The "new" editor

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  • #2403222

    patzmich
    Member

    Okay, I’ll admit it. I was wrong. I’ve been resisting the “new” editor since its get-go. I even bookmarked a page that would take me directly to the old editor just so I would not have to look at the “new” one and its beep-bong-bing thing. But I tried it again yesterday, and I like it. Maybe it’s been improved. I don’t know.

    There is one thing. The Draft and the Publish buttons should not be bumping one another. Too easy to hit the wrong one, which is to say the Publish button. Move them farther apart.

    Still not too fond of the beep-bong-bing thing.

    The blog I need help with is unseenmoon.wordpress.com.

    #2403345

    gayflashfic
    Member

    I do not like it. It is crap. It is too slow and too simplified. Half of the things you used to be able to do you can’t anymore, like add categories and access ALL your tags (not just those to ‘c’). And it is almost impossible to get onto your website admin, and then to actually find your way back to viewing your actual website? Almost impossible.

    Why did it change? There was no need to change it. Did you get someone new on the job who had to ‘prove’ themselves by redesigning it?

    I need to repeat myself, why did it change? There was nothing wrong with the old one. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”

    Man, it drives me mad and has really put me off wordpress.

    #2403356

    patzmich
    Member

    You are quite right about some of the related items. I was just talking of the editor itself. I don’t find it slower than the previous method.

    Why did it change? As you note, because someone needed to keep busy, of course.

    #2403358

    gayflashfic
    Member

    I want to ‘like’ your comment, but there is no button, so … “like”
    (smiley)

    #2403380

    luckyotter
    Member

    I agree about the new editor. I really hate it. It’s dumbed down and doesn’t do half the things the old editor did, plus the beep beep boop thing is so annoying. We are not 5.

    #2403381

    jackalsiii
    Member

    I don’t like the new editor either. I also don’t like how, from my blog, when I click ‘edit’ it takes me to the New Editor (it makes sense) so then I have to shake my head, go to my Old Editor (hopefully that never goes away) and go from there.

    A few things the new editor could do that the old one can, that would make it nicer –
    Make the tags easier to add, if I start typing “Be…” show me what tags I’ve used prior that start with “Be…” that way I don’t duplicate tags or if I’m about to mistype a tag, I can catch myself.

    Actually I just checked and they apparently fixed that, so that’s nice. I still prefer the Old Editor, it just looks cleaner and I like having the post box in the middle left and the Categories and Tags on the right, it just makes sense to me.

    Good job fixing that Tag issue! It has been a few months since I attempted to use the New Editor.

    #2403385

    cjkainz
    Member

    I wish I could find something positive or productive to say about the updated editor or the administrative tools in general, but I can’t. I normally let change slide, but the platform — starting with the editor and rapidly descending into post management — is becoming a user experience mess of fixes and changes that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

    From a workflow standpoint, like most “updated” user experiences these days, the editor changes slow things down and diminish usability. It is like the design team has forgot that the user experience should help you get things done, and not merely eye candy and meaningless flash (beep-bop-boop). In short, the editor and WordPress more broadly have become focused on accomplishing single tasks rather than managing an ecosystem of draft, scheduled and published information. If I wanted a single task approach to generate a stream of information, I’d use Tumblr. But WordPress isn’t (nor should it be) Tumblr, so I just don’t understand the philosophical shift (or avoidance of the product difference).

    I’m all for staying current and improving design, but with the WordPress changes I find myself clicking three to four more links (and subsequent page loads) to get things done, and am frequently stuck down an editor and post rabbit hole with no logical way out other than starting at the top and drilling down again. So much for streamlining and improving usability…

    I hate to say it, but WordPress is starting to feel like the web from 2005 — lots of page loads and link hunting to accomplish the basics. In my view, the design team is focusing too much on the shiny aspects of the user experience, and not enough on the productivity requirements of its users as expressed through a productive (or counter-productive) user interface. Yes, the “old” WordPress had grown barnacles and became unwieldly, but instead of cleaning the hull it seems like Automattic has chosen to concentrate on repainting the deck chairs.

    Are the changes enough to drive people off the platform? Heavens no — I’ve personally experienced much worse with some of WordPress’ competitors. But like Google Chrome and bookmark management, I guess we’re just going to have to suck it up and live through another era of “what’s old to me is new to you” UX/UI design again until the team figures out what is important about the user experience — getting stuff done.

    #2403386

    eirenehogan
    Member

    Well said, cjkainz, you explain the shortcomings very well in IT terms. I hope they never take away the option to use the old editor. You asked if the faults of this new editor are enough to stop us using WordPress. I have loved WordPress, but I am so frustrated with this new editor that I am considering leaving. If they do take away the option to use the old editor I will be seriously pushed to leave. And I would strongly suspect it would put off any new users.

    #2403387

    The only problem for me is that I cannot find how to invite people to give the feedback before I publish my post. So 1 vote for old one

    #2403388

    timethief
    Member

    I do not use it at all. I use the classic editor only. You cannot deactivate the new Beep Beep Boop editor but you do not have to use it. For locating the ways and means of accessing the legacy or classic pages for creating posts, editing posts, and viewing stats see here > Navigating the Classic WordPress.COM interface http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/2015/04/05/navigating-the-classic-wordpress-com-interface/

    On the dashboard of your own blog at
    Dashboard > Posts > All Posts > Add New is where to create posts in the classic editor. If you have cookies enabled on your browser your preference will be saved unless or until your clear your cookies, and it will take you to the classic editor automatically every time you create a new post via the drop-down menu in the black admin bar or edit a post via the edit button on the blog itself.

    You cannot deactivate the new Beep Beep Boop editor but you do not have to use it. For locating the ways and means of accessing the legacy or classic pages for creating posts, editing posts, and viewing stats see here > Navigating the Classic WordPress.COM interface http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/2015/04/05/navigating-the-classic-wordpress-com-interface/

    Mar 18, 2015, 10:29 AM
    The Classic Editor will continue to exist in wp-admin. We know some users prefer to use this editor, so we want you to have access to it, instead of phasing it out with the new version of the Dashboard. However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor. https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/when-editing-an-old-post-how-do-i-switch-to-the-classic-editor?replies=5

    Features that won’t be included in the new editor
    Post Revisions
    Copy a Post
    Link back to wp-admin
    Read more here https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/please-reinstate-the-option-of-choice-to-use-the-old-publishing-format/page/32?replies=942#post-2338964

    #2403389

    timethief
    Member

    Oops! I accidentally posted that link twice above – sorry. :(

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