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  1. Seriously, what is the problem if people people what to go the blogs for reading the posts. I don't think its that difficult. It was possible a few days ago so you just have to go back to that. We love WP and just want few things to be the way it was. :)

  2. All of the above. (I can't speak for the mobile owners as I don't have one. I do have a toothbrush, though.) The new reader is a pain to use. And I don't have the time to read new entries via email notifications, either.

    Suggestions for a new reader: a) direct links to the entries, b) smaller fonts and smaller pictures, so you can see more posts at once - and c) please remove the 'reblog' button.

  3. Not only is broken in all the ways mentioned already by myself and others, it doesn't even show all the blog posts! I checked this morning, more to see if it had been changed back yet, but also to panic over all the blog posts I am missing (November is perhaps the busiest blog month what with it being NaBloPoMo remember! And NaNoWriMo and I follow several writing blogs) only to find only nine new ones since yesterday morning. This does not seem right, so I go to my list to check on individual blogs. I know my husband posted one since I last checked, which was not in this morning's feed, and yes it was there when I looked at the feed for his blog. How many others are missing? I suspect more than half!!!!

    Jobs for today: check out Bloglovin' and other blog readers...

  4. @ Knotrune. Actually that's quite normal. I always scroll back a day or two to see what new posts - a couple or 10 - have appeared amongst the ones I've already seen...

  5. @colourcottage Yes, I've had that too, but it's usually only one or two, not more than half the amount! I frankly can't be bothered to check to see how many it is, this new format is just too annoying.

  6. Hating the new reader with the intermediary page. Please bring back the former functionality.

  7. Folks,

    I don't think this is going to change back amy time soon :-(

    I found this old post of Timethiefs and it seems this development has been on the cards for a long time and was even known about by Timethief on her blog way back in August in her post here:

    You will find on that post the paragraph

    our Reader developers have let me know that the ability to display the full post from the Reader hasn’t yet been rolled out to all users, only some. They hope to launch it for everyone very soon

    I thought Timethief had remained quite quiet on this issue as it seems she has been doing exactly the same as me and setting the feeds to SUMMARY in an attempt to prevent people reading her posts 'off blog' so she can get her page views.

    Curiously I've just inspected the code on both the popup window and the blog pages and it seems the Quantcast stats hook is in both?? So it would seem that if a user opens up the window by clicking the blog title in the reader then chooses the view original post option they will record TWO page hits for WordPress. I'm not sure if WP then filter out the first before generating our page stats but basically my WordPress stats are now so far out of sync (almost double) my statcounter stats that it seems WP has been playing with ways to make their stats look better in order to gain more advertising revenue rather than any change being made for the benefit of us WP users. Sorry WP, that is just how it appears, especially with the lack of explanation from WP for the reasoning behind the changes.

    I'd like a full, detailed and honest explanation of the reasons why the WP developers changed the reader to work like this as I can see no logical reason to explain the change other than 'exagerating' stats? It makes the reader experience worse for every user group whether using PC, tablets or phones.

  8. Anyone know of a reader that will import the wordpress xml file?

  9. I would also like to see the like, reblog and follow options removed from the reader and everywhere else other than the bottom of the posts from within the blog itself. The current situation simply encourages spamming.

    If WP don't believe this spamming happens then please read this post here of a self confessed spammer:

    In short he recommends:

    Like 100 blog posts (make sure they’re under 5 or 6 likes. (If it’s over 6, don’t like it)
    Leave 10 comments per day
    Follow 50 Blogs per day
    Dedicate 1 hour per day to completing this task.

    Now from reading that it is pretty damn obvious that particular person is not reading the blog posts and has no real interest in the bloggers or the subjects that he is liking. He is simply spamming to gain more hits from himself which will give him revenue from ads.

    The reader makes life SO easy for spammers as they can rapidly like and reblog lots of posts. If WP claim to be changing the reader to improve our life then not only should they roll back the recent update but they should REMOVE the like and reblog links.

    This would be a 5 minute job for WP developers and would please far more people than it would upset so why has it not been done??

  10. My stats have tanked, half the blogs I follow do not display properly requiring more work to visit. WordPress publicizes the fact that you can now colorize your dash board but there is complete silence on this arguably more serious change to reader. Some people, who disagree with the change, got a preview in August, all very confusing and worrying that the comments here are being discounted.
    At least explain. Paying customers at least deserve some word on why the change was made and how we are expected to work with it.

