WP.com not WP.org – Part 2

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  • #314626

    devblog
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    It’s very likely that this will get, let’s say for the lack of a better word, brushed off (like the original thread) by staff. Nonetheless, I’m starting this new thread with a possible solution to the ongoing “issue” of having .org users posting their questions here.

    I believe that one of the reasons why the WordPress people haven’t done anything about this issue is because, us volunteers, keep answering, or better said, redirecting them to the right forum. It’s like they were thinking:

    Oh, it’s alright if we take our sweet time addressing this issue; the volunteers are taking care of sending them to the right place for us.

    Or something around those lines. Sure, I may be mistaken about this, but that’s the impression I get from their lack of attention to this.

    A lot of .org users are posting their questions here and nothing is being done about it. Well, here’s a possible solution which I believe it’d be simple enough to implement. Check I made and click on “Register” (the other fields and button won’t work).

    If the user is not logged in, he/she would see such announcement that would clarify things for that person right away. By the way, the links in the nag screen do work.

    But what if the person instead of going directly to the forums, goes to WordPress.com (home page) and clicks the “Sign Up now” button, creates an account only (no blog), and then goes to the forums? Well, since the user is already logged in, the system should check if a cookie (let’s call it: wp_hasBlogg) exists; if it doesn’t exist, then query the database and check if there’s a blog associated with that username. If there’s no blog associated with that username, then a similar announcement (like when you click on Register) should appear with a slight different text… instead of reading:

    Before you register, make sure you DO have a wordpress.com blog…

    It could read something like this:

    Our system tells us that you don’t have a blog registered under this username. Perhaps you have a self-hosted blog?…

    Or something like that.

    If the user does have a wp.com blog associated with that username, the cookie “wp_hasBlogg” should be created, its value could be “yes” or “no” depending on the results of the query (because they might have an account only for the stats feature). Obviously, if the user has a wp.com blog, no announcement/warning/nag (or however you wanna call it) screen would be displayed, and he/she would be taken to the forums with no more delay.

    Okay, but what if the user logges out? Well, when they enter their username and password either form wordpress home page, forums or their blogs the “wp_hasBlogg” cookie should be checked. If it exists check for the expected values, if it doesn’t create it with the corresponding value, and take it from there.

    If for some reason the user, who does not have a wp.com blog, goes back to the wp.com forums, logs in to post his/her question, the system after checking the value “wp_hasBlogg” cookie equals to “no”, instead of showing the “nag” screen, it could automatically redirect the user to the appropriate forum.

    This is a very raw idea which could be polished nicely to make it work in the most efficient way. So… I put it on the table for them to pick it up, if they wish.

    (I’ll leave the mockup up for some time, then I’ll take it down)

    #314799

    devblog
    Member

    Darn, I hate it when I forget to close an opening tag…

    Here’s the link to the mockup

    #314800

    aw1923
    Member

    Something like this has been suggested before, apparently a year ago and nothing has been done. I feel like I’m enabling wordpress staffers “non-doing-nothing-ness” about this issue by redirecting wordpress.ORG users to the appropriate forum. I for one will not be doing this anymore…after today X(
    Maybe since your suggestion is more detailed they might consider it though.

    #314834

    Many thanks for this, devblog – I sure hope it doesn’t get brushed off!

    #314844

    devblog
    Member

    I didn’t know that something like this was already suggested, aw1923. I must admit, though, that I haven’t read all the posts in that thread.

    Thank you, panaghiotisadam. Hopefully it won’t… but time will tell.

    #314848

    aw1923
    Member

    More like something to the effect of this was suggested, not exactly…you have obviously thought this through more, LOL. I was thinking that maybe the problem is the title of the sticky thread. Maybe if there was a sticky thread called “YOU MIGHT NOT BE IN THE RIGHT FORUM” in like flashing huge letters then that would also help. Who knows, people rarely read these days, including me…I refuse to read about ecology so I watch videos about ecology hoping I learn something before next semester starts…hey, maybe wordpress should have some sort of audio voice, like that wordpress guy with the sexy voice that does the FAQ videos.

    #314853

    vivianpaige
    Member

    Not re-directing .ORG users sounds like a plan. Another alternative – modlook every one of the threads, in addition to marking them as WP.org. That way, staff can answer them.

    #314862

    teck07
    Member

    That’s Devblog for your detail suggestion

    I for one will not direct .org users to the correct forum starting today
    after reading the possibility of staff not implementing a solution.

    @vivian,
    Great idea I’m going to start giving the modlook tag to all new
    .org questions so staff can see how many we get here at .com

    #314863

    teck07
    Member

    Oops

    That's Devblog for your detail suggestion

    Is sup post to read
    Thanks Devblog for your detail suggestion

    #314864

    wesleysoccer
    Member

    Dido

    #314878

    devblog
    Member

    Thanks, teck.

    I too think that marking the threads as modlook and wp.org is a good idea.

    #314879

    I really don’t think they have a clue how many we have to redirect each day, and the last few days it seems to have gotten worse.

    I’m on board for the modlook and wp.org.

    #314907

    Me too.

    #314910

    vivianpaige
    Member

    So just to reiterate: no links to the proper forum, and tag with modlook and WP.org (BTW – they can see how many posts there are that are from .ORG users – just take a look at the size of the WP.org tag in the tag cloud. And that’s just the ones we have identified!)

    #314912

    Yes or no to pointing at the “8 Things” sticky?

    #314913

    On the posts where we have to ask to determine if they are .COM or .ORG, and they come back and give a link to a .ORG blog, do we at that point just ignore them and modlook and wp.org tag it? In other words, in a bulk of the cases we have to ask to determine where they are and ignoring them after asking sort of rubs my fur the wrong way.

    I’m not sure where I’m going here, but perhaps you can get what I’m saying.

    #314915

    @tsp: Good point. In that case I suggest we simply respond with something like this:

    There’s a sticky up top that says “8 Things To Know BEFORE Posting”.

    #314916

    One other thought, they might when they review the threads and answer the OP, remove both the modlook and the wp.org tag, so we might find the wp.org tag ends up with few in it.

    #314917

    Finishing my thought: It would not be the first time evidence has gone missing.

    #314918

    I would also suggest that if other members continue to give the org link, we give them the link to this thread.

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