What is “obscene”?

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  • #59150

    samureye
    Member

    Isn’t this objective? In the tos for this site we can’t post obscene stuff, but how far is too far? And what happens if you cross that “line”? Are you warned first or what?

    #59575

    timethief
    Member

    Perhaps you’d like to enter a dialog with staff about this policy issue. We don’t discuss policy issues on the support forum. The feedback button is on the top right hand corner of any of your blog pages. Thanks, in advance, for your cooperation.

    #59577

    samureye
    Member

    Fair enough, I understand, but what are some guidelines, if any? I’m just asking, not intending to start a KKK blog or anything! Just found the tos (or the part I read) was somewhat vague. I guess feedback button it is!

    #59579

    drmike
    Member

    Would you show it to your grandmother in law?

    #59583

    samureye
    Member

    But that’s beside the point – isn’t there some stuff you’d want to keep from some people? Is this discussing though?

    #59588

    trent
    Member

    You have to send in feedback for this to be answered to your satisfaction because no one here can answer this for you, sorry! ;)

    Trent

    #59589

    drmike
    Member

    We really try to stay out of the more in depth policy questions. None of us really should be answering them as none of us are Automattic employees.

    We used to but it just seems to provoke much misunderstanding among the folks here.

    Regards,
    -drmike

    #59595

    mark
    Staff

    Make some PRIVATE posts that are typical of what you will be posting.
    I say private because there will be people here clicking to see then getting all offended and sending in reports which isn’t then fair on you.

    I imagine we’d probably say the content is Mature and as such any tags used will not feature in any listings on the domain, nor will the blog feature in any top lists.

    And thanks for asking first – that is excellent :)

    #59598

    samureye
    Member

    Wait, if I put a post as private then I alone will be able to see it? I don’t want that. Can’t I tag something as mature and be safe, maybe? I dunno, just spitballing here.

    #59601

    raincoaster
    Member

    No, he’s saying post an example so staff can look at it and give you feedback. Mature content is allowed (although it will put your blog in the Mature category and take it off the Tag and Top Blog, Top Post pages) but obscene content is NOT allowed. Staff need to look at what you have in mind to make the call, because they won’t come out and make a hard-and-fast rule.

    #59604

    nosysnoop
    Member

    Lots of things are looked as “obscene”. It’s on the eye of the beholder. Just as long as it’s not child porn, violent porn, and stuff like that, then it won’t go against the TOS.

    #59614

    samureye
    Member

    No, not pornographic material or anything, but let’s look at this blog here: http://karalina.wordpress.com/

    Seems sort of mature to me. I would want people to find the blog, so it would be sort of a bummer if it wouldn’t come up in tag searches, but rules are rules.

    #59625

    timethief
    Member

    Dialog is meaningless considering that Mark has given this blogger specific instructions on this policy matter. And I’m at all clear as to how this link posting in any way assists samureye with the determination that staff has to make specific to his own blog.

    #59671

    drmike
    Member

    Gotta admit that I don’t even know if I myself would call that mature. Granted it’s adult material but I’ve read worse stuff in my high school library. Although I can see why the issue is being raised.

    The matter really should be discussed between you and staff. As Mark suggested, put up a couple dummy posts marked as private and send in the URLs for them into staff via feedback. If they’re marked as private, they won’t show up within the tag system nor on your blog.

    #59692

    samureye
    Member

    Timethief, are you always such a wet blanket?
    Oh and I think I made the owner of the blog I mentioned angry, just so she knows, i just drew and example and that was the only blog of that type that I read. :-/

    #59693

    samureye
    Member

    oh an thanks for the help, drmike

    #59697

    timethief
    Member

    @samureye
    (1) I hope you have followed Mark’s instructions, although I note you have not said you have done so https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=7884&replies=17#post-52977
    (2) I hope you aren’t under the illusion that the support forum is a chat venue because that’s not what it’s for.
    (3) These are Mark’s observations about Mature Blogs
    (4) If you would like to comment to Mark directly on his observations that can be done in one of three way. The first is to leave a comment on his blog and the other two ways are found in this thread https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=7672&replies=11
    (5) Although your blog shows not evidence of this yet, I hope in the future you will put as much energy into blogging as you have been into posting to the forum.

    #59698

    samureye
    Member

    1) I’m asking to be informed, so I have no reason to do this. You won’t really find anything like that on my blog.

    2) Nope, but we’re people, not untrained monkeys (avatar aside).

    Thanks for the help, I understand this is quite an issue, one that is not really discussed here and we need to get feedback, but there’s no harm in asking. Thanks for the help, no reason you can’t help and smile :)

    #59701

    timethief
    Member

    The internet provides a wealth of information backed by case law. Here’s an example: The Legal Definition of Obscene

    Oh… and you’re welcome. :)

    #59705

    samureye
    Member

    But this is “private” property so to speak, so it’s WordPress that makes the shots. I’m not American so that link doesn’t apply to me, sorry! Remember, the internet isn’t America. People forget that.

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