  11. @mud4fun: Catering primarily to the "make money blogging while going snowboarding"-bloggers is perhaps part of a conspiracy to get everyone over 30 off the internet, LOL. Being real, ordinary and wanting proper conversations with people around the globe simply blocks the pipelines or something. ;-)

  12. @colourcottage:

    If you're on Windows, try out GreatNews

    It imports the wp-exported html-File and works although it's a beta

  13. Thanks, I'll check it out!

  14. initforthekills

    My number of views has decreased by half since the new reader came out. This is ridiculous.

  15. I'm currently getting more stat hits from the WP search engine that updates the 'My Blogs' page with screenshots of my blogs than actual views.

  16. This is depressing. Opening the window on the reader may show up in total hits, but it does not seem to reflect in the detailed stats. This looks to me like a "corporate" decision that will not be reversed no matter how loud the community screams. The stats problem might get fixed.

    It is a real bummer for those who have invested in premium themes, or have done a lot of work to give their blog a distinctive look.

    If there is so much concern for mobile users, why is it that teh carousel does not work right on the last three Android phones I tried it on?

    My blog consists mostly of photography and a phone is way too small, to view it properly. Most phones are cinema aspect ratio, so most photographs don't fit right. Why doesn't that get fixed?

    Timethief, if you don't believe me go look at my blog or any other photography oriented blog using galleries.

  17. mishunderstood

    It is obvious that the new reader is disliked in so many ways. I don't know what it takes to make them listen, but I decided to blog about it!

    Here is another place to vent and a poll to express how you feel about the reader changes.

  18. @ronscubadiver

    It is a good job my wife wasn't around when I just visited your blog because not only do the pictures show up fine on my phone, they show in very graphic detail......;-)

    The gallery is also working fine for me on a Nokia 925 windows 8 phone.

    I'm going to have visions of girls in chain mail bikinis stuck in my head for the rest of the day now, thanks!!!! ;-)

  19. @ronscubadiver

    Sorry, I just realised I was within the wordpress app on my phone when I accessed this thread and clicked on your user name. Thus your blog opened fine in the app and the posts appeared correctly OK and the gallery loaded up and scrolled through OK.

    Sadly I also tried accessing your blog from IE browser on the phone (not from the WP app) and your blog then is not correctly formatted, appears random and the gallery doesn't work but instead you get huge pictures that don't fit on the page properly and can't be made to fit either. The images have next/previous links above them for navigation but it is very clunky.

    Can you have a look at your blog settings and see what you have steup for mobile phones?

    I'm curious because I found with my own blog theme (mistylook) that by actually disabling the mobile friendly setting the blog was then displayed correctly on my mobile and the categories that were previously placed at the bottom were then back on the right side. Since turning off the mobile friendly setting I've had a huge jump in blog visitors with some days as much as 40% of my views coming from people on mobile devices. I suspect this is because they can now see the categories on the right hand side which on my blog are vital for site navigation through the hundreds of technical articles. True, the font sizes are now tiny as the site is displayed exactly as it would be on a PC but with very modern smartphones like mine it takes just a tap of the finger for the phone to automatically zoom and fit the central post section onto the phones screens, another tap to zoom back out. A quick flick of the fingers zoom the categories and I can choose one then go into other posts. It is for this reason that I think the wordpress developers are actually way behind the times, most new smartphones have large and superb quality high resolution screens (my Nokia 925 has a 4.5" screen and runs 1280x768) that there is simply no need to have a clunky basic large font window with the re-formatted post in it.

  20. I used to LOVE reader. Now I can't even get to the blog without opening a new page and clicking on GO TO ORIGINAL POST. Of course I want to go to the original post! That's why I'm clicking on it in the first place.

    The new design is very hard to follow as well. I liked the old format SO much better - Picture, then blog name, then the first few words...

    I'm not against change, but the changes need to be good ones. Please go back to the old Reader set up, WordPress, or something similar!

    Thanks for a great blog site and for listening to your users!

  21. davidoakesimages

    After the initial negative comments about the new reader style I had naively though that WP had reversed some of the changes. In particular that all blogs with an image(S) included one image in the reader preview. So I was surprised to fin that today we are back to a an arbitrary selection of which blogs will have an illustration and which don't. Add that to all the other negative comment and you do have to wonder if WP ever listen to users....but may be that is just a stupid idea

  22. Change for the sake of change? People have to justify their jobs.

  23. The recent changes to the WP Reader offend my sense of aesthetics and interfere with my desire for simplicity and logic in my online dealings.

    I had a few problems with the old Reader, but this new version makes me realize how good I had it. When accessed from my iPad, the current WP Reader is little more than a mess of unnecessary clicks and dead-ends...especially when I'm trying to interact with a site. These recent changes are definitely a big step in the wrong direction.

  24. I no longer have any issues at all with the Reader redesign. I exported the OPML file of all the sites I follow and am now reading them elsewhere. I apologize for the possible lack of page views on your sites as a result.

