Reblogging

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  • #485501

    readolivia
    Member

    Thank you
    : )
    I had mostly pages sitting on that one and so missed..
    For once, I thought WP heard me………..

    #485502

    bokunosekai
    Member

    Has WP created an opt-out yet?

    I lost my will to write :( and even thinking of a self-hosting web…tho the truth is I really really like WP and don’t want to leave…but if this re-blog continues…I have no option but to move my blog :(

    #485503

    Mark writes

    The admin bar belongs to the user, not the blog. How would opt-out work? Would they be able to favorite a post on every site powered by WP.com except for yours? Would we prevent copy and paste as well?

    This is the problem. Perhaps it should have been attached to the blog, instead of the user, creating the opportunity to opt-out. Much like the “rate this” feature. Individual users could have a “like this” button in the individual blog posts. I have opted out of the “rate this” feature, you can’t rate a post on my blog. I would like to opt out of the “like this” feature, so that you can’t re-blog either. It’s really a very simple construct, and I don’t understand why WP finds it so difficult. Take the coding out of the bar and put it into the construct of the blog. Make it the tool of the writer instead of the reader.

    #485504

    jintyinky
    Member

    I am not adding any postings to my blog while this reblogging feature is on it, and if i don’t get a say as to whether or not i actually want it on my blog (i damn well don’t) then the only option left for me is to leave WordPress. But why would WordPress care about that anyway, i am after all just a tadpole in a very large pond. I do, however, have 4 other blogs here, besides this one. For me to leave and start my blog elsewhere is easy because i blog for myself really, but for others who spend a lot of time and effort on their blog(s) it is not such an easy choice…and there WordPress have you with this feature…over a barrel.

    #485505

    maidiebike
    Member

    I hope to try all this feature still…am in a medieval German town right now. Thx for the answer on unreblogging.

    #485506

    phoxis
    Member

    Introducing a disable feature probably will result in almost everybody disabling this feature, because a huge mass wants to reblog others post, but doesn’t want theirs to be reblogged, which will render this feature unused, and result in decreased traffic. (?)

    #485510

    bokunosekai
    Member

    @Jintyinki Me too, I don’t to add new post to my blog… But I am not sure I want to move out…I really like WP features.

    God…I’m in dilema right now. I hate that reblog button but I like the other feature.

    This sucks!!

    #485511

    jintyinky
    Member

    @bokunosekai as i said earlier in this post, it’s a Catch 22 situation. I don’t want to leave WordPress either but i also don’t want people reblogging from my blog as it’s a sketch blog. It certainly IS a dilemma as i am so reluctant to add anything to my blog now. It’s been a few days since i added anything.

    #485512

    apeatling
    Staff

    Yes, only part of the post is reproduced. But “part” includes the first image to be found in the post, and it also includes videos and any other shortcode objects (for instance an audio player) if they are at or near the beginning of the post.

    Yes, it includes a thumbnail of the first image, no it does not include audio or video or other shortcode objects. Why not try it first?

    Because a huge mass wants to reblog others post, but doesn’t want theirs to be reblogged.

    How did you come to this conclusion? I’m only seeing around 30 unique posters on this thread concerned with reblogging, out of multiple millions of WordPress.com users.

    #485513

    jintyinky
    Member

    How do you know that every single person on WordPress has actually seen this reblogging feature?? Or even knows about it.

    #485514

    timethief
    Member

    @jintyinky

    I thought you might be interested in this. It’s a summary of the limitations of fair use from Jonathan Baileys article here http://www.blogherald.com/2008/02/18/the-limitations-of-fair-use/

    1. Focus on commentary and criticism: Make sure that you are using the work to talk about it. Using a passage from a book to review it, quoting from an essay to rebut it or showing a clip from a TV show to comment on it are all likely fair uses.

    2. Use as little of the work as possible: Use short quotes when practical and only thumbnails of images. Really hone in on what you need to use and leave out anything you don’t.

