Why has WP destroyed my hit count with the Topics Reader?

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  • #886441

    6bender
    Member

    Geesh Nick, give it up. No matter how well you say the new format SHOULD work, NOBODY likes it or wants it anyway. So while you guys behind the scenes are patting each other on the back and copping a “too bad for you” attitude, the bloggers, who drive WP, are unhappy and are just supposed to get over it?

    I have been sad to see my viewership drop since the change and have assumed it was due to the recent change from topics to reader. I have been having a hard time with the “wait there’s more” message also but mainly when I am trying to find my latest posts which I never seem to be able to find, I only had this problem a few times prior to the switch. I do need to make a post thanking my followers for continuing to be so loyal but I do miss the newbie viewers.

    I just did a post thanking my subscribers because I’m not seeing any new visitors since the change. I used to get new subscribers and visitors with almost every post now I get none. Nothing, Nada. Zilch. Crickets chirping. And in turn, I am not discovering any new blogs because the reader is so irritating. Scrolling is clumsy and slow for browsing new content. It’s just too awkward.

    #886442

    jackelliott1
    Member

    I’m not sure what good it does in expressing an opinion around here, as this place isn’t a democracy.

    But this new infinite scroll reader change for tags and topics is unbelievably inefficient and not user friendly at all. It’s so, so bad I don’t even use it. I used to spend a lot of time browsing for new blogs and content on the old tags board. I stopped doing that entirely due to the new system being so cumbersome.

    Some people here have said that traffic was not driven by the old system, but that seems like an odd claim considering how many people, myself included, have experienced a dramatic decline in hits while at the same time saying how much they hate the change and are not using it.

    #886447

    My hit count’s down too – I’m fairly new to WP (a year and a bit) and loved it to begin with, but seeing my numbers going into decline just as I was building up a decent hit-rate is really discouraging. I’m definitely thinking of jumping ship.

    #886448

    jackelliott1
    Member

    Regarding that screencast. . .yeah, the reader looks just like that on my machine. Is that really how it is supposed to function? It’s a total nightmare! Rather than scanning with eyes over an entire screen full of blog posts and choosing within seconds which ones to click on, now we have to manually scroll choppily through one post after another, one at a time, laboriously on down the list. If we want to take a second look at a post we scrolled past, then we have to manually scroll back up the list looking for it rather than just glance with eyes. I appreciate that WP is constantly trying to refine their system to provide a better experience, but it’s a terrible change.

    #886450

    The new reader is very buggy too, I did what I was told, put less than 10 tags, and the reader still didn’t display my blog. I don’t get what is going on. It is so confusing and so many people using wordpress blogs and looking for alternatives, what is WP going to do about it.

    #886452

    markjwallis
    Member

    All I can say is that a lot of requests were made for a Like button on the home page, and on everything. Timethief would regularly insist that Like buttons were unnecessary on the Home page and so we wouldn’t be getting them. Shortly after that, they appeared where we wanted them and revolutionised the WordPress experience.

    This was a prime example of listening to the WP community and responding accordingly.

    ‘The customer is always right’ isn’t really up for discussion.

    It better be Beta, guys…

    #886458

    WP needs to go back to the old viewer…period. You can follow all of their rules about posting, content, proper and limited use of tags, etc and your post still doesn’t show up. I started using WP in January because of it’s simplicity and ability to create traffic to my blog but all that is gone now. I really hope WP listens to the feedback on this issue and works this out or goes back to the old system.

    #886459

    timethief
    Member

    @markjwallis
    You have spoken wrongly and I’m not impressed with your trolling. I had nothing whatsoever to do with the change to location of the “like” button” and you are making up nonsensical connections where none exist. Previously, there were some themes that did not display like buttons on the front pages doe to how they were coded despite this:

    Troubleshooting
    If you are having trouble showing the sharing buttons on your blog, please check the following:
    I can’t see the buttons on the front page.
    Make sure to select “Front Page, Archive Pages, and Search Results” for “Show buttons on” setting. http://en.support.wordpress.com/sharing/#troubleshooting

    #886460

    metan1
    Member

    WP are also assuming that every country using this worldwide platform has access to the same fast internet speeds to load the constant scrolling. I wish!

    I used to have a look at Topics every day, now I can’t even get the reader to load. The only way I am getting new blogs to look at now is to look at the Gravatars of people who have commented on other blogs I like.

