Using adsense in the blog post
For what it’s worth, here’s my two cents on all of this. I and most others didn’t start blogging for profit. When I started at Blogger, I did it because I liked it. But then I started seeing and hearing how the same types of sites as mine were making alot of money from what started off to them as just a hobby. But when I started doing some research and learning more about ads, that’s when I had my little problem at Blogger and I left and came here. Then I found out we couldn’t have ads here. I could have left and gone some where else. But I rather have my sanity. :) And I always hoped that one day ads could be allowed here.
If ads aren’t allowed here, then that’s up to the administrators since it’s their company. But what I have a problem with are with people that look down at sites that do have ads. If you love your site so much, then wouldn’t you want to see it grow? And wouldn’t you also love to quit your day job and blog full time if these ads could give you a living wage where you can actually make a good living from? I know many bloggers that have paid for college and others that have quit their jobs and are now blogging full time. And working mothers that can now stay home and blog full time.
I know my blog is silly and not important and border line stupid. But many people out there seem to like it and also like the other same types of entertainment sites that are similiar to mine. I never knew we could make money from having a blog. But since I do now know that we can, I want to one day see if I can make some sort of a living off of this since I already do spend money for my blog.
I would like to be able to use adsence. But I do not want wordpress to put adds on my blog. Like bravehost does to their blogs so they can make more money.
Gotta admit that I’m a bit concerned about that as well but that’s not how I read Matt’s post on WP.com
In reference to the links about canvas for wordpress that I cited above yesterday I forgot to credit the blogger at http://swindonua.wordpress.com/ who gave me the lead [she said with a redface].
I’m surprised that folks haven’t remarked on this interesting way of creating your own customized website without hacking code or compromising security. What do others think of the “canvas” customization?
Could be problems with the licensing. The Canvas licence isn’t GPL and specifies no commercial use, so they could be in the weird position of allowing free users access to its features and denying them to paid users.
Of course, there’s nothing to stop Automattic stealing the idea and coding up their own version. After all, Canvas is really just an extended form of widgets.
WOAH! girl there’s so much for me to learn and a lot of it seems to be from the dark side, if you know what I mean. No commercial use, eh? Well then ripping it off would be unethical, right? But anything goes in the bolgosphere, right? Woah! my head is spinning I’ve got to lay down – I mean really I do. ;)
-Timethief: don’t understand a single technical thing you wrote. Do get: judgemental undertone/’mommy-ness’ of the whole thing. What is it to you: if OTHER people put ads on their blogs? Really: why do you care? Why do you take THAT to be a reflection, somehow, of you/whatever you, anybody else does? You are, obviously, emotionally connected to WP, but you don’t recognize: you don’t have control over other people, what others do. If you did: you would not be Posting complaint about running into blogs used for exploitation of women –porn, without a ‘heads up’ notice before clicking on them. Let it go.
-Matt (or was it Podz?): You Posted, somewhere, ‘blogging is too personal to post for money.’ Of the things I’ve read: that is the Most absurd thing of all. Are YOU putting time in at WP –until a mechanics job opens at a local garage? Or do you work here cuz it matters to you? If it matters: do you sleep on the ground? Or: do you expect to earn at least enough to provide for yourself? Your attitude: has a LOT in common with movies producers, fond of spending gobs of time figuring out how they can get scripts –for free. (Ever heard of: “just write a treatment on spec and we’ll pay you on the back end when the script is sold”?)
Earning money Writing which gets relevant contextual ads –“demeans” the writing??? If someone loves waiting table in high-end restaurant –they are ‘reduced’ by getting paid for it? Or does your ‘logic’ only run to the “arts”? Too bad Van Gogh can’t give you an earful, what it means to care passionately, work hard –NOT earn money from it. Anyway
you already blew big holes in that “argument” when you justified “write a book, OK to advertise it on WP.”
You allow huge corporations to have blogs on WP –for FREE? If so: why? Magazine, airline, etc. Don’t hope/expect to turn readers of those blogs into cash-money buyers??? WP ISN’T making money from those?
So far: you don’t have solid leg to stand on. Care to try again?
Note: WHY can’t I see right side of THIS window, but could see it in another???
Actually, no, Automattic isn’t making any money from any large corporations stupid enough to have blogs on wordpress.com. (Put it this way — if you’re blogging on a free host with a stock template, you don’t look particularly professional. It probably does your public profile more damage than not blogging at all.)
They are making money out of large corporations hosting WP on their own servers by giving them the option of paying for support, but that’s a) completely unconnected to the topic of this thread and b) only fair. I wouldn’t mind seeing commercial enterprises charged for their use of the software, but of course the GPL doesn’t allow that.
Also: timethief never said that nobody should have ads, just that free users shouldn’t. Whether paid users decide to display ads or not will be up to them. You are arguing that we should be allowed to make money off wp.com without having to give any back. What on earth would Automattic gain by letting people do that, other than an influx of splogs?
