When should I move my blog & commercialise?

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  • #103978

    mark
    Staff

    They offer text links and you are allowed a single text link within your sidebar here at wp.com so you can use them here at wp.com to get you started

    That’s a text link ad. That is not allowed.

    From the faq:

    A discrete link to your business or a site you are associated with in the sidebar or an About page is permitted.
    
    A discrete link to Amazon or similar in the context of a post is okay,

    The above does not allow text link ads.

    #103979

    raincoaster
    Member

    If you don’t specifically define “a site you are associated with” to exclude sites you are PAID to associate with, it’s still open. Maybe you want to tweak that definition (also, it’s “discreet”).

    #103982

    timethief
    Member

    @mark and raincoaster
    In the UK the use of “a discrete link” means one and only one link.
    Discrete (UK) = Constituting a separate and individual thing.

    In North America, Australia and New Zealand “a discreet link” means one and only one modest and unobtrusive link.
    Discreet = Free from ostentation or pretension; modest.

    If this section is to be re-worded and suggest that it ought to be, then Mark must determine whether or not he means “one and only one link” which would allow for a banner that takes up a whole sidebar.

    Or if he actually means “one and only one modest and unobtrusive link” which would not allow a banner that takes up a whole sidebar.

    #103983

    mark
    Staff

    I will amend the faq.

    #103984

    mark
    Staff

    Clarified.

    Raincoaster – thanks :)

    #103985

    drmike
    Member

    That’s a text link ad. That is not allowed.

    Really? Then why was it deemed acceptable when I asked you if I could place one such link on my own blogs? And this is the definination we’ve been giving folks now for months. *sigh*

    #103987

    mark
    Staff

    I have just seen that link – if you would forward the email conversation to me?

    #103989

    timethief
    Member

    @drmike
    I believe you and Mark are referring to two different things. I think Mark is saying “no” to this http://www.text-link-ads.com/ but he is not saying “no” to this type of link.

    @mark – Am I correct?

    #103990

    drmike
    Member

    7k+ emails in my inbox. Let me go find it.

    #103993

    raincoaster
    Member

    TT, I know what discrete means; it means as opposed to subsumed in a larger whole. As all of our links are discrete (unless they are poorly formatted and inoperative) I don’t believe this is what the writer of the TOS was referring to.

    #103994

    timethief
    Member

    @raincoaster
    /nodding and moving on
    I understand the point you made and I am in agreement with the need for clarity with regard to the financial benefit aspect.

    If you don’t specifically define “a site you are associated with” to exclude sites you are PAID to associate with, it’s still open.

    #103997

    engtech
    Member

    text-link-ads is a service for selling advertising space on blogs. You can’t even use it on wordpress.com because it needs backend access.

    To answer the first post, if you get around 8k-10k hits per day with occasional spikes of 16k then commercializing might be worth it.

    Commercializing is hard, hard work though. Even the people who devote a lot of time and energy into learning about it and making it into the Technorati top 500 only do around $3k / month.

    My blog does around 4500-6000 hits daily, and has a Technorati rank of 1800. When I was looking into whether it was worth the time to “go pro”, it looked like I could make something like $200 a month off of text-link-ads, didn’t really look at what I could make off of Google, etc… I decided it wasn’t worth the effort to move the blog, and spend all that time figuring out advertising schemes.

    #103999

    raincoaster
    Member

    I just found out that Gawker also runs job ads: at $25 per placement, good till the application deadline. The professional association I’m with charges $75 for two weeks on its mailing list, and it has a monopoly on the field in this part of the country.

    #104000

    drmike
    Member

    Still looking for the email. Didn’t think it would be an issue although I did ask to make sure.

    #104013

    wank
    Member

    Most ad providers, as engtech says, are going to need some sort of tracking code which would make them impossible to place on wordpress.com blogs anyway. If people were to manually insert paid links into their blogrolls or text widgets, though, I don’t see how you’re supposed to tell the difference between that and a normal link that hasn’t been paid for.

    So in order for this policy to mean anything, I’d assume that blogs could get deleted just for linking somewhere that looks spammy, or having a link that doesn’t ‘fit’ with the rest of the site.

    #104015

    raincoaster
    Member

    FYI: The original question is a little moot at this point since twelve hours ago he posted about problems exporting his WordPress.com blog to a WordPress.org one.

    #104017

    mark
    Staff

    @wank – we are not that harsh. We do try hard not to penalise genuine mistakes because we know they happen.

    #104044

    tigerplug
    Member

    God Bless GMail!

    #104063

    nosysnoop
    Member

    To answer the first post, if you get around 8k-10k hits per day with occasional spikes of 16k then commercializing might be worth it.

    ~cries~

    #104388

    atticusgalt
    Member

    tigerplug: engtech hit the nail on the head that problogging is hard work. However, you’re asking the right questions because the work starts with your switch from WP.com. Once you do so, plenty of monetization options become possible and some require your blog to be a certain age — so the sooner the better.

    One such example I’ve invested in is PayPerPost ( http://www.payperpost.com/ ) that requires a blog age of 3+ months. Multiple PPP bloggers earn $500+ in sponsorships per month for blogging at their own blogs (actually, the current top 10 have earned $585-$790 in just the first half of June) — plenty to cover the cost of domain/hosting and you select the sponsors, not GOOG.

    All that said, focus on quality, selectivity and relevance first, and the earnings will come.

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    NOTE: Payperpost is not permitted here at wordpress.com. Your blog will be suspended if you use it. So please don’t – Mark

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