    #886461

    timethief
    Member

    @metan1
    If you log out of WordPress.com then you can access the Topcs (global tags) pages.
    Example: Log out and try putting this in your upper browser bar and then clicking http://wordpress.com/tags/history/

    #886462

    Point is the majority of users will not log out to view new posts (or even know they can) in the old viewer. This also does not address why posts are not appearing in the new viewer once published.

    #886463

    timethief
    Member

    @thenicolniche
    That’s true. Staff have clearly stated they are not going to reverse this decision at this time https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/why-has-wp-destroyed-my-hit-count-with-the-topics-reader/page/2?replies=51#post-884514 As I am a solution orientated person I thought I would share what I did above with metan1 in this thread as take it or leave it information.

    #886464

    markjwallis
    Member

    @timethief.

    I’m not trolling but you were adamant in several posts that the Like button would not be modified, and you implied that there would be no consultation or discussion on the matter. That wasn’t an attack on you but an observation of your posts which still exist. I was also merely observing that after your posts on the subject, the Like button was changed. My point, as if I need to reiterate was that things can be changed to suit the user, even after we’ve been told they can’t. So there is hope.

    I’m sorry you had to take this as a personal attack. And please don’t accuse me of trolling, thanks.

    #886465

    markjwallis
    Member

    @timethief.

    I’m not trolling but you were adamant in several posts that the Like button would not be modified, and you implied that there would be no consultation or discussion on the matter. That wasn’t an attack on you but an observation of your posts which still exist. I was also merely observing that after your posts on the subject, the Like button was changed. My point, as if I need to reiterate was that things can be changed to suit the user, even after we’ve been told they can’t. So there is hope.

    I’m sorry you had to take this as a personal attack. And please don’t accuse me of trolling, thanks.

    #886466

    timethief
    Member

    @markjwallis
    On topic comments that are not personal in nature are in line. Any others that are off topic and personal are not in line.

    Are you sure that each and every one of the over 190 free themes and premium themes in the Themes Showcase can accomodate the display of sharing buttons and like buttons on their front pages at this point in time? No, you are not so please stick to the issue in this thread.

    Staff have clearly stated:

    We have no plans to change it back at this time.
    https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/why-has-wp-destroyed-my-hit-count-with-the-topics-reader/page/2?replies=54#post-884514

    You find that hopeful and I don’t. Enough said. I removed the flagging an hope you will not come at me again.

    #886468

    I changed from blogger to WordPress because I liked the community aspect of it, but now that is disappearing. My stats are down by over a 100 a day.

    I don’t find the reader works at all. Sometimes I have a lot of trouble loading the reader, it doesn’t work properly, and I know WP are having problems with it and working on them, but by the time they are fixed most people will have stopped using it.

    I have had times when I scroll down, then another blog is loaded and it takes me back up to the top and I have to do the scrolling all over again.

    I don’t understand a company that doesn’t listen to its viewers. Do I need to go back to my old blog at blogspot, I will end up with the same number of hits that I do here, surely. It is so silly.

    #886469

    metan1
    Member

    Thanks timethief, I’ll give it a try.

    #886470

    timethief
    Member

    @metan1
    I was trying to help you make the best of a bad situation. You’re welcome.

    #886472

    I guess those of us who persist in commenting on this live in hope despite nickmomrik’s comment. Because maybe at some point, someone will actually appreciate that scrolling down is a bad experience to scanning across thumbnails.

    I have a couple of other questions:

    1) If this is meant to be the brilliant interface of the future (which, just in case no-one has got the message, it is NOT), why is freshly pressed still in the old format? Not that I ever looked at it, and I am wondering if anyone else did/does?

    2) How about all those people who actually like the change say why they like it? That would be really interesting.

    PS, my random hits are still down, and I can’t be bothered to look at topics any more either.

    I think our happy engineers are confusing hits and readership. Regular readership comes from like-minded souls. Sure google sends lots of hits, but they rarely stay or comment. My most popular blog on blogger attracted loads and loads of hits – did they comment or stay? No. That’s what I want and that’s what this crazy change has affected.

    #886478

    shortformed
    Member

    I too detest the new reader. Does anybody know of any other websites that had layouts similar to the old topics page? I would like to return to browsing blogs in a user-friendly way.

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