    3. Attribute obsessively: Always make sure that you attribute the works you use, not just to help strengthen your point, but to show good faith. Though not always important to a fair use argument, it discourages any potential conflicts before they happen.

    4. Focus on transformation: Finally, and most importantly, make sure that your use of the work does not replace the original, but expands upon it. When using someone else’s work, as yourself the question “Do people, after seeing my use of the content, have a reason to view the original?” If the answer is no, then the use is much more questionable than it would be otherwise.

    When TSP reblogged my post the result was 75 words from the beginning of the post and a thumbnail image. My copyright in part states: ” “A brief excerpt of content (up to 50 words) may be quoted as long as a link is provided back to the source page on this blog and the authorship is correctly attributed.” The full page can be viewed here > http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/copyright/

    He was not able to select any specific excerpt. The software selected the first 75 words of text form my post. The space allowed for his unique contribution was provided above the reblogged excerpt which was properly attributed BTW.

    The position being taken by wordpress.com appears to be that their reblogging feature does fall within the parameters of Fair Use. This announcement was made on June 1dt and it’s now June 4th. We are not singing the song they want to hear and IMHO this is a lost cause.

    I believe that where it stands is that those who do not like the feature can:
    purchase a CSS upgrade and remove the unwanted feature;
    make their blogs private;
    or leave wordpress.com.

    #485518

    jintyinky
    Member

    Thanks @timethief for all that, that’s very interesting. I can’t change my mind about this reblogging feature, it’s a downward slide for blogging from here on in. If i wanted to spread my content with ease i’d put it on Facebook (which i don’t do). As i said earlier, unfortunately the opt out for me is to leave WordPress, because making a blog private is like going out in the rain with an umbrella and not using it- it’s pointless. Thanks again for the info.

    #485520

    sonofbruce
    Member

    For the record, I have a couple blogs on WordPress.com where I will be pleased to let people reblog content, and if my main blog were posted here, I wouldn’t block it there, either. The two sites I mentioned in this thread where I have blocked it (and/or the admin bar as a whole) each represent a case where the author or authors expect additional copyright protection, and it’s lucky that I’d already purchased CSS modification. If not, I’d be as put out as the other posters in this thread. So even though I recognize the value of the the feature for many styles of blogging, I do think y’all goofed by not giving us the ability to opt-out. To me, the thing that distinguished WordPress.com from, say, Facebook is that it’s not some bland, one-site-fits-all McBlogger platform. It saddens me to see you moving in that direction.

    #485521

    devblog
    Member

    You guys do know you’re beating a dead horse, right?

    #485523

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Probably.

    #485524

    andrew
    Member

    @d, social media and dead horses go together like… a (live) horse and carriage.

    This seems like as good a time as any to state that I don’t like the reblog feature, but don’t see it as a big deal either.

    #485525

    raincoaster
    Member

    It certainly has room for improvement:

    – a “reblog trail” like Tumblr has can’t be that difficult (I know them, and they’re not geniuses)

    – 75 words is a LOT, so I believe that could be reduced

    – perhaps a fourth Privacy setting “no reblogs” could be added, although it would be misleading because anybody could reblog manually, just as we’ve all done up until about three days ago, when the feature was introduced.

    I’m certainly NOT going to apologize for acquainting people with their legal rights, even if certain bloggers don’t like it.

    #485526

    sonofbruce
    Member
    #485527

    arifsali
    Member

    So instead of beating the dead horse, I thought I check the blogger after what seems like a hundred years. Their draft.blogger.com has some super awesome goodies (I think Techcrunch woke me up to this today, I’m still a WP.com fellow).

    #485528

    devblog
    Member

    I understand where you guys are coming from, but I was just saying based on past experiences here at wp.com. Other volunteers that have been in these forums as long as I have know that once the “WP Masters” say no/yes to something… there’s nothing us “commoners” can do to change their minds.

    Some people may move their blogs to another platform, but their numbers are (really) small compared to those who sign up every day… Hence the gods don’t care about how the mortals think/feel about a feature…

    Again, I’m just saying.

    I liked the reexaminations, btw.

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