There is nothing wrong with trying to make money from your blog…IF you want to and IF you can do it. It is hard work and demands a lot. And there are different ways of doing it. You would probably be hosting your blog yourself though because you would need total control. Good site to check is: http://www.problogger.net/
The BlogHer conference underway at San Jose has a session devoted to making money through blogging.
(1) wank has done an excellent job of clarifying my position above.
(2) A splogger only has blogs for the purpose of collecting advertising revenue. If Matt opens the door to advertising on free blogs then he will in essence be throwing the WordPress doors open wide to sploggers.
(3) At this point in time listed as the top post for wordpress is pornotube – you tube for hard. The blogger (a teenager) who has posted the link to pornotube in his blog has been getting thousands and thousands of “readers” for weeks now. Well suppose he was collecting advertising revenue for each click into his “free” blog to view his valuable “content”. How would you feel about that?
Any splogger could set up a blog with nothing but links to porno and ads as “content”. Is that what we want to cultivate in the WordPress community?
Britgirl said “It is hard work and demands a lot.”
Sign up for Adsense and stick it in your sidebar. Contextual advertising looks after itself.
TT: Point 3 – Oh god, please no! It’s such a shame that pornography is still the biggest thing on the ‘net. There’s so much more there than just porn if people would just open their eyes! This could lead into a whole separate debate, one not suitable for this thread (or possibly even wp.com at all!)
Automattic isn’t making any money from any large corporations
They may not be here but they’re pushing the Corporate uses of Akismet. :)
Cornell said: “Sign up for Adsense and stick it in your sidebar. Contextual advertising looks after itself.”
Go blog hopping through myspace, live journal, yahoo, blogger etc. and what do you find? The vast majority of what is being posted it is recyled material gained from the news, or from other bloggers, or it’s “tat”.
With all sploggers and some professional bloggers too the means of making a significant amount of money is having numerous accounts in numerous bloghosting locations.
I understand where both you and Cornell are coming from. Your point is that If you want to make a significant amount of money on blogging then you would have to work hard to have valuable and original content and to attract readers.
Cornell’s point is that it matters not whether you have valuable or orginal content, there is no skill involved in advertising on your blog. You simply put ads into your sidebar there’s no work involved. People posting tat will do this for pennies while deluding themselves that the big money is just around the corner.
There are also people who are paid to do nothing other than clicking in and out of blogs featuring advertising on them.
My point is that there are sploggers who slap ads in their sidebars and just post nothing but tat or porno and get paid for doing so. They run multiple blogs through multiple bloghosts and they tend to both attract spammers.
Matt has made the point that because we have not had advertising on WordPress many blogs have become known for their outstanding original content. So whatever course of action he takes he would like to ensure that “content” remains king and WordPress is not over-run by sploggers and their spammer buddies.
@ cornell – you have said: TT: Point 3 – Oh god, please no! It’s such a shame that pornography is still the biggest thing on the ‘net. There’s so much more there than just porn if people would just open their eyes! This could lead into a whole separate debate, one not suitable for this thread (or possibly even wp.com at all!)
Well I do happen to think this is suitable for discussion on WordPress and I have blogged about it http://coyotes.wordpress.com/2006/07/29/porno-blogs-fuel-the-global-sex-trade/
I want porno blogs eliminated from being considered in the selection for the “top postings”, “fastest growing blogs” and “best blogs of the day” categories and I will not accept NO for an answer.
Porn/adult blogs are taken off those lists when seen. I think that porn tube thing was one story on that guy’s blog. Or is his entire blog porn? But if it was porn/adult, then it wouldn’t even be on the list anymore.
TT – I know where Cornell was coming from and he misses the point. I’m aware of what’s out there and I know what goes on. He’s talking about advertising – I was not simply talking about advertising. Of course I know there is no skill to slapping an ad on a page and having people click it. To whomever made the point about content not mattering in as far as making money blogging – I disagree. Probably best for those who think content doesn’t matter should talk with those who, while they also use ads, know and have proved that actually, it does.
Britgril – You’re right, I did miss the point. It took your statement quite literally and replied.
I agree, the content does matter. Mainly because if the content is crap then people aren’t gonna read it anyway! Unless it’s porn of course. But then, does ANYBODY in this discussion actually click the advertising on other sites? My guess would probably be “no”. The people in this discussion run their own blogs and have more than just a little knowledge about how to find what they want without having to click on an advert.
For my part when I see “Ads by Goooooooooooooooooooooooogle” I generally run in the other direction without even looking at the content of the ad box. Why do they put so many letters in there anyway???
I may be playing a little thick this morning so if I have still missed the point of your “It is hard work and demands a lot.” then please can you explain it to me in words of one syllable?
Simple: it requires no skill or talent whatsoever to slap ads on your blog. To build up enough traffic to get significant revenue from your blog, however, requires either a knack for self-publicity or a steady stream of decent content. Preferably both, though the former is more important.
Sploggers make money through having dozens of duplicate sites. Individual ones make peanuts, but it all adds up. That said, splogs probably make more on ads than normal blogs do, because people find them through Google, do not find the information they want, then click on an ad link in the hope of gettting somewhere more useful.
Thanks Wank! :)
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