    What does impede my ability to manage my sites efficiently is the redesign of the "My Blogs" tab.

    What changed:
    From a simple text list with direct links to key functions (Manage Pending Comments!) to a widely spaced vertical index (MOAR SCROLL!) with site thumbnails (What, I don't recognize my own children?!) and only partially useful links. I ask you, how many times a day will I be changing my Sharing settings or Customizing my site? Obviously someone thinks I should be.

    And I've already posted at length (HA!) about the change to the "Comments I made" tab.

    So, dear, maybe a community-wide survey about how we community members would like to use our front page would be in order.

  25. @mudforfun

    Thank you for the visit, and sorry about the brain damage. What I found is when accessing the blog from the reader the gallery displayed correctly at first by showing image attachment pages instead of using the carousel. Then I clicked on the blog title at the top to get back to the home page and tried another post and that put me into the dreaded carousel.

    The theme I use, Twenty Twelve is supposed to not need the mobile friendly setting. I could disable the carousel, but that means I have to redo most of my galleries. It is worth a try.

  26. @mudforfun

    I checked and the mobile theme was enabled so I disabled it. Also I disabled the carousel which does not work right on mobile phones, at least the android phones I have tried it with and that is with more than one browser.

    It is difficult to enjoy photography on anything smaller than a tablet. I have seen the sight work 100% correctly (including the carousel) on an iPad.

  27. After some testing it appears the problem with the carousel on mobile phones is it gets confused if the orientation of the device is changed.

  28. mishunderstood

    The changes to the reader are baffling. None of them have any benefit that I can see, except to be annoying. I believe that most members DO NOT LIKE the changes. I have started a poll that reflects this. Let them know how you feel. Join me in blogging about it.

    WordPress, are you listening to your members?
    The reader used to wonderful. Why mess with a good thing?

  29. @ronscubadiver

    Yes, I see what you mean, if I change the orientation of the phone while the carousel is open it doesn't re-align correctly into the landscape format and ends up partly off the screen and with images overlaid over images so it is not just an Android problem then as mine is a windows OS and it was in an IE browser.

    So really we are stuffed at the moment because the WordPress App works great for managing the blog, viewing stats and answering a few comments but it will not allow lanscape orientation at all so makes viewing wide format blogs or galleries tedious. Then the App also has a distasterous bug of not working with the phones back button so if I go into your blog from the reader there is no return to reader link shown on the blog so I have to press the phones back button but with the wordpress app that takes me straight back to the apps home page rather than the reader. I then have to go back into the admin, choose reader, find the next post and go into that etc, etc, basically unusable. However if I use the IE browser to access the sites I can use the reader to go in and back out of posts OK but then all the admin stuff is broken and the menu options, drop downs etc all end up either behind each other or off the page so are unusable. Since the last few days worth of WP updates have rolled out WordPress is now just about unusable on my phone and not much better on the PC. I've hardly read any blog posts this week as the reader is so painful to use.

    On top of that they've meddled in other areas too, now when I go to 'my blogs' the link to go to the dashboard has gone and instead has been replaced with Posts, Pages etc. This is annoying as I liked to go into the dashboard on its home page.

  30. PS @ronscubadiver, I've had a read through your site and noticed that you believe you've received a million hits in two years. How are you measuring your hits?

    Are you aware that beacuse you have galleries on most of your posts WordPress may be artificially increasing the page hits on your blogs stats by a VAST degree.

    For example, if you have a gallery with 50 pictures in it and ONE person visits ONE page of your blog and launches the carousel and that person scrolls through all the pictures your WordPress blogs stats will record FIFTY page views. Of course in reality the genuine views will be ONE as recorded on Statcounter or Quantcast etc.

    While it makes us feel good to see huge numbers of page views if you have the ad packages you may be dissapointed in what revenue you actually get as it will not be based on the 50 hits but the 1. I've seen many complaints on the Net about wordpress's Ads package and how little it seems to pay out compared to how many hits people think they are getting, I suspect the 'artifical' page views could be to blame. I use statcounter to record my stats as it records an actual visit on an actual page. While the page views count is far less than my WordPress blog stats, I do at least have a better feel for reality rather than WordPress World!! :-)

    PPS. I also discovered another wordpress bug while on your site. If I was viewing pictures in the gallery from within your sections, occasionally when exiting the gallery it would shoot me back up to the top of the section rather than return me to the place where I was in the list of posts. This was mighty infuriating when I'd scrolled down through lots of posts. I've seen this happen on the reader too so I think it is a widespread issue but not sure if it just on my Windows 8 phones or all phones?

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