Why did the gallery image titles recently stop being displayed?

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  • #1490427

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Image titles in my galleries used to display as tooltips, or when hovering over them with the cursor. A noticed a couple of days ago that this was no longer happening. I’m unaware of any change that I might have made to prevent them from displaying. I definitely want all of the image titles in of my gallery images to display.

    Tooltips are still displaying on images embedded in posts and pages.

    I’m also less than pleased that the image URL is displayed at the bottom of the page when hovering over an image, whether the image be in a gallery or embedded in a post or page.

    The blog I need help with is songbook1.wordpress.com.

    #1490706

    gayechapman
    Member

    Hello musicdoc, and hopefully WordPress savvy readers,

    To add my voice to this: I have the exact same problem.
    Image titles in my galleries used to display as tooltips when hovering over them with the cursor. A noticed a couple of days ago that this was no longer happening. I’m unaware of any change that I might have made to prevent them from displaying. I definitely want all of the image titles in of my gallery images to display as tooltips too.

    Tooltips are still displaying on images embedded in my pages.

    I know about “advanced image settings” title = tooltip, BUT have tried this out on a private “test page” and tooltips for gallery still not working.

    theme is Reddle. Free wordpress.com.

    the blog I need help with is http://gayechapman.wordpress.com/work/

    regards Gaye

    #1490713

    musicdoc1
    Member

    gayechapman,

    Thanks for confirming that the issue is not local. It is apparently affecting every image in every gallery on all of my many WordPress sites. I’ll probably engage WordPress support directly through email in the next couple of days if there continues to be no response from support of staff. It’s already been a week.

    #1490714

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    Two quick questions:
    1. What browser version are you using?
    2. Which type of Gallery style are you using?

    My own experience:
    1. Chrome 30 and Firefox 24
    2. In this post the title/tool tip only displays on single images and images used in a tiled Gallery. The default thumbnail Gallery does not display the title/tool tip.

    This thread has been marked for Staff input, so we’ll have to wait for their reply.

    #1490720

    jackiedana
    Member

    I’ve tested the galleries and it appears that tooltips do not appear for the thumbnail grid option, but do appear in tiled mosaic, square and circle galleries.

    I’m going to look into this further and will let you know if I find anything out.

    #1490722

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Thanks, jackiedana,

    I presently use only thumbnail grid style galleries, sometimes combining them with slide shows of the same images on the same post or page. Tried tiled mosaic months ago. Wasn’t aware of the other options.

    This is a very recent issue. The tooltip titles disappeared from the grid style gallery images on or around 19 October.

    #1490723

    musicdoc1
    Member

    The WordPress Gallery support page seems to indicate that there are three types of tile galleries, namely rectangular, square, and circle. Are these three types of mosaic or is mosaic another style? I don’t think any of these options will be appropriate for my purposes, but I may try them out.

    #1490724

    jackiedana
    Member

    It looks like the tooltips were removed from the thumbnail galleries on October 21st, and the tooltips will be disappearing in time from the other galleries as well.

    Removing tooltips from images has been happening slowly already, as evidenced by this forums thread:
    https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-media-upgrade-has-major-flaws-wordpress-support-please?replies=76

    #1490726

    jackiedana
    Member

    To explain this a bit more, we used feedback from the WordPress Make.org Accessibility group who told us that tool tips can make sites less accessible for visitors with disabilities (particularly those who rely upon screen readers).

    #1490727

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    @jackiedana-Thanks for the reminder about that.

    #1490728

    gayechapman
    Member

    Thanks, jackiedana, and everyone,

    Since WordPress are removing tooltips across the board, what
    visible result – if any – in relation to my images does the “Alt” Title option provide please?

    PS: My Gallery image files (1500 x 1500) appear stretched in “Attachment Page” now (whereas a few months ago fine). The simple solution for me is they open fine in “Media File” (I dont like WP carousel ) but Media File offers no title details.

    [I am trying to avoid reloading/retitling/resizing downwards all the sites images].

    SO; the Tooltips would have been a simple solution for identifying thumbnails in the Gallery.

