)

    Thanks for pointing that out! We’re already working on getting those strings working correctly so the translations are used there, although I don’t have a timeline for when the fix for that will be launched.

    The new stats page requires a lot more scrolling :(

    Good point! I’ll be sure to pass that feedback along to the team.

    #2163855

    iqatrophie
    Member

    @rachel

    That was quick. My mentioned strings are localized now. :D

    @galois

    Thanks for the tip. Found the logout link with your help. :)

    I have to say logging out is still to complicated now. Loading another page just to log out seems crazy. I hope they bring back an easy accessible logout link.

    I’d prefer a drop down menu when hovering over your gravatar. Similar to the one you get when you click the the notification icon. Would make sense to me in that spot as it’s related to the gravatar/user account.

    #2163856

    galois
    Member

    Martin: I totally agree with you. :)

    #2163868

    rachelmcr
    Staff

    I know what you mean about logging out being more complicated now — you’re not the only person to mention it, and that feedback has been passed along to our team. I can’t promise that it’ll change, but we’ll certainly consider other options!

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