    Any suggestions please – beyond reloading everything, as WP not a good pic editor.
    Example here:
    http://gayechapman.wordpress.com/work/rubus-fruticosis-blackberry-decompose-series/
    Thankyou for any help.

    Gaye

    #1490729

    jackiedana
    Member

    The alt title is what screen readers, Google, and people with images turned off in their browser (or using text-based browsers) will see. Alt tags are very important for accessibility as well as to improve your SEO. They are not visible to regular visitors, however.

    #1490730

    musicdoc1
    Member

    I’ve sometimes use captions to provide information regarding gallery images. For some, captions might provide a reasonable alternative to tooltip titles, but with the WordPress theme I’ve been using for the past couple of years (no others seem suitable) the displayed text of a gallery image caption is in an unattractive large italic. A WP support person pointed out a workaround a year or so ago, but it failed when I tried it.

    #1490731

    musicdoc1
    Member

    jackiedana,

    “To explain this a bit more, we used feedback from the WordPress Make.org Accessibility group who told us that tool tips can make sites less accessible for visitors with disabilities (particularly those who rely upon screen readers).”

    I’m sure most of us empathize with users and visitors with disabilities. I have a nephew who has been blind since birth who has always relied on screen readers. But is it necessary and wise to require the majority forfeit a useful feature in order to accomodate the few? Stairs and ladders aren’t very practical for those confined to wheel chairs, yet we haven’t abandoned the construction and use of steps, staircases, and ladders.

    Why not make the use of tooltips optional? Display them (or not) by default, with a means of switching to the alternative available to all.

    #1490732

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    @musicdoc1-the default thumbnail gallery, which you use, will force the caption to appear below the thumbnail image. If you use either the tiled mosaic or square Gallery options, the captions will appear on top of the image when mouse-overed.

    You can seem them in action on the Gallery support doc here http://en.support.wordpress.com/images/gallery/#examples-of-gallery-styles

    Note that the Circle type will not display captions.

    #1490733

    jackiedana
    Member

    @ musicdoc1, I appreciate your sentiments, but we aim to make everything accessible to the broadest number of people. Sometimes that means changing or removing certain features. I do apologize for any inconvenience this has presented for you.

    #1490734

    gayechapman
    Member

    Thankyou Musicdoc1; jackiedana and all,
    Bowing out tooltip aspect of forum now. RE Tooltips: I agree totally with Musicdoc1: why not simply make tooltips optional and captions on “Attachment Pages” etc. in editable font sizes.
    Will start a new topic soon re: WP theme’s stated optimum image sizes versus the reality of seeing the image stretch in “Attachment Pages” regardless of the browser. ( have checked on many browsers so they is not the issue).
    best regards
    Gaye

    #1490735

    musicdoc1
    Member

    Odd that WordPress appears to be trying to impel us to use certain styles of gallery (rectangular or square tiled) in order to retain features we’ve been accustomed to.

    #1490736

    justjennifer
    Moderator

    @musicdoc1 with all due respect, no one is impelling you to do anything. I suggested an option available to you. Whether you use it or not is up to you.

    #1490737

    musicdoc1
    Member

    justjennifer,

    I appreciate your suggestion, and my comment was not a response to yours. So there’s no need to feel offended. I’m merely raising the following question to WordPress (not to you): Why is it that the gallery tooltip feature is suddenly only available on some styles of gallery and not on what must be by far the most often used one.

    We could go into what I don’t like about each of the other options. I’m sure I’m not alone in preferring the standard gallery for most uses. The other options were available a year or so ago. I found them unsatisfactory then for the same reasons I do now.

    1. Rectangular: Some images are apparently arbitrarily chosen to be larger than others, sometimes much larger. They might not be images I want to feature so prominently. You can modify the size of images in the default or “thumbnail” gallery with the following size options: medium, large, full (and thumbnail), without having to deal with random resizing of your images by some mysterious process.

    2. Square: This is a horrible alternative. It cuts out a small square from the image. One one gallery I just now tested it cut off the heads and upper torsos of figures in portrait images, leaving midsections and legs.

    3. Circle — Another option introducing crude cropping of your carefully chosen images. Not a very enticing offer.

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